Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

delw wrote: »

Won't be sorry when this is over & done with,sick to death hearing about it at this stage

To ensure you never have to hear about this again, vote Yes! And that will be the end of it.

sup_dude wrote: »

As much as I was defending Donegal earlier in the thread (probably the last thread), now that I'm back home, I would nearly put money on a No vote

There will be silent Yes voters too.

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Don't be too sure, lots of people around me are home to vote and they're ass yessers :cool:

I think the slight majority are Yes voters but the No vote will ultimately win out here.

It will be a very sad day for Ireland if this gay marriage thing comes in. A large chunk of society is on a downward curve not knowing the difference between right and wrong anymore. Men having seX with men, women with women, absolute bonkers. We're living in a messed up world and worse it's getting. Where does the insanity end?

Not a NSA agent wrote: »

If you had a vote on giving every person in Donegal 1000 euro they would still vote no.

Donegal is majorly FF/SF with a chip in their shoulder constantly about the current govt especially so I'd imagine there's a big protest No up there, much more so than other parts where the recovery has taken hold. I hope I'm wrong by the way...

MathDebater wrote: »

Because we have a huge diaspora and very generous citizenship by descent laws. Six million people are entitled to an Irish passport through descent in the UK alone. I don't have the figures for the US and Canada but I'd imagine it's at least a couple of million there too.

I'd agree. Would be vehemently opposed to giving voting rights to those who have never lived/paid tax in the country. However I see no problem for those who are temporarily away, like on a J1/Oz Visa or those who have recently moved away, say in the past 18-24 months.

VinLieger wrote: »

There is an issue with how many people can claim Irish citizenship abroad and that fact that it dwarfs the actual population of Ireland by many multiples. Unlimited expat voting will not work but yes it should be possible however with timed limits like maybe 5-7 years

But loads of other countries allow this without issue. If there are that many Irish citizens living overseas, all the more reason to allow them to vote and have a say in facilitating change that may encourage them to come back. With all the talk of people being forced to immigrate because there are no jobs/prospects etc. A lot of these people may want to come home when the conditions are right. Why should they be denied a say in how the country is run? I think it's a really awful attitude for a country to have toward its citizens, particularly if many of those citizens feel they were forced out in the first place.

road_high wrote: »

Donegal is majorly FF/SF with a chip in their shoulder constantly about the current govt especially so I'd imagine there's a big protest No up there, much more so than other parts where the recovery has taken hold. I hope I'm wrong by the way...

The people I've been talking to aren't doing it for a protest vote but it could just be my area.

gk5000 wrote: »

Yes shall be like a recurring nightmare, coming back to haunt everybody every few months - mini versions of this referendum as every new family/marriage/children's law or courtcase comes along.

Remember this is Shatter's legal mess, and we can see how smart he is.

This needs to be done right - once, and this is not been done right.
It's going to piss off alot of people and its going to keep recurring.

Vote NO to send it back to the drawing board.

How can you bring equal rights for same sex couples back to the drawing board?

hotmail.com wrote: »

How can you bring equal rights for same sex couples back to the drawing board?

By making them less equal apparently. Tenner bets his suggestion will have a 'different but the same' vibe to it.

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

But loads of other countries allow this without issue. If there are that many Irish citizens living overseas, all the more reason to allow them to vote and have a say in facilitating change that may encourage them to come back. With all the talk of people being forced to immigrate because there are no jobs/prospects etc. A lot of these people may want to come home when the conditions are right. Why should they be denied a say in how the country is run? I think it's a really awful attitude for a country to have toward its citizens, particularly if many of those citizens feel they were forced out in the first place.

Here's a crazy example of Irish citizenship, 2 people emigrated to America in say the 1940's they had children and their children had children who are now 18, these grandchildren of emigrants who have never set foot in ireland or ever intend to can claim Irish citizenship and unless we are very careful with foreign voting, a vote as well. Can you honestly tell me that makes sense that someone who has never lived here and never intends to live her should have a say in how the country is run?

One thing that really pushes me to vote "Yes" is when I look at the mothers and fathers matter Facebook page and I see the comments written by people with children. A lot of them say being gay is a choice, abnormal, there going to indoctrinate there children with the truth, the list goes on.
I honesty feel so sorry for these children growing up listening to comments like this and the effect it has on there mental health. People often write back to them "I hope your kids turn out gay" I wouldn't wish this on them tough. I'd actually pray for there children to be happy and themselves without the fear of rejection from there parents.
Sorry for the soppy post.

Happy marriage referendum eve everyone!