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How will you vote in the Marriage Equality referendum? Mod Note Post 1

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Maby to you, but an awful lot of people are taking this very seriously.

    Why do people say equality for all and then when it comes down to it they don't really mean equality for all at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    noway12345 wrote: »
    People going on and on about equality when they don't really mean it. It's madness.

    Oh I thought you meant people going on an on about the children to try to hide their homophobia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    MOD: noway12345 won't be trolling this thread any more so you don't have to reply to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,709 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    EDIT: Posted after Moderator note.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    Find it fascinating that those who supposedly have legitimate concerns in referendums implications for constitution never enter the legal forums discussion on subject... They really don't like being proven wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭VisibleGorilla


    I'll be voting yes.

    There is no sane logical reason to vote no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭SireOfSeth


    +1 Yes, for me too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,453 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Oh, I am so going to enjoy the nah nah ne nah nah threads when this referendum passes!

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Yawn, yeah, equality.Well, I'm more finding what I would have expected.

    All you need to say is "it's perfectly normal for children to be conceived within straight marriages", and you'll find you'll have a discussion on your hands.

    Some day, but not any time soon, we may have a political culture that isn't about covering up.

    I am finding it really difficult to understand your point , and can you answer me this time please .

    Am I correct in saying that the concerns you have will exist whether or not we never had this referendum or if it was defeated ?

    With the new legislation coming into effect in May and civil partnerships already a fact you concerns on adoption, surrogacy, etc, have already been over-ruled so to speak , is that correct ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    Such a tiny minority, such a big fuss.

    Disappointing you think that , 10% mightn't seem so small if one of your kids or brothers or sisters were in that group.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,947 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    endacl wrote: »
    Oh, I am so going to enjoy the nah nah ne nah nah threads when this referendum passes!

    :D

    that would be petty and childish. nobody here would do that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    well post the links then if they exist (i mean URLs not the poster called Links234. they might upset if you tried to post them )

    You seriously want me to spoon-feed you? I'm not talking about obscure websites here. Read the Times, Examiner, the Indo. More people than you may think don't share your views.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,947 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    You seriously want me to spoon-feed you? I'm not talking about obscure websites here. Read the Times, Examiner, the Indo. More people than you may think don't share your views.

    spoonfeed me a little. whats the harm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,453 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    Such a tiny minority, such a big fuss.

    Wasn't it some obscure Bronze Age carpenter who put it so eloquently,

    "Whatever you do to the least of my children..."?

    Others put more store in the dude then I would, but I always liked that quote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    spoonfeed me a little. whats the harm?

    Is that how the whole equality for the gays started?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,947 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    lazygal wrote: »
    Is that how the whole equality for the gays started?

    i have no idea what you are trying to get at. would you care to explain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Trudiha


    marienbad wrote: »
    Disappointing you think that , 10% mightn't seem so small if one of your kids or brothers or sisters were in that group.

    The numbers don't really matter. I've never met anyone who needed a kidney transplant but I carry a donor card because it would be ****ty to deprive someone of something they need, at no cost to me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    spoonfeed me a little. whats the harm?

    There was an article in today's Examiner

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/analysis/avoid-triumph-of-political-correctness-over-mother-nature-328052.html


    And this is an old one from the Times

    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/head-to-head-why-we-should-vote-against-the-same-sex-marriage-referendum-1.2100166

    It's not as straightforward as equality vs. procreation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,947 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




    i read the first one already. the second one is as bad.
    ‘Marriage requires the procreative element in order to grow and enrich human beings within nature. Nothing else will do’

    which frankly is a load of old tosh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Both of those are coming from the 'natural' angle, and while they're at least more honest than those muddying the waters with talk of children, they fall apart once you realise that a) Marriage isn't natural and b) Homosexuality is.

    Next.

    Homosexuality is natural??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,947 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Homosexuality is natural??


    it certainly isnt unnatural. and not unique to humans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Homosexuality is natural??

    Literally yes.

    It occurs in nature. Unlike marriage.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Homosexuality is natural??
    Do you think all homosexuals are just pretending?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,947 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Homosexuality is natural??

    or are you perhaps saying that it is not natural to you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Homosexuality is natural??
    Yes. You'd think that a Marine Biologist like Dr Samuel Shephard would know that.

    I love the way they say he's a "population ecologist" but decline to mention that he appears to specialise in fish populations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Homosexuality is natural??

    Did you think it was synthetic? The polyester of relationships?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    seamus wrote: »
    Do you think all homosexuals are just pretending?

    Many years ago I tried to pretend to be straight at a function to get my mother to shut up. After about an hour she asked me to stop as apparently I can't do 'feminine' but I rock camp.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Yes, as in observed in nature. Unless you're using some alternative definition of natural I'm not aware of?

    As nature intended. I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's not natural.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    As nature intended. I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's not natural.
    Except that it clearly is as nature intended.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    As nature intended. I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's not natural.
    1) 'Nature' doesn't intend anything
    2) If it occurs in nature it is de facto natural


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