This fat girl runs, breathes and believes

This Fat Girl Runs · 06-04-2015 05:29PM

Pacing Mule wrote: »

Going to ask a very sensitive question but since you seem open enough about things via your user name etc can I ask what weight you are now at the moment?

I ask having come from a very over weight background myself to running a marathon whilst still overweight. I count it as a great personal experience but it wasn't pretty at all by the end. I'm wondering how near you would be to my own weight at the time.

I'm 15.5 stone. Is that near where you were? How long did you train for?

I am definitely prepared for the hard going with the training and the day itself. I've read enough of how even seasoned/fit runners struggled with the marathon last year! It took me a while to finally decide to go for it partly because I knew it was going to be tough.

But in the end, I know I can do it and I know it will be worth it. It will be so, so worth it!

Chivito550 · 06-04-2015 05:34PM

This Fat Girl Runs wrote: »

Fair question that I'm happy to answer.

The short answer is: because I can (I wrote a whole blog post about it if you're interested).

The reality, in terms of my distances/times etc, doesn't look good from your point of view, I totally understand that. But the point of training to run a marathon, for me, is to push myself. Having a goal (a difficult one at that!) is better motivation for me than anything.

I've worked hard over the last year to get myself to a point where I can handle the training. I know I can do it. My trainer knows I can do it and my coach knows I can do it. And I have 7 months to get ready.

In the meantime I have smaller goals to focus on, like running 5k in 30 minutes; running 5 miles in under and hour; and running 10k non-stop.

I know I will do all three!

Does your coach have a background in athletics? I find it hard to believe any coach who knows anything about this sport would give the go ahead for somebody to attempt a marathon when it is as clear as day that person is nowhere near ready for it. IMO, you need to focus on getting fit, losing the weight, getting the times for the shorter distances WAY down, building a mileage base. Then a couple of years down the line take on the marathon properly. Would you rather sub 4 hours in 3 years time or 8 hours + now? There are no shortcuts in this sport. Personally I think doing a marathon now is a poor choice, and a very unhealthy, and potentially dangerous one at that.

Best of luck anyway.

This Fat Girl Runs · 06-04-2015 05:41PM

Chivito550 wrote: »

Does your coach have a background in athletics? I find it hard to believe any coach who knows anything about this sport would give the go ahead for somebody to attempt a marathon when it is as clear as day that person is nowhere near ready for it. IMO, you need to focus on getting fit, losing the weight, getting the times for the shorter distances WAY down, building a mileage base. Then a couple of years down the line take on the marathon properly. Would you rather sub 4 hours in 3 years time or 8 hours + now? There are no shortcuts in this sport. Personally I think doing a marathon now is a poor choice, and a very unhealthy, and potentially dangerous one at that.

Best of luck anyway.

I appreciate your thoughts on the matter and understand where you are coming from. Thanks for the best wishes anyway!

hillsiderunner · 06-04-2015 05:49PM

Hi TFGR,

First to say that I am no expert at all given that DCM 2015 will be my own 1st marathon... but I had kind of similar thoughts as Chivito. It will be a massive increase in mileage over what you've been doing, which seems dangerous over only 7 months.

Hope it goes well all the same, and I know a "big goal" can sometimes really be a carrot to stepping things up. If it starts getting too tortuous, or if injuries start playing up, don't forget that there are other challenges like 10milers and half-marathons instead that would still help you develop a lot.

This Fat Girl Runs · 06-04-2015 06:17PM

hillsiderunner wrote: »

Hi TFGR,

First to say that I am no expert at all given that DCM 2015 will be my own 1st marathon... but I had kind of similar thoughts as Chivito. It will be a massive increase in mileage over what you've been doing, which seems dangerous over only 7 months.

Hope it goes well all the same, and I know a "big goal" can sometimes really be a carrot to stepping things up. If it starts getting too tortuous, or if injuries start playing up, don't forget that there are other challenges like 10milers and half-marathons instead that would still help you develop a lot.

Thanks for the advice!

Pacing Mule · 06-04-2015 06:20PM

This Fat Girl Runs wrote: »

I'm 15.5 stone. Is that near where you were? How long did you train for?

I am definitely prepared for the hard going with the training and the day itself. I've read enough of how even seasoned/fit runners struggled with the marathon last year! It took me a while to finally decide to go for it partly because I knew it was going to be tough.

