Farming ChitChat Ploughs On To Five

whelan2 · 15-04-2015 08:20AM

this could be long so bear with me, my dad sold a site on farm about 40 years ago, family built a house. The father always walked our fields with his dog never caused a problem, left gates as they where, would bring kids along too sometimes. He just climbed through wire fence from his boundary on to our land. About 15 years ago my dad sold a site to his daughter adjoining the other site. When this was being fenced off they used post and rail and left a little gate onto our land-they never asked could they do this- Anyway the father continued to walk our land using this gate always closing it after him.The daughter and her family would go up the fields sometimes too. In the last year he has become ill, the gate has been left open , cows got in to the garden last year- this was a big laugh to the son in law, who said he would make sure the gate was always closed. So twice this year cows have gone to go to paddock beside their house and the gate was open when i checked before i let them in. Can i block off the gate? I am assuming after all these years they have a right of way, In my mind i shouldnt have to go and check if their gate is closed before letting my cows in to paddock

Nekarsulm · 15-04-2015 08:37AM

I thought you could only have a right of way to access your own property? Which these people are not doing.
Exiting your own land/property to wander over another's, for a casual walk or whatever, would not create a Right of Way. In my opinion.
The other concern, would be that you might be found negligent if one of these walkers fell or injured themselves on your property. By allowing them have a gateway into your field could be considered giving your consent to their presence in your field.
If you are happy to let them walk on your field, however, perhaps arrange/ask them to fit two of those coil springs you see on doors sometimes?

lakill Farm · 15-04-2015 08:39AM

just maybe call around to them and ask is it ok to put a chain and lock on the small gate and offer them one key and you keep one?

otherwise 2 strands of wire right to the back of the gate, off the mains fencer

whelan2 wrote: »

this could be long so bear with me, my dad sold a site on farm about 40 years ago, family built a house. The father always walked our fields with his dog never caused a problem, left gates as they where, would bring kids along too sometimes. He just climbed through wire fence from his boundary on to our land. About 15 years ago my dad sold a site to his daughter adjoining the other site. When this was being fenced off they used post and rail and left a little gate onto our land-they never asked could they do this- Anyway the father continued to walk our land using this gate always closing it after him.The daughter and her family would go up the fields sometimes too. In the last year he has become ill, the gate has been left open , cows got in to the garden last year- this was a big laugh to the son in law, who said he would make sure the gate was always closed. So twice this year cows have gone to go to paddock beside their house and the gate was open when i checked before i let them in. Can i block off the gate? I am assuming after all these years they have a right of way, In my mind i shouldnt have to go and check if their gate is closed before letting my cows in to paddock

whelan2 · 15-04-2015 08:43AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I thought you could only have a right of way to access your own property? Which these people are not doing.
Exiting your own land/property to wander over another's, for a casual walk or whatever, would not create a Right of Way. In my opinion.
The other concern, would be that you might be found negligent if one of these walkers fell or injured themselves on your property. By allowing them have a gateway into your field could be considered giving your consent to their presence in your field.
If you are happy to let them walk on your field, however, perhaps arrange/ask them to fit two of those coil springs you see on doors sometimes?

initially there was one of those spring coil thingys on it, i would know the people all my life and in the last year i really have bitten my tongue, they would let the father head of up the fields on his own- he has been very ill- I said it to the son in law and his reply was he loves going up those fields, i am afraid of him falling or some thing.Escpecially when bull is with cows. I went to the mother last year and she sorted it for a while. Thats not an issue any more as he cant go out . But anything i raise with them is met with a laugh or a joke.

whelan2 · 15-04-2015 08:47AM

lakill Farm wrote: »

just maybe call around to them and ask is it ok to put a chain and lock on the small gate and offer them one key and you keep one?

otherwise 2 strands of wire right to the back of the gate, off the mains fencer

ah these fecking accountants very hard to talk to them:rolleyes:

Nekarsulm · 15-04-2015 08:49AM

Well, then they will laugh and joke when you put a chain and a lock on it. Permanently.
There's a fellow near us, always ready with a laugh and a joke. Fundraiser in the local community etc, always ready to take part in a skit or on stage.
Collided with a ewe on a back road a couple of years ago, car superficially damaged. Sued for whiplash, and took 80,000 Euro from the owners of the ewe, two bachelors in their 70's.
hHs since built a very nice extension to his house, etc.

ganmo · 15-04-2015 08:54AM

all rights of ways now have to be registered, if not registered you have every right to block it up

Reggie. · 15-04-2015 09:04AM

ganmo wrote: »

all rights of ways now have to be registered, if not registered you have every right to block it up

Thought this myself. That surly wouldn't count as a right if way as it's not into any property of theirs

ganmo · 15-04-2015 09:10AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Thought this myself. That surly wouldn't count as a right if way as it's not into any property of theirs

You're probably right, right of access or passage through, not right to wander

Reggie. · 15-04-2015 09:15AM

ganmo wrote: »

You're probably right, right of access or passage through, not right to wander

Was there not a big thing last year where all right of ways had to be registered and any disputes had to go through the courts

Nekarsulm · 15-04-2015 09:16AM

http://www.lynchsolicitors.ie/news/registration-of-rights-of-way/

Still a couple of years to register them, I think.
Until 2021.

ganmo · 15-04-2015 09:24AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Was there not a big thing last year where all right of ways had to be registered and any disputes had to go through the courts

yup, parents had to take the coco to court when they tried to establish a right of way over our ground.

