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Legend - starring Tom Hardy as both Kray Twins

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,233 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Bronson and now Kray twins, well done Tom Hardy very impressive bold choices, interestingly Brian Helgeland is writer and director

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,529 ✭✭✭weemcd


    This looks superb. Serious man crush on Hardy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    I absolutely love Tom Hardy, he is so gorgeous, its unbelievable and such a brillant actor, everyone should go see his latest film child 44, brillant performance from Tom again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Looks interesting. Coincidently tonight I've just watched the 1990 Kemp brothers film. It focused more on the impact of the Kray's career on those around them, particularly the women in their lives, which was a novel approach compared to many gangster films before & since. It certainly didn't allow the viewer to think there was any glamour about the Kray universe. There's a lot that the new film could deal with from a different perspective, particularly looking at the trial & prison life of the pair, which is something the 1990 film almost completely left out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    Looking forward to this. Tom Hardy hasn't been in a bad film yet. Watched The Drop over the weekend, great movie. Pity about poor Tony Soprano.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Watched the trailer and got a sense of Goodfellas from it - looks the dogs though ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Dee24


    BrookieD wrote: »
    Watched the trailer and got a sense of Goodfellas from it - looks the dogs though ;-)

    Yes I totally got that vibe from it too. Cannot wait. I love tom hardy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Gwynplaine wrote: »
    Tom Hardy hasn't been in a bad film yet.

    Star Trek Nemesis says hello.

    Hardy has been in more ****e/semi-ok/meh movies than he's been in good movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Have my ticket booked for next Thursday - can't wait!

    The trailers look great and if Hardy's performances in Bronson and Locke are anything to go by, I'm expecting something very special.

    I know it's not officially released until next week, but has anyone come across any early reviews yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 832 ✭✭✭HamsterFace


    Yeah looking forward to this. Hardy is intriguing but has been in a lot of movies I haven't really liked also, hope to enjoy this!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Ya cant wait to see this, Love Tom Hardy, absolutely gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Was just reading about the krays today on Wikipedia, One of the brothers had a one night stand with Barbara Windsor(Peggy from Eastenders).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭darragh o meara


    fin12 wrote: »
    Ya cant wait to see this, Love Tom Hardy, absolutely gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Was just reading about the krays today on Wikipedia, One of the brothers had a one night stand with Barbara Windsor(Peggy from Eastenders).

    So that's where Phil gets it from :)

    Looking forward to seeing this too, trailer looks decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    So that's where Phil gets it from :)

    Looking forward to seeing this too, trailer looks decent.

    hahha ya :):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Have my ticket booked for next Thursday - can't wait!

    The trailers look great and if Hardy's performances in Bronson and Locke are anything to go by, I'm expecting something very special.

    I know it's not officially released until next week, but has anyone come across any early reviews yet?

    There's a review in the Dailymail online today, Headline is Tom Hardy delivers a double whammy but his film's too soft on the kray's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 sb213


    This looks very good, big fan of Tom, but i want to see some diversity from Him... All recent characters are quite similar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Looks good but have a feeling it will make the Krays out to be superstars.

    Was listening to an interview with the director on BBC Radio 4 (not actually in my sixties :P) and he just fawned over them, seemed in awe.

    By all accounts they were both horrible murderous b*stards so a bit of balance in the story would be nice.

    Will reserve judgement though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Shelga wrote: »
    Looks good but have a feeling it will make the Krays out to be superstars.

    Was listening to an interview with the director on BBC Radio 4 (not actually in my sixties :P) and he just fawned over them, seemed in awe.

    By all accounts they were both horrible murderous b*stards so a bit of balance in the story would be nice.

    Will reserve judgement though!

    I guess many gangster films could be accused of the same thing in fairness. Goodfellas, Scarface etc. all tended towards showing the sort of glamorous life being a violent wrong 'un could afford you. Viewers were rooting for Henry Hill and Tony Montana.

    They always fall at the end though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    True, there's very few gangster films which end with the protagonist settling into a peaceful old age as a wealthy & respected pillar of the community. From the very earliest days of the genre it's always been made clear that the end of these people is almost always in a hail of bullets or a prison cell. The best of them of course are not simply about the career of some murderous thug like Dillinger, Mesrine or the Krays but manage to tell a story about the particular socio-economic & cultural context from which they emerge.

    What remains so enduring about the story of the Krays is the way in which they became a part of the "swinging sixties" culture, being photographed by David Bailey & hanging out with film stars, just as US gangsters enjoyed associating with Frank Sinatra. This is of course contrasted with the dirt-poor circumstances from which they rose in the East End.

    The rags to riches theme is one which has always attracted audiences, even if or perhaps because it's invariably shown to be a fleeting & superficial form of "riches" that gangsters attain. The ordinary person is both titilated by the vast wealth, sex & notoriety on offer & at the same time confirmed in their own moral righteousness by the ignominious end of the criminal.