But in the end, I know I can do it and I know it will be worth it. It will be so, so worth it!

Hmmmmm

Ok - Here's the story. Comparing like with like. At this point in April of the year I first did DCM I was about 15.5 stone too having been near to 17 stone at my heaviest. I'd ran 5 miles in 50 minutes and had ran 10k non stop too.

I thought I was ready to train for DCM that year. Mentally I was. Physically in hindsight I was nowhere near it but you have no way of knowing that until the mileage ramps up. Got injured once the mileage went up in August because a) my body wasn't used to the miles at all and b) I was too heavy to be running those miles. I ended up running DCM on a suspected stress fracture. One of the most painful experiences of my life as I fell apart after 11 miles.

Countless people here told me not to do it, gave me the same advise you will no doubt get here. I ignored them and ultimately was happy to finish DCM - I expect you will be of the same mentality. I'm still proud of myself for running it. Don't get me wrong, but I also know in hindsight it was a stupid move and I would have had a much more pleasant first marathon if I had of waited for it and trained from a proper base. Crawling home hours after most of the field is not the beneficial side to completing a marathon.

I'd also have lost my weight sooner and be a faster runner now if I had waited as I was out for quite some time afterwards. Support of family and well wishers is of course very welcome and likely to drive you on. Your coach is frankly doing you a huge disservice encouraging you to do this. If I had a coach who had encouraged me back then to run DCM I'd have fired him after I came to my senses.

Forgive the above for sounding harsh. I mean it with the very best of intentions. You would be far better off in my opinion concentrating on losing some more weight first and on shorter distances building up a better base etc and then training for a marathon.

I do hope it goes well for you after you ignore everyone here me included. It's what I would have done :pac:

This Fat Girl Runs · 06-04-2015 06:46PM

Pacing Mule wrote: »

Hmmmmm

Ok - Here's the story. Comparing like with like. At this point in April of the year I first did DCM I was about 15.5 stone too having been near to 17 stone at my heaviest. I'd ran 5 miles in 50 minutes and had ran 10k non stop too.

I thought I was ready to train for DCM that year. Mentally I was. Physically in hindsight I was nowhere near it but you have no way of knowing that until the mileage ramps up. Got injured once the mileage went up in August because a) my body wasn't used to the miles at all and b) I was too heavy to be running those miles. I ended up running DCM on a suspected stress fracture. One of the most painful experiences of my life as I fell apart after 11 miles.

Countless people here told me not to do it, gave me the same advise you will no doubt get here. I ignored them and ultimately was happy to finish DCM - I expect you will be of the same mentality. I'm still proud of myself for running it. Don't get me wrong, but I also know in hindsight it was a stupid move and I would have had a much more pleasant first marathon if I had of waited for it and trained from a proper base. Crawling home hours after most of the field is not the beneficial side to completing a marathon.

I'd also have lost my weight sooner and be a faster runner now if I had waited as I was out for quite some time afterwards. Support of family and well wishers is of course very welcome and likely to drive you on. Your coach is frankly doing you a huge disservice encouraging you to do this. If I had a coach who had encouraged me back then to run DCM I'd have fired him after I came to my senses.

Forgive the above for sounding harsh. I mean it with the very best of intentions. You would be far better off in my opinion concentrating on losing some more weight first and on shorter distances building up a better base etc and then training for a marathon.

I do hope it goes well for you after you ignore everyone here me included. It's what I would have done :pac:

Thanks for sharing your story.

menoscemo · 06-04-2015 06:53PM

This Fat Girl Runs wrote: »

In the meantime I have smaller goals to focus on, like running 5k in 30 minutes; running 5 miles in under and hour; and running 10k non-stop.

I know I will do all three!

That's good that you have some progress goals along the way because the marathon is very tough, especially for beginner runners and DCM has a strict enough cut off of 7 (or 7.5?? hours) after which you don't get an official time or medal so it would be pretty soul destroying not to make it.

You will want to be in sub 3hr half Marathon shape come September to be able to make the cut off comfortably and I recommend the race series HM (along with the other 3 races) as a build up to the marathon itself. You can use those to monitor your progress.

Good luck with it

walshb · 06-04-2015 07:14PM

This Fat Girl Runs wrote: »

Fair question that I'm happy to answer.

The short answer is: because I can (I wrote a whole blog post about it if you're interested).

