PGA Tour Thread

vienne86 · 04-05-2015 09:01AM

Willett is up from 49 to 38 in the world rankings - good man - like that guy.

rrpc · 04-05-2015 09:33AM

vienne86 wrote: »

Willett is up from 49 to 38 in the world rankings - good man - like that guy.

Seems like a nice guy and always has plenty of time for the interviews. He really should have beaten Woodland but I suspect tiredness got to him.

Woodland lost it completely trying to compete with Rory in the driving stakes. He kept fading it into the 'Woodland'

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He calmed down a bit when Rory went 4 up but it was too late for him.

I get the feeling that Rory was making a "Jordan who?" statement the way he played. The best sportspeople always rise to a challenge and boy did he rise to the one Spieth put down at Augusta.

Rikand · 04-05-2015 10:06AM

Yep. Rory is almost 4 full ranking points ahead again

rrpc · 04-05-2015 10:25AM

Did anyone notice how Furyk was trying every trick in the book to upset Rory? Apart from using his shorter tee shots as an advantage by being first on the green, I think it was on the 16th tee, he spent an absolute age faffing about with his yardage book and his tee before taking his shot knowing that Rory likes to play quickly.

It was fascinating to watch.

Seve OB · 04-05-2015 10:26AM

He came out in top which was all that was needed, but Rory was far from his best this week. A mixed 7 rounds on the green, missed an awful lot of makeables, But sank some moonrakers. Now I didn't see it all so I stand to be corrected on this, but IMO it was quite probably the worst I have seen him drive the ball in ages. It would be easier to count the fairways he hit then how many he missed!
Having said that, it is the sign of a really great player when you see them coming out on top while not firing on all cylinders. It was what made Tiger what he was.

PARlance · 04-05-2015 10:53AM

rrpc wrote: »

Did anyone notice how Furyk was trying every trick in the book to upset Rory? Apart from using his shorter tee shots as an advantage by being first on the green, I think it was on the 16th tee, he spent an absolute age faffing about with his yardage book and his tee before taking his shot knowing that Rory likes to play quickly.

It was fascinating to watch.

I think he's just that slow normally, it's just that we don't get to see it as the TV guys never cut to him until he's about to hit in regular events. Experience.

He gets a free pass due to his staus in the game. A bit like Paddy in fairness. Matchplay aside, those two are just incredibly slow players. But it's easier to look to the young guys on tour when highlighting it... Or give a 14 year old a penalty at the Masters.

rrpc · 04-05-2015 11:10AM

Seve OB wrote: »

He came out in top which was all that was needed, but Rory was far from his best this week. A mixed 7 rounds on the green, missed an awful lot of makeables, But sank some moonrakers. Now I didn't see it all so I stand to be corrected on this, but IMO it was quite probably the worst I have seen him drive the ball in ages. It would be easier to count the fairways he hit then how many he missed!
Having said that, it is the sign of a really great player when you see them coming out on top while not firing on all cylinders. It was what made Tiger what he was.

I think that course is quite tough, especially on the front nine. But if you look at his scorecards for the week (and to be fair, he played a lot of golf), it went something like this:

Round 1: -1 after 14
Round 2: -4 after 18
Round 3: -3 after 18 (-3/20)
Round of 16: -6 after 13
1/4 Final: -3 after 18 (-4/22)
Semi Final: -5 after 18
Final: -1 after 16

He played 121 holes for a net score of -23. His last four rounds was -15 for 69 holes. Not a bad score when taken in the context of stroke play and in two of those four rounds he didn't play 17 and eighteen where he scored -5 out of the eight times he played them.

On the other side of the coin, he had two bogeys in his first 5 rounds, doubled that total by the end of the semi and doubled it again in the final. Clearly fatigue was an issue at that stage.

rrpc · 04-05-2015 11:18AM

PARlance wrote: »

I think he's just that slow normally, it's just that we don't get to see it as the TV guys never cut to him until he's about to hit in regular events. Experience.