    Anyway, definitely looking forward to checking this one out in the next couple of weeks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Ah sure isn't he only gaaaarjess.

    I'll take the spandau ballet pair over this any day. If I watch this I'll only end up comparing it to that original film. This looks too much like Goodfellas and I always find it a bit distracting when one actor is playing twins. Like those Linsay Lohan movies when she was a kid or that terrible one with Bette Midler from the '80s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Ah sure isn't he only gaaaarjess.

    I'll take the spandau ballet pair over this any day. If I watch this I'll only end up comparing it to that original film. This looks too much like Goodfellas and I always find it a bit distracting when one actor is playing twins. Like those Linsay Lohan movies when she was a kid or that terrible one with Bette Midler from the '80s.

    True and a dog lover.

    Is the spandau ballet version good, whats that called, never watched it?


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    fin12 wrote: »
    True and a dog lover.

    Is the spandau ballet version good, whats that called, never watched it?

    Pretty sure it's just called The Krays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ziggy23


    Just seen it tonight. I really liked it , it did drag on a little bit but Tom was excellent in both roles particularly Ronnie. Most of the cinema was in knots laughing every time Ronnie was on screen I never realised how much of a nutcase he really was!
    4 out of 5 for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Fortunate enough to be at the premiere of this in the Savoy tonight. Loved every minute of it and never felt the film dragging on at all.

    Thought it was an excellent portrayal of the Kray twins and gritty mobster life in London. I was absolutely enthralled.

    I will have to go see it again with the gf at some stage. Good thing too because I'm not sure if it was Hardy's accent for Ronnie Kray or the sound system in the Savoy but I definitely missed out on a few lines of dialogue every now and again.

    Could be down to the acting style but I'll need to see it again to be sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Shelga wrote: »
    Looks good but have a feeling it will make the Krays out to be superstars.

    Was listening to an interview with the director on BBC Radio 4 (not actually in my sixties :P) and he just fawned over them, seemed in awe.

    By all accounts they were both horrible murderous b*stards so a bit of balance in the story would be nice.

    Will reserve judgement though!

    Will probably check it out but read an interesting article recently, that they weren't that successful or powerful gangsters they just had an interest in fame and notoriety.
    If you look at what they actually did apart from meeting famous people via their clubs they were pretty small scale (at least they seem that way from a modern perspective).
    So curious but hope they don't lay on the "kings of London/Underworld" angle too hard
    Article here:
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/03/the-selling-of-the-krays-how-two-mediocre-criminals-created-their-own-legendlegends


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ziggy23


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Fortunate enough to be at the premiere of this in the Savoy tonight. Loved every minute of it and never felt the film dragging on at all.

    Thought it was an excellent portrayal of the Kray twins and gritty mobster life in London. I was absolutely enthralled.

    I will have to go see it again with the gf at some stage. Good thing too because I'm not sure if it was Hardy's accent for Ronnie Kray or the sound system in the Savoy but I definitely missed out on a few lines of dialogue every now and again.

    Could be down to the acting style but I'll need to see it again to be sure.

    Was at the same screening myself and noticed that too like Ronnie's voice was a bit mumbly in parts. Tom Hardy was excellent at portraying 2 completely different characters. Deffo worth a second viewing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,723 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    There is a bit of a buzz about the poster disguising The Guardian's two star review. :)
    Well played by the movie's marketing team.

    COaZeleUkAAxbYO.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    You guys should check out another flick called The rise of the krays.

    Was released this year straight to DVD but I thought it was a pretty unique take on the Kray twins. And yes in this one Ron is portrayed as a right headcase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    You guys should check out another flick called The rise of the krays.

    Was released this year straight to DVD but I thought it was a pretty unique take on the Kray twins. And yes in this one Ron is portrayed as a right headcase.

    Il prob check that out because I just watched the kemp brothers version a few days ago, not bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Saw it last night. Thought Tom Hardy was really excellent, played the two brothers so differently and portrayed more depth to Reggie than the script really provided.

    They did sort of glamorise them a bit but yeah, that's to be expected with the way they courted the media and were seen in the 60s.

    I thought the wife, Frances, was the weak link. I felt the film dragged when she was on screen and didn't buy the romance between them, although there was some chemistry there. She was so drippy and naive- 'delicate' was how they put it, but I kept rolling my eyes when she kept
    expecting Reggie to go straight for her.
    Maybe that's how it was in reality but just didn't warm to the character or feel very sorry for her :p

    Really entertaining movie though, much better than Man from U.N.C.L.E. which was the last one I saw.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Telecaster58


    With the exception of Hardy, there was nothing to really excite in this film. In truth it was a little tedious. We got no real insight into the Krays with the exception of Ronnie being portrayed, correctly, as a total fruitcake. There was no exposition as to how they get to where they did in crimeland and the portaryal of the cops was pretty one dimensional. A major disappointment


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