I am sure many people can sign up for many things. That doesn't mean it's at all wise. October is a stone's throw away. If you are struggling at 40 mins for 5 k then a marathon should be like signing up for a slow death. Call that harsh, but it's sound advice!

RonanP77 · 06-04-2015 07:34PM

This Fat Girl Runs wrote:

In the meantime I have smaller goals to focus on, like running 5k in 30 minutes; running 5 miles in under and hour; and running 10k non-stop.

Those are pretty good goals, best of luck with them.

I think a lot of runners starting out have their eye on a Marathon, I know I certainly do. If all goes to plan I'll do DCM 2016, if not then there's always the following year. I figure it'll take me that long to be able to do that kind of distance comfortably.

Some posters on here might be a little blunt how they go about saying things but they mostly know what they're talking about. They're just trying to look out for you. You know your body better than anyone and you seem sensible enough that if you think you've bitten off more than you can chew you'd put a marathon off for another year.

Whether you go ahead with it this year or decide to wait, I wish you all the best.

walshb · 06-04-2015 07:41PM

RonanP77 wrote: »

T
I think a lot of runners starting out have their eye on a Marathon, I know I certainly do. If all goes to plan I'll do DCM 2016, if not then there's always the following year. I figure it'll take me that long to be able to do that kind of distance comfortably.
.

I agree, Ronan, and therin lies the "problem." People going from barely being able to walk up the stairs to "I'm going to run the marathon this year." It's fooking bonkers mentality. Then they get people encouraging it and making out that it's so achievable. Yes, slobbering around for 26 miles is achievable for pretty much anyone. But the question needs to be asked? Why slobber around doing it? That is not directed at anyone in particular, just the overall mentality of some "runners" these days. I commend anyone getting of their backsides and committing to trying to keep fit and healthy. I really do.

Chivito550 · 06-04-2015 10:21PM

In the end of the day this is a public forum and people are going to give their opinions on things they don't agree with. I believe all the advice above to be good, and I would hope that you at least consider it.

Also, if I were in your situation, really wanting to improve my times, I would ditch the Twitter account. It's very easy to end up with a false sense of security having 2600 followers (still amazed how you've done that. I mean there are pro runners out there with not even half that). None of these "followers" will call you out on bad decisions. Being told you are great all the time won't help you improve. There's good advice on boards if you are willing to seek it out and take it on board. I'd also lose the brand name/ persona/ logo. It doesn't exactly encourage you to drop the weight if that's what you want to identify yourself as.

Right, that's me done now. All the best.

This Fat Girl Runs · 12-04-2015 12:18PM

Thanks everyone for your thoughtful and kind concern for me. I appreciate it.

This week's training went well! I had two short runs (one hard, one easy) and one long run, plus a legs/core workout session with my trainer.

The short hard run went great, I did sprint intervals with walk/jog recovery and felt like I'd really pushed myself on the sprints.

The short easy run was ok but the beautiful, sunshiny, HOT weather made it a bit of a drag. I'm considering switching to morning runs again for the summer.

Long run was brilliant! Kept to a very consistent pace throughout, despite the very windy and rainy conditions this morning! 5 miles, in the bag! Had to wring out my running gear when I got home though!

Total mileage: 10 miles

Workout session on Saturday was intense, lots of leg work and we upped the weights a bit for some of the squats/presses. Monday will be reserved for arms/upper body and core.

So over the next few months my weeks will be 3 days running, 2 days weights/pilates/HIIT with 2 days rest.

Hoping the weather is better for next week's training!

Chivito550 · 12-04-2015 03:21PM

What sort of sprint intervals session did you do? Was it like a fartlek run? What distance were the sprints and how many reps?

What is the general purpose of doing this faster work when you are training to run 26.2 miles?

ultraman1 · 12-04-2015 03:25PM

Chivito550 wrote: »

What sort of sprint intervals session did you do? Was it like a fartlek run? What distance were the sprints and how many reps?

What is the general purpose of doing this faster work when you are training to run 26.2 miles?

Was just about to ask this aswell,am no expert or coach by any means but if i was training for a long race ,id be concentrating on the means to get me through that,which at this stage of ur training wudnt require sprints or faster stuff

NetwerkErrer · 12-04-2015 05:08PM

ultraman1 wrote: »

Was just about to ask this aswell,am no expert or coach by any means but if i was training for a long race ,id be concentrating on the means to get me through that,which at this stage of ur training wudnt require sprints or faster stuff

Why not?