He gets a free pass due to his staus in the game. A bit like Paddy in fairness. Matchplay aside, those two are just incredibly slow players. But it's easier to look to the young guys on tour when highlighting it... Or give a 14 year old a penalty at the Masters.

I know he's slow, but the semi was the first time that we got a full picture of it because they had nothing else to flip to whilst the faffage was in full flow. I mentioned that particular instance because it was abnormally slow to the point of hilarity. He was minutes at the back of the tee with the notebook and caddy, eventually put the tee in the ground and placed the ball, then swept away numerous loose bits of microscopic impedimentia, stood up behind the ball, addressed it, stepped back behind it again, addressed it again, took a practice swing, felt something underfoot, removed tee and ball, replaced them slightly further back, swept away all the dust and broken grass again, stood back behind the ball, addressed it again, took a practice swing, checked the flag position, looked down, looked up, looked down and then eventually hit it.

I think I took less time to write all that then it took Jim to take that shot. :rolleyes:

It was sooooo slow, that I felt it was gamesmanship to upset Rory. It didn't work

Old diesel · 04-05-2015 01:06PM

Seve OB wrote: »

He came out in top which was all that was needed, but Rory was far from his best this week. A mixed 7 rounds on the green, missed an awful lot of makeables, But sank some moonrakers. Now I didn't see it all so I stand to be corrected on this, but IMO it was quite probably the worst I have seen him drive the ball in ages. It would be easier to count the fairways he hit then how many he missed!
Having said that, it is the sign of a really great player when you see them coming out on top while not firing on all cylinders. It was what made Tiger what he was.

But that's a good sign surely - that he performed at "far from his best" but still won.

I didn't see him - apart from one shot RTE showed - but assuming what you say is correct - that "he was far from his best" - he will be able to go back now and continue working on his game - and see how he can do even better

SSK · 05-05-2015 01:04AM

Seve OB wrote: »

He came out in top which was all that was needed, but Rory was far from his best this week. A mixed 7 rounds on the green, missed an awful lot of makeables, But sank some moonrakers. Now I didn't see it all so I stand to be corrected on this, but IMO it was quite probably the worst I have seen him drive the ball in ages. It would be easier to count the fairways he hit then how many he missed!
Having said that, it is the sign of a really great player when you see them coming out on top while not firing on all cylinders. It was what made Tiger what he was.

Aside from a couple of poor shots on the final back 9 - which one could possibly attribute to fatigue - his short game was absolutely supreme and was the winning of the tournament in the end. Allied with some great putting under pressure, I think we saw Rory win different this week which makes it a very impressive victory. His short irons definitely need some work if he is to contend at Sawgrass this week.

vienne86 · 05-05-2015 09:01AM

I think it is the sgn of greatness for any sports person or team if they can grind out a win when they are not playing at their best.

First Up · 05-05-2015 09:29AM

vienne86 wrote: »

I think it is the sgn of greatness for any sports person or team if they can grind out a win when they are not playing at their best.

Its a factor, but the real test of greatness is achievement over time. Producing under pressure is also a measure but I am hesitant about using "cameo moments" simply because almost everyone has them at some point.

sky88 · 05-05-2015 10:30AM

Dont know why but ive never found matchplay interesting to watch outside of the team events

Wombatman · 05-05-2015 12:36PM

Nobody should be through to the last 16 after the first two days. Drama killer. In the case of a tie in the group stages, the guy who played the fewest holes in won matches, over the three days should go through.

First Up · 05-05-2015 01:32PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Nobody should be through to the last 16 after the first two days. Drama killer. In the case of a tie in the group stages, the guy who played the fewest holes in won matches, over the three days should go through.

With 32 matches, there's plenty of drama, even with a few dead rubbers. Head to head is the logical and fairest tie breaker.

The 3 days round robin is a bit tedious but going to California for potdntially one round of golf was obviously not popular with the players - nor or I suspect the broadcasters.

rrpc · 05-05-2015 02:06PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Nobody should be through to the last 16 after the first two days. Drama killer. In the case of a tie in the group stages, the guy who played the fewest holes in won matches, over the three days should go through.