Base price · 15-04-2015 09:59AM

OH sold a site on a out farm a few years ago. There is a well on his land near the new house and the people asked could they run a connection from it for their garden etc. No prob says OH as long as you pay for it etc.
Anyway when they were putting up the post and rail fence around the house they left a gateway near the well. OH asked why they did so and they said so they could have access to the well. OH asked them to remove the gate and they did not. We put up 3 strands of barbed wire fence on our side of the post and rail fence to prevent access. Solicitor advised us to do this and take a photograph every year.

Reggie. · 15-04-2015 08:46PM

Take a look at this
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057414550/1/#post95101221

Blackgrass · 15-04-2015 09:41PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Take a look at this
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057414550/1/#post95101221

Proper order too, there's having no were to pull in and there's taking the pee.
Slow moving machine on a 100km/h road is silly

Reggie. · 15-04-2015 09:43PM

Blackgrass wrote: »

Proper order too, there's having no were to pull in and there's taking the pee.
Slow moving machine on a 100km/h road is silly

Exactly. 7 km is some length of a tailback

Farrell · 15-04-2015 09:47PM

Blackgrass wrote: »

Proper order too, there's having no were to pull in and there's taking the pee.
Slow moving machine on a 100km/h road is silly

Yea but as OH said when I showed, why couldn't the first car overtake.
We've witnessed loads of times where a car will just sit waiting for the tractor pulls in to a standing stop before passing

mayota · 15-04-2015 10:06PM

Blackgrass wrote: »

Proper order too, there's having no were to pull in and there's taking the pee.
Slow moving machine on a 100km/h road is silly

There's more places to overtake than pull in on that road. I don't believe the 7k tailback. Story a few years old now.

I said · 15-04-2015 10:53PM

Farrell wrote: »

Yea but as OH said when I showed, why couldn't the first car overtake.
We've witnessed loads of times where a car will just sit waiting for the tractor pulls in to a standing stop before passing

Probably a ****ing Yaris driver anyone who drives one of them has no shame.
Nearly always the first car in the que is a yaris

topgeas · 16-04-2015 06:09AM

terrible news coming out of scotland. rip karen.

Reggie. · 16-04-2015 06:14AM

topgeas wrote: »

terrible news coming out of scotland. rip karen.

Had a feeling that poor woman wasn't going to be found alive

whelan2 · 16-04-2015 06:31AM

rest in peace, the police seemed to be working very hard to find her, god love her friends and family

White Clover · 16-04-2015 06:53AM

Very sad. RIP

whelan2 · 17-04-2015 08:10AM

topgeas wrote: »

terrible news coming out of scotland. rip karen.

think i will stop listening to the news for a while, heard earlier of the 9 year old girl kidnapped, raped and killed in france, death penalty would be too good for some people

_Brian · 17-04-2015 08:23AM

whelan2 wrote: »

think i will stop listening to the news for a while, heard earlier of the 9 year old girl kidnapped, raped and killed in france, death penalty would be too good for some people

I agree...
Sometimes when I'm out on the road I listen to audio books on my phone.. And we've no TV at home, 2-3 days with no news at all is a great break !

A cow called Daisy · 17-04-2015 10:14AM

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Went to get stuff of loft and mammy/daddy flew out door. Would of been minding these two squabs.
Calling them Dastardly and Mutley.

Nab him, grab him, catch that pigeon now. I have embarrassed myself with knowing cartoons.

Reggie. · 17-04-2015 10:16AM

whelan2 wrote: »

think i will stop listening to the news for a while, heard earlier of the 9 year old girl kidnapped, raped and killed in france, death penalty would be too good for some people

Kidnappings are quite common in France and spain

A cow called Daisy · 17-04-2015 10:17AM

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

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Went to get stuff of loft and mammy/daddy flew out door. Would of been minding these two squabs.
Calling them Dastardly and Mutley.

Nab him, grab him, catch that pigeon now. I have embarrassed myself with knowing cartoons.

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And this is mammy/daddy

Muckit · 17-04-2015 10:40AM

_Brian wrote: »

I agree...
Sometimes when I'm out on the road I listen to audio books on my phone.. And we've no TV at home, 2-3 days with no news at all is a great break !

I agree. People get so wrapped up in it. And feed on the negativity. Yes it's terrible for the people involved, but no point worrying about every little thing that happens, the reality is that there is terrible stuff going on the whole time that we know nothing about!

Well I have some good news for ye. I had a son born in the last few days. Mother and baby doing great. Bringing them home from hospital tomorrow

And nobody better start pissing on my bonfire talking about night feeds and no sleep and all the negative crap, cos I don't wana here it!! :rolleyes: They're all healthy. Crying, dirty nappies and lack of sleep.... bring it on, nobody died from it yet or at least I must have missed the news that night when that story broke!!

Charliebull · 17-04-2015 10:46AM

Muckit wrote: »

I agree. People get so wrapped up in it. And feed on the negativity. Yes it's terrible for the people involved, but no point worrying about every little thing that happens, the reality is that there is terrible stuff going on the whole time that we know nothing about!

Well I have some good news for ye. I had a son born in the last few days. Mother and baby doing great. Bringing them home from hospital tomorrow

And nobody better start pissing on my bonfire talking about night feeds and no sleep and all the negative crap, cos I don't wana here it!! :rolleyes: They're all healthy. Crying, dirty nappies and lack of sleep.... bring it on, nobody died from it yet or at least I must have missed the news that night when that story broke!!

fair fcuking play to you muckit
is it your first

ur right there is nothing negative about kids, there a joy to be treasured

Farming ChitChat Ploughs On To Five

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