But isn't their a flipside to this as the OP is trying to lose weight? High intensity training is a far more efficient way to burn fat thus making her lighter for training to come during the buildup which will make the repetitive loading on footstrike less. I don't mean that in an insensitive way but it's true. Running economy would be greatly improved by weight loss alone thus improving performance and ability to take on the trials of miles. Traditional marathon training is not always the best approach when other factors have to be taken into consideration such as weight and pace. In an ideal world, anybody slower than 3.30 shouldn't use traditional training methods and individual factors should be taken into account. Most coaches don't even believe people should run a marathon until they have the capacity to run under 3 hours if they do not have years of base behind them as anything slower limits your ability to get all the necessary physiological training without all the diminishing returns and injury risk increasing exponentially as a runner gets slower.

They are probably right but that's not going to stop anyone from running. Under that threshold, adaptions to training and circumstances have to be taking into account as a traditional approach gets more risky and less rewarding. That could mean adding more steady paced sessions instead of long runs. It's a question of how do they get a person over the line with as little injury and diminishing risk as possible.

There maybe merit in using HIT now instead of increasing mileage in this situation. I don't know, I'm not an expert but it could work out.

Chivito550 · 12-04-2015 05:18PM

NetwerkErrer wrote: »

Why not?

But isn't their a flipside to this as the OP is trying to lose weight? High intensity training is a far more efficient way to burn fat thus making her lighter for training to come during the buildup which will make the repetitive loading on footstrike less. I don't mean that in an insensitive way but it's true. Running economy would be greatly improved by weight loss alone thus improving performance and ability to take on the trials of miles. Traditional marathon training is not always the best approach when other factors have to be taken into consideration such as weight and pace. In an ideal world, anybody slower than 3.30 shouldn't use traditional training methods and individual factors should be taken into account. Most coaches don't even believe people should run a marathon until they have the capacity to run under 3 hours if they do not have years of base behind them as anything slower limits your ability to get all the necessary physiological training without all the diminishing returns and injury risk increasing exponentially as a runner gets slower.

They are probably right but that's not going to stop anyone from running. Under that threshold, adaptions to training and circumstances have to be taking into account as a traditional approach gets more risky and less rewarding. That could mean adding more steady paced sessions instead of long runs. It's a question of how do they get a person over the line with as little injury and diminishing risk as possible.

There maybe merit in using HIT now instead of increasing mileage in this situation. I don't know, I'm not an expert but it could work out.

You are making a very big assumption that the OP has weight loss as a goal. It doesn't appear like that to me. If this was the goal then there wouldn't be a marathon on the horizon in 6 months time. Weight loss would require far more time than a few sprints over the next couple of months.

The goal seems to clearly be to finish a marathon, so IMO the OP should do the things that will get her through the 42.2km. Time doesn't seem to be important. It's a case of covering the distance.

ultraman1 · 12-04-2015 05:28PM

NetwerkErrer wrote: »

Why not?

But isn't their a flipside to this as the OP is trying to lose weight? High intensity training is a far more efficient way to burn fat thus making her lighter for training to come during the buildup which will make the repetitive loading on footstrike less. I don't mean that in an insensitive way but it's true. Running economy would be greatly improved by weight loss alone thus improving performance and ability to take on the trials of miles. Traditional marathon training is not always the best approach when other factors have to be taken into consideration such as weight and pace. In an ideal world, anybody slower than 3.30 shouldn't use traditional training methods and individual factors should be taken into account. Most coaches don't even believe people should run a marathon until they have the capacity to run under 3 hours if they do not have years of base behind them as anything slower limits your ability to get all the necessary physiological training without all the diminishing returns and injury risk increasing exponentially as a runner gets slower.

They are probably right but that's not going to stop anyone from running. Under that threshold, adaptions to training and circumstances have to be taking into account as a traditional approach gets more risky and less rewarding. That could mean adding more steady paced sessions instead of long runs. It's a question of how do they get a person over the line with as little injury and diminishing risk as possible.

There maybe merit in using HIT now instead of increasing mileage in this situation. I don't know, I'm not an expert but it could work out.

wat chivito said...though he is no expert either

NetwerkErrer · 12-04-2015 05:52PM

Chivito550 wrote: »

You are making a very big assumption that the OP has weight loss as a goal. It doesn't appear like that to me. If this was the goal then there wouldn't be a marathon on the horizon in 6 months time. Weight loss would require far more time than a few sprints over the next couple of months.

