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Disqualification from driving and naturalisation approval

  • 18-04-2014 09:34PM
    #1
    Meto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭


    Hi all,

    I'm going to apply for naturalisation (Irish citizenship) in coming weeks, but I've been thinking is there a point to do this in my situation, so hope anyone can clarify it for me.

    I was disqualified from driving by court back in 2008 for 3 years and I think I can't expect approval for some time, but do anyone know for how long?

    I meet all of the other requirements, so that's the only reason for refusal.

    Thanks in advance for any feedback. :)


Comments

  • #2
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    The current minister is granting naturalisation in some cases that the applicant had a conviction. It may be that the minister may postpone a decision for a period of time to see how the applicant behaves.


  • #3
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Another outstanding citizen.

    Why commit the crime in the 1st place if you wanted to become an Irish citizen?

    I believe we are too soft as our laws are also.


  • #4
    Apiarist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Meto wrote: »
    ... but I've been thinking is there a point to do this in my situation, so hope anyone can clarify it for me....

    There is a rumour that if you have been on good behaviour for the last 5 years, it should be fine. There are no guarantees. It is all down to the minister's decision in your particular case.


  • #5
    Meto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭Meto


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Another outstanding citizen.

    Why commit the crime in the 1st place if you wanted to become an Irish citizen?

    I believe we are too soft as our laws are also.

    If you really have to know I didn't have a plan to commit offence (crime sounds to serious in this case)....but anyway nobody got hurt....so that was a lesson for me.

    Outstanding citizen....educated, permanent work for last 7 years, never applied for benefits....so yes you're right....well above average! :-D


  • #6
    Dandelion6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    Own up to the conviction, apologise for it, point out that you've been on perfect behaviour since. If they have nothing else on you, you have a good chance although as stated above the Minister might defer the decision for a year or so just to make sure that you really are reformed.


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  • #7
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    To get a three year ban would indicate a serious enough incident. This would not necesarily rule your application out particularly if all other aspects of your life in Ireland are positive e.g. employment, education etc.


  • #8
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,892 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Another outstanding citizen.
    Ummm....


  • #9
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    To get a three year ban would indicate a serious enough incident. This would not necesarily rule your application out particularly if all other aspects of your life in Ireland are positive e.g. employment, education etc.

    A person can get a 4 year ban for having solpodol in your system while driving, together with evidence of impaired driving.

    The minimum drink driving for the high reading is 3 years and 4 no reading.


  • #10
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    A person can get a 4 year ban for having solpodol in your system while driving, together with evidence of impaired driving.

    The minimum drink driving for the high reading is 3 years and 4 no reading.

    He does say that "nobody got hurt" which indicates some type of collision rather than being stopped at a checkpoint. People only get the high bans when the matter is serious


  • #11
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Meto wrote: »
    Outstanding citizen....educated, permanent work for last 7 years, never applied for benefits....so yes you're right....well above average! :-D
    Nothing mentioned there is exceptional. Please describe what makes you an outstanding citizen.


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  • #12
    Mena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Mena


    No Pants wrote: »
    Nothing mentioned there is exceptional. Please describe what makes you an outstanding citizen.

    He claimed 'well above average'. The poster he quoted mentioned 'outstanding citizen' , with more than a hint of sarcasm.


  • #13
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Mena wrote: »
    He claimed 'well above average'. The poster he quoted mentioned 'outstanding citizen' , with more than a hint of sarcasm.
    Point taken. Well above average?


  • #14
    Meto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭Meto


    I have asked for a legal advice and people point of view about positive application approval and I noticed that conversation is going other way.

    Ok to completely clarify, that was drunk driving, no collision and injury...stupidity in pure form! Solicitor predicted 2 years ban max, but got 1 extra from judge.

    I apologize if I offended anyone with my sarcastic comment, but I simply hate being judged by anyone who doesn't know me at all.

    Thanks everyone for comments, some of them, answered my question. :)


  • #15
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Meto wrote: »
    I simply hate being judged by anyone who doesn't know me at all.
    Now we know you're a drunk driver and can judge you as such. I'd like to think that your application is now a waste of time, but maybe others can better advise.

    Just to clarify, driving while over the limit is a crime.


  • #16
    Dandelion6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    No Pants wrote: »
    Now we know you're a drunk driver and can judge you as such. I'd like to think that your application is now a waste of time, but maybe others can better advise.

    Others already have. Knowing it was drunk driving doesn't change my answer.


  • #17
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Meto wrote: »
    I have asked for a legal advice and people point of view about positive application approval and I noticed that conversation is going other way.

    Ok to completely clarify, that was drunk driving, no collision and injury...stupidity in pure form! Solicitor predicted 2 years ban max, but got 1 extra from judge.

    I apologize if I offended anyone with my sarcastic comment, but I simply hate being judged by anyone who doesn't know me at all.

    Thanks everyone for comments, some of them, answered my question. :)
    "stupidity in pure form" If that was grounds for deportation we would have no government at all in the country


  • #18
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    "stupidity in pure form" If that was grounds for deportation we would have no government at all in the country
    I think it's time we tried the Belgian approach for a bit.


  • #19
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    No Pants wrote: »
    I think it's time we tried the Belgian approach for a bit.

    For those of us who dont know the belgian approach you might kindly explain???


  • #20
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    V.W.L 11 wrote: »
    For those of us who dont know the belgian approach you might kindly explain???
    Don't bother with a central government for a year or two.


  • #21
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    No Pants wrote: »
    Don't bother with a central government for a year or two.

    Point accepted


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  • #22
    Meto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭Meto


    OK, so just to close this topic for good. ;)

    I have been granted Irish Citizenship after about 8 months from sending in my application. :)


  • #23
    schemingbohemia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    Excellent, congratulations.


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