Is that you Jordan?

Wombatman · 05-05-2015 02:39PM

rrpc wrote: »

Is that you Jordan?

If a few of the groups three golfers were going out with nothing to play for on the Friday. Very hard to give a sh1t in this case. With the format change Isuggested the majority of golfers will go out with something to play for on the Friday.

You could tell the commentators were embarrassed by the poor format when it came to a tie. Groups with players already through were useless for TV on the Friday.

The way Lowry played, he deserved a chance to go through on the Friday.

First Up · 05-05-2015 02:43PM

Wombatman wrote: »

If a few of the groups three golfers were going out with nothing to play for on the Friday. Very hard to give a sh1t in this case. With the format change Isuggested the majority of golfers will go out with something to play for on the Friday.

You could tell the commentators were embarrassed by the poor format when it came to a tie. Groups with players already through were useless for TV on the Friday.

The way Lowry played, he deserved a chance to go through on the Friday.

They were playing for money and ranking points, same as every week.

Wombatman · 05-05-2015 02:46PM

First Up wrote: »

They were playing for money and ranking points, same as every week.

Not the same. Your money and points are never capped going out on the Friday.

First Up · 05-05-2015 03:07PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Not the same. Your money and points are never capped going out on the Friday.

There was an extra $22,000 to play for on the Friday - and if he had won he would still be in the top 50.

SSK · 06-05-2015 12:57AM

vienne86 wrote: »

I think it is the sgn of greatness for any sports person or team if they can grind out a win when they are not playing at their best.

This type of statement is thrown around a lot and in principle I agree but I'm not sure how relevant it is this week. Rory only had to be better than his opponent in each match and I think it's probably fair to say that if it was a regular 4 round strokeplay event he wouldn't have won.

Like I said before, i think the way in which he won, relying heavily on his short game, was the most impressive thing, moreso than the actual fact that he won while playing mediocre by his standards.

rrpc · 06-05-2015 07:46AM

SSK wrote: »

This type of statement is thrown around a lot and in principle I agree but I'm not sure how relevant it is this week. Rory only had to be better than his opponent in each match and I think it's probably fair to say that if it was a regular 4 round strokeplay event he wouldn't have won.

For his last four rounds he was -15 for 69 holes. Extended to 72 holes it would have been in or around -16 or -17. That's a pretty good score for what was a tough enough course. When you factor in that he played 7 rounds in 5 days, it's pretty impressive.

I'm not bored enough to see what others shot but since only four got to play 7 rounds, it would be a futile exercise.

Seve OB · 07-05-2015 02:46PM

Does anyone know how to get rid of that stupid annoying grey see through advertising banner on the bottom of the pgatour website, mostly comes up on the leaderboard page.

Synode · 07-05-2015 02:47PM

I can't see anything. Post a picture.

I probably can't see it because I use Adblock Plus

Seve OB · 07-05-2015 02:53PM

Synode wrote: »

I can't see anything. Post a picture.

I probably can't see it because I use Adblock Plus

Synode · 07-05-2015 02:58PM

Doesn't show on my screen at all. Try installing Adblock Plus

Seve OB · 07-05-2015 03:00PM

Synode wrote: »

Doesn't show on my screen at all. Try installing Adblock Plus

cheers, will look for that. it comes up on pc in work, mac at home, & i use all the different browsers, always there.. annoying me!

FixdePitchmark · 14-05-2015 10:39PM

Didn't know much about him.

SO here you go - actually a bit of character there - For a golfer.

Well except Jim Furyk answer

Ed Winchester · 15-05-2015 01:16AM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Didn't know much about him.

SO here you go - actually a bit of character there - For a golfer.

Well except Jim Furyk answer

Sharon Stone moment in the first few seconds :eek:

Rikand · 15-05-2015 12:50PM

what a great guy

Need him to come play the Irish open, lose the playoff and then go on the beer with him for the rest of the night

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