The goal seems to clearly be to finish a marathon, so IMO the OP should do the things that will get her through the 42.2km. Time doesn't seem to be important. It's a case of covering the distance.

But what difference does it make if weight loss is her goal or not? She's not drawing up her training plan so we are both assuming what her coach is thinking. I never said anything about a time, I said getting over the line. Do you not agree that the OP would get an improvement in running economy from HIT?

I hate talking about this but running economy is the biggest performance limiter in overweight people as weight doesn't effect maximal aerobic capacity. The majority of gains will therefore be made by losing weight and increasing running economy. There is no way in hell should the OP be running 16+ mile runs like a traditional plan. Any run over 3 hours and the benefits start to fall off a cliff and physiological damage and recovery time increases substantially every minute.Therefore, you want to find another way to skin a cat and get benefit from another type of training. Anyone who would suggest a traditional training approach to a 5+ hour marathon runner is off their nut in my opinion.

I'm not saying the OP's approach is right as I don't know but I could see merit in it. A traditional marathon approach is completely wrong in these circumstances though. Who said she is going to be doing just sprints for the next few months? You have to build for the ground up. I'm faster than the OP but I always start my training cycle with sprints and buildup up to longer intense repeats as I adapt to the stimulus and stress of short distance repeats first like every other runner.

How do you expect to go longer at intensity down the line if you're not going short and intense first. It's laying a foundation for down the road.

Dubgal72 · 12-04-2015 05:56PM

Let's not be a Village Runner here eh?!

This woman has decided that running a marathon this year is for her. I've been there, it would have taken broken legs a lot to dissuade me so let's help her get there (if she wants our help) with positive advice peeps. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Have you a target in mind TFGR and are you planning a run/walk strategy or run? I feel a bit silly asking, but has your coach much experience with marathon plans?
I was intrigued with what Netwerk Errer had to say about marathon plans for *slower* runners until I realised that I had been following a plan adapted for less experienced runners! I'd be interested to hear what the principles behind yours involve.

NetwerkErrer · 12-04-2015 06:09PM

Dubgal72 wrote: »

Let's not be a Village Runner here eh?! This woman has decided that running a marathon this year is for her. I've been there, it would have taken broken legs a lot to dissuade me so let's help her get there (if she wants our help) with positive advice peeps. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Have you a target in mind TFGR and are you planning a run/walk strategy or walk? I feel a bit silly asking, but has your coach much experience with marathon plans?
I was intrigued with what Netwerk Errer had to say about marathon plans for *slower* runners until I realised that I had been following a plan adapted for less experienced runners! I'd be interested to hear what the principles behind yours involve.

+1 DG. There is more than one way to skin a cat. I'm not saying all marathon training plans are wrong, the right one is always the one that takes your ability into account. I was just saying the traditional approach is not for all.

Chivito550 · 12-04-2015 06:13PM

NetwerkErrer wrote: »

+1 DG. There is more than one way to skin a cat. I'm not saying all marathon training plans are wrong, the right one is always the one that takes your ability into account. I was just saying the traditional approach is not for all.

To be honest, there's an awful lot of over complication going on here, both in terms of the coach's approach (the small bit of info we have been given) and your posts. I'm not saying your posts don't have merit, but we're talking about somebody running about 38 mins for 5k. I don't think there is any need to have such a technical approach. She'll improve by running more. Her weekly mileage is tiny at the moment. Gradually build it up over time. 6 months is very soon though.

ultraman1 · 12-04-2015 06:14PM

NetwerkErrer wrote: »

How do you expect to go longer at intensity down the line

Not wanting to take ovet this ladies log and fill with casanova/stazza/karl henry type language and debate ,but i doubt she will be running dcm at any sort of intensity,the ladie at the moment has run an 8 mile week.id be of the opinion of keepin her runs/training as simple as possible with the emphisis on gettin used to running as much as possible and building up milage as slowlyas posdible over 3/4 runs per week...nothing more,nothing less....apologies for this more than likly unwanted debate in your training tfgr..again im no expert

NetwerkErrer · 12-04-2015 06:21PM

Chivito550 wrote: »

To be honest, there's an awful lot of over complication going on here, both in terms of the coach's approach (the small bit of info we have been given) and your posts. I'm not saying your posts don't have merit, but we're talking about somebody running about 38 mins for 5k. I don't think there is any need to have such a technical approach. She'll improve by running more. Her weekly mileage is tiny at the moment. Gradually build it up over time. 6 months is very soon though.

