Woman who failed to pay TV licence fine taken to jail in five-hour taxi trip

shamrock55 · 28-02-2015 01:49PM

kneemos wrote: »

We don't have the legislation to deduct from peoples wages or welfare.

We do if you dont pay your house tax

Lapin · 28-02-2015 01:50PM

Jawgap wrote: »

I bet you're wrong - it was a nice earner, but it won't have been done on the meter and will have been done under contract. They didn't just ring up the local cab firm or walk out and hail a taxi.

I bet the contract holder is known to the Gardaí though.

And not in the negative sense of that phrase

who the fug · 28-02-2015 01:50PM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Just do a property tax on it and take it directly from wages before you even get the money.

The broadcasting charge is just going to be a blanket tax like property tax and water tax anyway.

Blanket taxes for everyone, got to pay back the IMF for the next 400 years.

No , why does the have to be in the entertainment businesses.

Get rid of RTE and BBC

The Backwards Man · 28-02-2015 01:50PM

Jawgap wrote: »

I bet you're wrong - it was a nice earner, but it won't have been done on the meter and will have been done under contract. They didn't just ring up the local cab firm or walk out and hail a taxi.

Have to go by Sligo on a court job too, it's not that great an earner at all.

SpaceTime · 28-02-2015 01:52PM

Infuriating waste of tax payers' money!

That €1000 could have gone on something useful.

Also, I thought Alan Shatter brought in legislation to prevent this kind of thing happening?
Did that get parked by someone or is it just being ignored?

Hans Bricks · 28-02-2015 01:56PM

Man Alive ! Does the Irish Justice system have any sense of perspective ?

Estimated potetntial loss of €160 for a semi private entity vs €1,000 to ferry someone to jail for 3 hours (and carry out the process in the most **** way possible).

dxhound2005 · 28-02-2015 02:02PM

kneemos wrote: »

We don't have the legislation to deduct from peoples wages or welfare.

The thing that annoys me is that we actually do. It is new legislation and maybe the failure to fully implement it is due to Alan Shatter being no longer Minister for Justice. And it seems attachement orders will apply to salaries and occupational pensions but not welfare payments.

http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/acts/2014/a714.pdf

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0722/463975-prison-unpaid-fines-alan-shatter/

FF/Greens intoduced the Fines Act 2010 which is the basis for the lastest legislation but for some reason they did not see fit to provide for attachement orders.

Harry Palmr · 28-02-2015 02:05PM

who the fug wrote: »

No , why does the have to be in the entertainment businesses.

Get rid of RTE and BBC

If the Irish government closed down the BBC there would be questions

.

mickstupp · 28-02-2015 02:06PM

mass_debater wrote: »

She should pay for the fcukin licence then like the rest of us and not wasting state funds paid by us taxpayers

How was she the one wasting state funds?

Baggy Trousers · 28-02-2015 02:07PM

Un Croissant wrote: »

Only in Ireland.

Did I get that right?

Only in Donegal perhaps. The Gardaí are a law unto themselves up there.

Baby Jane · 28-02-2015 02:07PM

mickstupp wrote: »

How was she the one wasting state funds?

Well I guess she could have avoided it getting to where it did.

minidazzler · 28-02-2015 02:08PM

kneemos wrote: »

She'd been to court,gotten a fine and a time to pay or jail time.

SIMPLES.

Being imprisoned for non payment of a fine is an absolutely ludicrous system.... It's tantamount to state mandated extortion.

kneemos · 28-02-2015 02:09PM

mickstupp wrote: »

How was she the one wasting state funds?

Court time.
Police time.
Prison service time.
Cost of a Taxi home.

Baggy Trousers · 28-02-2015 02:10PM

kneemos wrote: »

Court time.
Police time.
Prison service time.
Cost of a Taxi home.

And After Hours time! We're all busy!

mickstupp · 28-02-2015 02:10PM

Baby Jane wrote: »

Well I guess she could have avoided it getting to where it did.

Right, that's fair enough. She should've paid her fee. Grand. But she's not the one who decided to waste all that money transporting her. So she's not the one who decided to waste state funds in such a ludicrous manner.

