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    Disqualification from driving and naturalisation approval

    • 18-04-2014 10:34PM
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      Meto
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      Hi all,

      I'm going to apply for naturalisation (Irish citizenship) in coming weeks, but I've been thinking is there a point to do this in my situation, so hope anyone can clarify it for me.

      I was disqualified from driving by court back in 2008 for 3 years and I think I can't expect approval for some time, but do anyone know for how long?

      I meet all of the other requirements, so that's the only reason for refusal.

      Thanks in advance for any feedback. :)


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    • #2
      Pro Hoc Vice
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      The current minister is granting naturalisation in some cases that the applicant had a conviction. It may be that the minister may postpone a decision for a period of time to see how the applicant behaves.


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      punisher5112
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      Another outstanding citizen.

      Why commit the crime in the 1st place if you wanted to become an Irish citizen?

      I believe we are too soft as our laws are also.


    • #4
      Apiarist
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      Meto wrote: »
      ... but I've been thinking is there a point to do this in my situation, so hope anyone can clarify it for me....

      There is a rumour that if you have been on good behaviour for the last 5 years, it should be fine. There are no guarantees. It is all down to the minister's decision in your particular case.


    • #5
      Meto
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      punisher5112 wrote: »
      Another outstanding citizen.

      Why commit the crime in the 1st place if you wanted to become an Irish citizen?

      I believe we are too soft as our laws are also.

      If you really have to know I didn't have a plan to commit offence (crime sounds to serious in this case)....but anyway nobody got hurt....so that was a lesson for me.

      Outstanding citizen....educated, permanent work for last 7 years, never applied for benefits....so yes you're right....well above average! :-D


    • #6
      Dandelion6
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      Own up to the conviction, apologise for it, point out that you've been on perfect behaviour since. If they have nothing else on you, you have a good chance although as stated above the Minister might defer the decision for a year or so just to make sure that you really are reformed.


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    • #7
      Santa Cruz
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      To get a three year ban would indicate a serious enough incident. This would not necesarily rule your application out particularly if all other aspects of your life in Ireland are positive e.g. employment, education etc.


    • #8
      Victor
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      punisher5112 wrote: »
      Another outstanding citizen.
      Ummm....


    • #9
      Pro Hoc Vice
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      Santa Cruz wrote: »
      To get a three year ban would indicate a serious enough incident. This would not necesarily rule your application out particularly if all other aspects of your life in Ireland are positive e.g. employment, education etc.

      A person can get a 4 year ban for having solpodol in your system while driving, together with evidence of impaired driving.

      The minimum drink driving for the high reading is 3 years and 4 no reading.


    • #10
      Santa Cruz
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      Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
      A person can get a 4 year ban for having solpodol in your system while driving, together with evidence of impaired driving.

      The minimum drink driving for the high reading is 3 years and 4 no reading.

      He does say that "nobody got hurt" which indicates some type of collision rather than being stopped at a checkpoint. People only get the high bans when the matter is serious


    • #11
      No Pants
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      Meto wrote: »
      Outstanding citizen....educated, permanent work for last 7 years, never applied for benefits....so yes you're right....well above average! :-D
      Nothing mentioned there is exceptional. Please describe what makes you an outstanding citizen.


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    • #12
      Mena
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      No Pants wrote: »
      Nothing mentioned there is exceptional. Please describe what makes you an outstanding citizen.

      He claimed 'well above average'. The poster he quoted mentioned 'outstanding citizen' , with more than a hint of sarcasm.


    • #13
      No Pants
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      Mena wrote: »
      He claimed 'well above average'. The poster he quoted mentioned 'outstanding citizen' , with more than a hint of sarcasm.
      Point taken. Well above average?


    • #14
      Meto
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      I have asked for a legal advice and people point of view about positive application approval and I noticed that conversation is going other way.

      Ok to completely clarify, that was drunk driving, no collision and injury...stupidity in pure form! Solicitor predicted 2 years ban max, but got 1 extra from judge.

      I apologize if I offended anyone with my sarcastic comment, but I simply hate being judged by anyone who doesn't know me at all.

      Thanks everyone for comments, some of them, answered my question. :)


    • #15
      No Pants
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      Meto wrote: »
      I simply hate being judged by anyone who doesn't know me at all.
      Now we know you're a drunk driver and can judge you as such. I'd like to think that your application is now a waste of time, but maybe others can better advise.

      Just to clarify, driving while over the limit is a crime.


    • #16
      Dandelion6
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      No Pants wrote: »
      Now we know you're a drunk driver and can judge you as such. I'd like to think that your application is now a waste of time, but maybe others can better advise.

      Others already have. Knowing it was drunk driving doesn't change my answer.


    • #17
      Santa Cruz
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      Meto wrote: »
      I have asked for a legal advice and people point of view about positive application approval and I noticed that conversation is going other way.

      Ok to completely clarify, that was drunk driving, no collision and injury...stupidity in pure form! Solicitor predicted 2 years ban max, but got 1 extra from judge.

      I apologize if I offended anyone with my sarcastic comment, but I simply hate being judged by anyone who doesn't know me at all.

      Thanks everyone for comments, some of them, answered my question. :)
      "stupidity in pure form" If that was grounds for deportation we would have no government at all in the country


    • #18
      No Pants
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      Santa Cruz wrote: »
      "stupidity in pure form" If that was grounds for deportation we would have no government at all in the country
      I think it's time we tried the Belgian approach for a bit.


    • #19
      V.W.L 11
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      No Pants wrote: »
      I think it's time we tried the Belgian approach for a bit.

      For those of us who dont know the belgian approach you might kindly explain???


    • #20
      No Pants
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      V.W.L 11 wrote: »
      For those of us who dont know the belgian approach you might kindly explain???
      Don't bother with a central government for a year or two.


    • #21
      V.W.L 11
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      No Pants wrote: »
      Don't bother with a central government for a year or two.

      Point accepted


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    • #22
      Meto
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Meto
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      OK, so just to close this topic for good. ;)

      I have been granted Irish Citizenship after about 8 months from sending in my application. :)


    • #23
      schemingbohemia
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      Excellent, congratulations.


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