+1 Chivito. You're spot on. She is building at the moment. That's why I was wondering why you were questioning it like there was nothing in it. She will improve massively by just running more whether that be HIT or just easy running. It's that simple and that's the main thing. Apologies for the rambling, I can lose track of myself sometimes.

This Fat Girl Runs · 12-04-2015 06:38PM

I appreciate the debate, advice and thoughts you all are sharing. I'm not ignoring you but I feel like to respond to you would just open me up to being torn to shreds. So I'm not going to go into detail here but I do want to clear up a few things.

I did not make the decision to run a marathon lightly. If you've read my blog you'd know that I've been preparing to take on marathon training for 8 months now (and running for over a year and a half). I'm a novice marathoner, not a novice runner. Which is why I'm NOT doing a traditional training plan. I knew that the traditional plan was out of my league which is why I hired a coach to write the plan for me over a longer period of time, taking into account my current fitness level (running 3 times a week/PT 2 times a week) and my target time (which is more of a window than an actual time).

My coach is Shona Tomson, you can read more about her and her marathon achievements on her website, but the coolest thing she's done (pun intended) was run the North Pole Marathon last year. Both she, and my personal trainer, are 100% behind me and believe I can do this. They would not be working with me otherwise!

I appreciate the concerns and the debate but I won't be taking part in it as it would be too distracting to be arguing or trying to defend myself all the time. It would do my training no good!

I also appreciate any support and encouragement you might have for me. A little positivity goes a long way!

DocQismyJesus · 12-04-2015 06:57PM

FairPlay TFGR. It does seem like you've done good research on this and are going about it the right way! Hiring PT and coach seems very sensible and you're certainly getting started with plenty of time.

My only caution would be to make sure you've vetted and looked into your coach before handing over a ton of cash. I know nothing about her and only glanced at her website. Problem is the running world is full of hucksters with outlandish claims and when I see things like " First Scottish Woman to run 7 marathons on 7 continents" my BS detector starts buzzing. These claims are almost always made up garbage and hide the fact that the person simly isn't a great runner.

That said you do seem to have done good research and I'm assuming you've looked well into these people and taken recs etc.

I wish you all the best and hope you pull it off and have a positive experience that leads to a lifelong love of running! All the best

DQIMJ

davedanon · 12-04-2015 07:47PM

"High intensity training is a far more efficient way to burn fat"

Unless I've been dreadfully misinformed, it was my impression that the opposite is the case. Isn't it so that running more slowly, or even walking, results in a higher percentage of fat being burned, as opposed to glycogen/carbohydrate?

NetwerkErrer · 12-04-2015 08:04PM

davedanon wrote: »

"High intensity training is a far more efficient way to burn fat"

Unless I've been dreadfully misinformed, it was my impression that the opposite is the case. Isn't it so that running more slowly, or even walking, results in a higher percentage of fat being burned, as opposed to glycogen/carbohydrate?

Slow running does burn a higher percentage of fat but a percentage of total calories is much more important. Would you rather have 50% of 100 or 30% of 200? High intensity exercise burns a higher total of calories thus negating the effects of more reliance on carbohydrates.

That's not the only reason it is better for weight loss. It increases your metabolic rate after HIT, improves insulin sensitivity, fat oxidation and spikes growth hormone production as well as appetite suppression.

That is why I'm always hopping off enduro when he talks about steady running as the best weight loss method. Nearly every study comes to the conclusion that HIT is far better than aerobic running for weight loss.

yaboya1 · 12-04-2015 08:08PM

I don't normally comment on stuff like this because I wouldn't consider myself to be any way knowledgeable, but this grabbed my attention.

Let me see if I've got this right. You've yet to complete 10k at any pace and you've signed up for a marathon (42.2k) in 6 months time?

And to get yourself ready for the training you've done even less running than normal (8 mile weeks)?

This build up has been endorsed by a coach and a personal trainer?

Seriously? Is this a wind up?

davedanon · 12-04-2015 08:25PM

You keep saying HIT. Don't you actually mean HIIT?

This fat girl runs, breathes and believes

Comments