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Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

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  • #902
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Slicemeister wrote: »
    Reported. An apology would've sufficed.

    It would have, Fidelma. When will you apologise for your comments on life being full of suffering?


  • #903
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,051 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    Maybe it's an exception but over the weekend I polled 3 of my friends who would be fairly socially conscious and all 3 said they were voting No. I was shocked. This vote will be tight!
    Did you ask them why they were voting no? I'm very concerned that a lot of the no votes are based on the false misdirections of the No side. They're using powerful imagery and, if you don't know the actual truth, it could sway people.


  • #904
    Zen65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    traprunner wrote: »
    What's that got to do with the price of spuds?

    The price of spuds will fall if this referendum is passed.

    The LGBT crowd don't eat spuds, only pasta and wheatgerm. The fall in demand will drive down the price of the humble spud and farmers will go out of business.

    Ahem! Apologies, but I was curious to experience what it must be like for NO campaigners who like to grasp at straws. Not tarring all NO voters with the one brush of course, but some!!
    Please disregard this post before voting


  • #905
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    Slicemeister wrote: »
    Just a genuine question. Will SSM couples discriminate against each other down the line? I didn't rob ye at gunpoint jaysus.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with the referendum just like the price of spuds.

    There will be a mothers and fathers day as long as it is profitable for greeting card companies. That's a commercial thing, nothing to do with sexual orientation, marriage or spuds!


  • #906
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    Slicemeister wrote: »
    Just a genuine question. Will SSM couples discriminate against each other down the line? I didn't rob ye at gunpoint jaysus.
    No? Why would they? If a bi woman wants to marry another woman the change to the constitution by the referendum will allow that. Same as if a transsexual wants to marry a person of the same sex (I'm not quite sure if the law will take their original gender or their chosen one) it will be covered by this referendum.


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  • #907
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    floggg wrote: »
    Sure Fidelma, sure

    (See here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057397564)

    If it is Fidelma then surely she should be doing something we pay her for....work...:pac:


  • #908
    Baggy Trousers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Baggy Trousers


    ixoy wrote: »
    Did you ask them why they were voting no? I'm very concerned that a lot of the no votes are based on the false misdirections of the No side. They're using powerful imagery and, if you don't know the actual truth, it could sway people.

    Yeah it was all confusing and tangental arguments around adoption and how children need a mother and father.
    These 3 were in 30s and 40s.


  • #909
    GCU Flexible Demeanour
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭GCU Flexible Demeanour


    sunshine and showers wrote: »
    GSU, I have contested your point - you ignored me.
    In case you haven't noticed, I've been answering many posters saying much the same thing. Perhaps I should explain again, I don't have staff.
    sunshine and showers wrote: »
    The age requirements for marriage have nothing to do with this referendum
    Yes it does. It's one of the "160 differences" listed on the marriage equality website. The right to marry of under 17 years olds will automatically extend on foot of a Yes vote.
    sunshine and showers wrote: »
    Further, under 17s (which is really only 16 year old in this context) require parental consent to marry.
    There is no requirement for parental consent to marriage in Ireland, regardless of the age of marriage.
    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Do you advocate withholding marriage from all people because some (11) under 17s wish to marry?
    I did answer you question fairly. You didn't answer mine at all.


  • #910
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    traprunner wrote: »
    What's that got to do with the price of spuds?

    Voting Yes will allow more weddings, increasing demand for mash or roast (or a bit of both) with the beef or salmon, hence increasing overall demand and driving up the price of potatoes.

    Vote No for cheaper spuds!


  • #911
    Slicemeister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    traprunner wrote: »
    It has absolutely nothing to do with the referendum just like the price of spuds.

    There will be a mothers and fathers day as long as it is profitable for greeting card companies. That's a commercial thing, nothing to do with sexual orientation, marriage or spuds!

    Thank you! Yeah, it's actually a job well done on me to say it started out as a commercial venture first day.


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  • #912
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,051 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    Yeah it was all confusing and tangental arguments around adoption and how children need a mother and father.
    Did you challenge them on it? For example, adoption will be in place regardless so they shouldn't be voting on that. I think a very large number of people are unaware of it and how a constitutional change will strengthen these families that are going to arise.


  • #913
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    Voting Yes will allow more weddings, increasing demand for mash or roast (or a bit of both) with the beef or salmon, hence increasing demand and driving up the price of potatoes.

    Vote No for cheaper spuds!

    Haha I hope the Iona doesn't read this, they might actually use that slogan.


  • #914
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    Slicemeister wrote: »
    Thank you! Yeah, it's actually a job well done on me to say it started out as a commercial venture first day.

    While it wasn't commercial at first it is now. Do mothers day and fathers day have standing in law?


  • #915
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    Voting Yes will allow more weddings, increasing demand for mash or roast (or a bit of both) with the beef or salmon, hence increasing overall demand and driving up the price of potatoes.

    Vote No for cheaper spuds!

    If there's more weddings, we should vote YES FOR JOBS surely.


  • #916
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,265 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    MonkeyTennis wrote: »
    What madness is this?

    Its a proposal to allow marriage to be contracted between two persons without distinction as to their sex.


  • #917
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Its a proposal to allow marriage to be contracted between two persons without distinction as to their sex.

    That wording annoys me so I might have to change to a No vote.

    Surely it should be 'without distinction as to their gender'.