Specialun · 28-02-2015 02:10PM

Jawgap wrote: »

I bet you're wrong - it was a nice earner, but it won't have been done on the meter and will have been done under contract. They didn't just ring up the local cab firm or walk out and hail a taxi.

So if it wasnt done on the meter it means it was accurate? Plus because it possibly was a contract then they cant have any affiliation to a guard..rofl

kneemos · 28-02-2015 02:11PM

mickstupp wrote: »

Right, that's fair enough. She should've paid her fee. Grand. But she's not the one who decided to waste all that money transporting her. So she's not the one who decided to waste state funds in such a ludicrous manner.

She is.

RobertKK · 28-02-2015 02:12PM

Really need a change in law so money that is owed like this can be paid over time from either your wage or social welfare payment.

What happened was a total waste of money, she had not paid in time, but had shown good faith by paying some of the fine, which was more than the TV license cost.

We should not be adding cost to the state that is not needed, hence why we need a law change.

mickstupp · 28-02-2015 02:13PM

@kneemos - Really. I'd love to hear the 'reasoning' on that. Since she surely doesn't have the power to authorise that expenditure, so she didn't decide to waste those funds on her own transfer.

RobertKK · 28-02-2015 02:13PM

kneemos wrote: »

She is.

We don't know her circumstances.

Idbatterim · 28-02-2015 02:13PM

let revenue deduct is at source like the property tax, this was suggested by the Gardai...

Lapin · 28-02-2015 02:15PM

kneemos wrote: »

She is.

She's responsible for the law taking action against her.

She's not responsible for the shambolic wasteful and idiotic manner in which the law went about undertaking that action.

The Backwards Man · 28-02-2015 02:15PM

Specialun wrote: »

So if it wasnt done on the meter it means it was accurate? Plus because it possibly was a contract then they cant have any affiliation to a guard..rofl

It would be about €1100 on the meter, (don't forget the two guards have to come home again;)) so I'd say yeah, the state got a good deal.

Tony EH · 28-02-2015 02:15PM

A license to own a TV.

How absurd.

:rolleyes:

kneemos · 28-02-2015 02:16PM

RobertKK wrote: »

We don't know her circumstances.

I'd have sympathy for her in fairness,having tried to pay.

Stinicker · 28-02-2015 02:16PM

If this proves anything it is that the TV licence should be totally scrapped, RTE are already a commercial station so let them sink or swim with minimal state assistance, all they have ever been is a mouthpiece for Fianna Fail anyway and a dumping ground for failed musicians and TV personalities.

Replace the TV licence with a €160 Internet tax, which would be used exclusively to fund the roll out of Fibre-Optic Broadband to the Home, FTTH, with a state owned and controlled Fibre Network into the homes all over the country but focusing firstly on Rural Ireland.

Noone should pay a TV licence! The biggest pity in this entire case was that the woman had paid over €200 already when she shouldn't have given them a single penny.

kneemos · 28-02-2015 02:18PM

mickstupp wrote: »

@kneemos - Really. I'd love to hear the 'reasoning' on that. Since she surely doesn't have the power to authorise that expenditure, so she didn't decide to waste those funds on her own transfer.

Resulted directly from her actions.

Baggy Trousers · 28-02-2015 02:19PM

She should be locked in a room for 48 hours and forced to watch The Angelus and Tubridy's snide interview of fellow crim Paul Murphy on constant repeat.

That would learn her.

How the hell did I get away from not paying for a TV license all these years? Are they really serious about it?

Tony EH · 28-02-2015 02:20PM

kneemos wrote: »

I'd have sympathy for her in fairness,having tried to pay.

Agreed...and paying, frankly, one of the most absurd taxes that we have in this stupid country.

Meanwhile, there are fcukers walking around scot free with criminal convictions in double figures.

It's utterly ridiculous.

Lapin · 28-02-2015 02:20PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Noone should pay a TV licence!

Damn right he should.

Woman who failed to pay TV licence fine taken to jail in five-hour taxi trip

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