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Terminator Genisys

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Lars Henrikson was initially in mind for the role. They even got so far as concept art. Ended up going with Arnie as they wanted the Terminator to be as imposing as possible even when incognito.

    Yeah I know, what I mean is by the logic of the mythology, making every T800 look like the exact same Austrian bodybuilder is a pretty stupid method of infiltration that would work exactly once, before the resistance simply open fire on every Arnie before he can say" hi fellow humans!". Grumbling about a terminator being Asian is just ... well, daft. First I've read of anyone mentioning it as a negative...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Yeah I know, what I mean is by the logic of the mythology, making every T800 look like the exact same Austrian bodybuilder is a pretty stupid method of infiltration that would work exactly once, before the resistance simply open fire on every Arnie before he can say" hi fellow humans!". Grumbling about a terminator being Asian is just ... well, daft. First I've read of anyone mentioning it as a negative...

    Don't disagree. This movie's casting seems to be the least of its problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    I seen the trailer for this a few weeks back and couldn't believe how poor the cgi was compared to the others such as Avengers 2. This with the weak storyline.....I'm scared now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Well they are meant to be infiltrators so why choose a minority group as a disguise?

    Em, Asia is the most populous landmass in the world, with 4.something billion. Hardly minority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Em, Asia is the most populous landmass in the world, with 4.something billion. Hardly minority.

    They are in 1980's LA.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    dan1895 wrote: »
    They are in 1980's LA.

    3,500,439 in 1980.

    But still, I get your point. An austrian bodybuilder model in 80's LA is much more inconspicuous. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Soby





    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Soby wrote: »



    :)


    Probably the best thing from this new installment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Mr Freeze wrote: »
    I think a particular model of the T-800 all looked like Arnie.

    Like in T1, the T-800 in Kyles flashback was a different actor, so there could have been a bunch or T-800s that looked like that too.

    anyway, Re: the T-1000 looking Asian, sure it can take any appearance, male or female, so I don't think anything of it.

    Considering everything outside of the film universe is fanfare or speculation ,it's very much your choice as to what you want to believe :)

    The T-800's were described as a new model of infiltration unit, that utilised proper cyborg traits of skin, sweat and smell. Reese outlines the 600 series were the first attempt at infiltration units that were spotted easy due to their rubber skin.

    It's not a stretch to get to that while humans were gathered for manual labor, some were experimented on and skint, for Skynet to analyse methods to replicate skin and human exterior functions.

    The first film shows obviously Arnie as a T800, and another big guy (who was a model I believe irl) during the dream sequence/flashback. The assumption is that T800 series had different appearances, for obvious reasons.

    Obviously then as sequels emerged, it was required for Arnie to be involved. We don't actually know if Arnie was the only mould for a T800.

    There was some great fan fiction that outlined a concept to explain how Arnie was chosen to become the mould for the 800 series and it was somewhat interesting. A rising solider making waves, that Skynet captured and used as the concept for their first T800 infiltration model, to assassinate John Conor. The story would take place before any Terminator had ever been sent back through time, so Conor would only know Arnie as a loyal lieutenant, and it would close with Conor sending Reese back through time.

    It was only fanfare, but it was pretty riveting stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Also still can't get over the trailer. I read that leaked script that pointed to that, and it sounded gash. But even still, that is a moment that should be reserved for the film, and create a genuine HOLY SHIIIITTTT moment


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭SirLemonhead


    Arnie's pal and fellow bodybuilder Franco Columbu played the second T800 in the future scene :)

    Short guy too.. that's him on the far right (obviously)

    franco-columbu-sylvester-stallone.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,466 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    TheDoc wrote: »
    We don't actually know if Arnie was the only mould for a T800.

    I always assumed he wasn't (as evidenced by Reese's flashback/dream sequence in the first film). Remember Arnie's full designation is a T800 Model 101

    Presumably that other Terminator in the dream was Model 50 or 105 or whatever. In T3 Arnie explains he was chosen for the original termination mission because of the familiarity Connor had with his Model number (from T2)

    Why the same model was chosen by the Resistance in T2 at all (given John/Sarah's understandable reaction when they first see him) is a question.. but of course we know in reality it was because Arnie was the star of the film :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,251 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Why is the CGI so bad? Is it being made on a really low budget or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    Thargor wrote: »
    Why is the CGI so bad? Is it being made on a really low budget or something?

    The younger Arnie looks ok, don't ya think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,455 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Simon2015 wrote: »
    I think the best we can hope for with Terminator Genisys is that its as good as Terminator 3.


    Don't set the bar too high!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭SouthTippBass


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Why the same model was chosen by the Resistance in T2 at all (given John/Sarah's understandable reaction when they first see him) is a question.. but of course we know in reality it was because Arnie was the star of the film :p

    Yes, because Arnie. But if you wanted to justify it story wise, its because a Terminator would be a very diffucult thing to capture, and the resistence didnt have a lot of choice of which model to send back. They captured a T800 model so thats what they went with, sound good?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭shazzerman


    I think Terminator 3 gets a lot of stick, mostly deserved it must be said. However, I do think that the effects in it are top-notch and still impressive today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,492 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    TO me the CGI in this looks terrific, no idea what the fuss is about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Yes, because Arnie. But if you wanted to justify it story wise, its because a Terminator would be a very diffucult thing to capture, and the resistence didnt have a lot of choice of which model to send back. They captured a T800 model so thats what they went with, sound good?

    So how many of that model did they capture ?

    5 or 6 going by each film?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,972 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    If all the T800s looked the same then the resistance would spot them easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    If all the T800s looked the same then the resistance would spot them easily.

    From the trailer for the new film, I think it shows a T800 production line, and they all look like Arnie.

    In T1, they were probably envisaged to all look different, but the sequels changed it to include Arnie again, which for T2 was not a bad thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,251 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Its been explained already, there are different models to the T800 platform, there willl be multiple copies of arnie, multiple copies of the guy who gets into the bunker in the flashback, multiple copies of the guy from Sarah Connor chronicles, the time machine is perfectly acceptable but you need to get hung up on manufacturing techniques in a post-apocalyptic society?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    You know Edward Furlong would still be the perfect John Connor in ways, the man looks battle hardened from drugs and would probably look more real/honest and military-like than all the actors we'd likely see in this.

    If they could bring Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher out of relative obscurity for Star Wars, why not him?

    Even looking at this cynically this would have got people talking and be good for Paramount financially.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Adamantium wrote: »
    Even looking at this cynically this would have got people talking and be good for Paramount financially.

    Bit too risky. Could go horribly wrong with Furlong going AWOL (or worse!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    New poster. This film looks horrible.


    RxcQNO7.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,396 ✭✭✭DenMan


    In that poster John looks like Adam from Buffy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭SouthTippBass


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    So how many of that model did they capture ?

    5 or 6 going by each film?

    One for T2, and one for T3, I think. So two altogether so far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Dair76


    So even if you had avoided the last trailer and thus the major spoiler it contains, they give it away in the poster anyway. Fuck you, Hollywood.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Lmao, poster looks about the same quality as something you'd see on the cover of an old Bollywood VCR tape


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