    :p


  • #918
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I personally know more people who are voting No than Yes and quite a lot who just won't be voting. Many of whom were convinced from a Yes because of John Waters and his talk about children, step-parents stealing them if the gays get married and appending Article 41 like it's going to turn Ireland into a Mad Max-wasteland.

    Will be a very tight result, I imagine.


  • #919
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    I personally know more people who are voting No than Yes and quite a lot who just won't be voting. Many of whom were convinced from a Yes because of John Waters and his talk about children, step-parents stealing them if the gays get married and appending Article 41 like it's going to turn Ireland into a Mad Max-wasteland.

    Will be a very tight result, I imagine.

    Who could possibly be convinced by that charlatan? It sickens me that we lack a proper tough interviewer in this country. The media are far too incestuous.


  • #920
    floggg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭floggg


    Slicemeister wrote: »
    Reported. An apology would've sufficed.

    That's what was said to Fidelma...


  • #921
    gazzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭gazzer


    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    Maybe it's an exception but over the weekend I polled 3 of my friends who would be fairly socially conscious and all 3 said they were voting No. I was shocked. This vote will be tight!

    I was at a family gathering at the weekend and a discussion about the referendum came up while we were sitting around having a few drinks. Ages in this discussion ranged from 30 to 75 (about 10 people) and they ALL said they were voting Yes. I was delighted.


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  • #922
    floggg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭floggg


    Zen65 wrote: »
    The price of spuds will fall if this referendum is passed.

    The LGBT crowd don't eat spuds, only pasta and wheatgerm. The fall in demand will drive down the price of the humble spud and farmers will go out of business.

    Ahem! Apologies, but I was curious to experience what it must be like for NO campaigners who like to grasp at straws. Not tarring all NO voters with the one brush of course, but some!!
    Please disregard this post before voting

    Em, no carbs at all. At least not until after Pride hot pants season.


  • #923
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    I personally know more people who are voting No than Yes and quite a lot who just won't be voting. Many of whom were convinced from a Yes because of John Waters and his talk about children, step-parents stealing them if the gays get married and appending Article 41 like it's going to turn Ireland into a Mad Max-wasteland.

    Will be a very tight result.
    That's what I am worried about. I know a lot of people are hoping for a Yes victory but I am really hoping to see a resounding win for the Yes side. We would not only be the first country to allow same-sex marriage but we could also give it a resounding yes and show the world that Ireland is no longer the backwards country, ruled by the church, it once was. I am starting to realise I may not get that but lads, if people don't go out and vote and the No side wins it would be a shocking state of affairs.


  • #924
    floggg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭floggg


    traprunner wrote: »
    If it is Fidelma then surely she should be doing something we pay her for....work...:pac:

    She's a senator.

    So work isn't really in the job description.


  • #925
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    floggg wrote: »
    She's a senator.

    So work isn't really in the job description.

    Mean...

    Somedays they have to make the tea for the other Senators, its a rota.


  • #926
    Hyzepher
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    A few things the NO side should remember

    1. Every child HAS a mother and father. There is no way of creating life without both a man and a woman.
    2. Children will not be taken from their own mother and father and given to couples in SSM.
    3. Surrogacy is not a SSM concept.
    4. Adoption of children - across the board for both heterosexuals and homosexuals - is carried out where the child's mother and father are no longer around or can no longer care for the child. So children up for adoption have effectively no mother and father present regardless of who adopts them.
    5. There is only one new family type that will be introduced if a Yes vote wins - a married homosexual couple. All other types exist today. A good percentage already function without both parents present or in the case of adoption, neither of the biological parents present.

    The negative impact on children due to this referendum - in real life situations - will be nil. For the most part a Yes vote will increase the security and well being of children as they will now have more rights than before.


  • #927
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,266 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I don't think John Waters or the no campaign have convinced anyone, the debate has been lame from both sides, the political party's pushing for a yes are doing so very limply, I don't believe Enda Kenny has changed his mind in the slightest or most of the ff and fg supporters. It's not pc to hold a different view which is the sad thing about this vote. People can't voice their true concerns.
    The T in lgbt is also a big elephant in the corner, I'd say even amoung their own group there aware of this as if it got traction a lot of people would have serious reservations of opening marriage to them. Panty has been very low key for such a vocal supporter, not sure what way he's inclined but him popping out in drag looking for a yes vote on telly would have a lot of people scratching their heads.


  • #928
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Slicemeister wrote: »
    Wonder will Mothers Day or Fathers Day be a thing of the past in years to come?

    Only if Hallmark get out of the Greeting Card business :rolleyes:


  • #929
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Who could possibly be convinced by that charlatan? It sickens me that we lack a proper tough interviewer in this country. The media are far too incestuous.

    When Waters was on tele he was very impassioned and pointed his finger a lot, sadly some people are drawn in by these very simple expressions without ever considering the content of what's being said = basically that they shouldn't support equal opportunities.


  • #930
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,051 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    You'd think any gay couple getting married gets a free baby to adopt the way it's portrayed rather than the rigorous control they will actually take place.


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  • #931
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    ixoy wrote: »
    You'd think any gay couple getting married gets a free baby to adopt the way it's portrayed rather than the rigorous control they will actually take place.

    You mean they dont????!!!!???

    Vote Yes for Free Babies!!


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