Be still my beating heart

tang1 · 07-02-2015 04:51PM

You owe yourself a second!!

Mimojo · 07-02-2015 04:52PM

Not congratulating u at all....but....almost a 3 min PB on a bad day holding 8 min miles...that is some going for a bad day...just saying!!! :-)

Ososlo · 07-02-2015 05:20PM

Sorry all. I swear I'm not still sulking:D
I'll get back to yiz later. Have stuff on atm.
Thanks tang1. Saw the results there and feeling a bit better as even though they have me racing as a man:) I came 15 out of 99 women overall so not the worst day's work.
Btw, I'd recommend that race to anyone. They put on the perfect race today and I'll certainly be going back.
Really appreciate the comments everyone. Lots of food for thought. Many thanks.

Runchick · 07-02-2015 05:33PM

Can relate to the frustration in missing the 50 min 10k goal! You'll get there and it'll be all the sweeter now when you do, onwards and upwards - which it sounds like you know anyway

KielyUnusual · 07-02-2015 06:12PM

Sometimes I think it is a blessing in disguise when you have a disappointing non-goal race. It re-affirms how difficult it actually is to put in a race performance that justifies the effort you've put in, and the results you've being getting in training. The difference between a good race performance and a bad one can be that 1 or 2% bit of extra pain that you're willing to put yourself through. Just remember how disappointed you felt at the end of this race and use it in your goal race to get that tiny little bit extra out of yourself that means the difference between a mediocre performance and a great one.

Netwerk Errer · 07-02-2015 06:40PM

Good stuff O! You know you're on a big upward curve and there's more to come. I'd look at that as encouraging. There will be other races.:)

laura_ac3 · 07-02-2015 07:16PM

If this was one of the novices/graduates you'd be telling us that a near 3 minutes off a PB is not to be sniffed at. It's improvement in the right direction and that's a good thing. Maybe you'd want to do better or knock more off and that's not a bad way to be but remember the positives too. Maybe you're just lacking a bit of race practice - that was your first 10k in a while was it? More improvements to come I'm sure.

yaboya1 · 07-02-2015 07:35PM

Congrats on the PB.
Just look on it that you've left room to run another one next time

barryoneill50 · 07-02-2015 07:51PM

Sure come on down to Enniscorthy tomorrow and run a sub 48:)

Ososlo · 07-02-2015 10:26PM

annapr wrote: »

a 2 min 50 sec Pb sounds good to me! I'm trying not to congratulate you on it...

thanks annapr. Much appreciated. Well done on the first place today!!! And you were only out for a gentle stroll around the park!

adrian522 wrote: »

nearly 3 min PB? That's a win in my book, Very well done...Don't be too hard on yourself, the days you take big chunks off your PB are few and far between.

Also nice to know there is more to come at this distance.

cheers A. Too true. In a few years I'll be dreaming of taking 3 mins off my time!
Now go tear up those roads of Enniscorthy tomorrow!

beertons wrote: »

Great stuff.

thanks mate. Enjoying your log!

tang1 wrote: »

Said it to you before, you beat yourself up far to much. 2min 50sec improvement on your PB is great improvement & progression regardless who you are. Stitch got you today but you still PB'd not to shabby from what i make of it. And i'm not congratulating you.

Thanks B. Looking back on my personal race reports from when I started running, I've never been happy with any race I've done except one out of 22 races. All my race reports read 'disaster of a race today, I should give it up, what's the point....' 'not happy with that at all' 'terrible performance today' 'dreadful running, should have done better' 'terrible performance, no excuses as conditions perfect' etc etc etc... And the funny thing is that I have pb'd in every race I've done bar 3 and that was a DNF (we won't mention that one again

and a Parkrun and a race with a hangover. Maybe I have a bit of an issue there I need to address!

Ososlo · 07-02-2015 11:00PM

MKDTH wrote: »

A nice PB none the less. Out of interest, how long before the race did you eat? Did you have a banana? I'm still trying to work out what brings a stich on.

Cheers

Hope I didn't get you too late to wish you all the luck in the world for tomorrow. Bet or no bet go get the time you deserve. Your training has been great of late and that consistency will pay off big time. Enjoy the day!
I didn't have a banana no. I had a bagel with butter, half a croissant and a beet shot. 2 hours 45 mins before the race. If I ever find out the cause and cure for stitches I'll be the wealthiest woman in the world!

Murph_D wrote: »

I've had to deal with stitches too in quite a few races, to the extent that it now doesn't surprise me if it happens. I just slow a little and get through it - unless it's right at the end you can always make up the time, that's the way I look at it. Chalk it all up to experience. But I won't congratulate you either on the PB.

Yeah unfortunately it doesn't surprise me either Murph. It surprises me when it doesn't happen to be honest! I know I need to find a way to work though it going forward. I've dealt with it well in training lately so was surprised today when I let it beat me.

Ososlo · 07-02-2015 11:06PM

Dubgal72 wrote: »

I'm not going to congratulate you (I'm scared to and you're still the GM 2014 ) but I am going to give you a little shake. You held, on average, a little over 8 m/m pace for over 6 miles. Now not so long ago, 8 m/m pace was the Holy Grail for me and achieving it on a regular basis has been the icing on the cake. This is just the start of the beginning for you. Sorry about the stitch, and I know you are disappointed but feck that, I am going to congratulate you* because as everybody here has said, nearly three minutes off your PB is not to be sneezed at.
Now go break that tee totalling run

* I didn't wish you well cos of your pre-race nerves but was thinking it

Don't be scared. I'm really not that scary. In real life anyways:D

The bit in bold above that you wrote gives me heart to be honest and put me in a much better frame of mind when I read it. Thanks Dubgal! Is there any problem you can't solve???

Yes the tee totalling run is currently being blasted into oblivion.
Now go show us gals how it's done tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ososlo · 07-02-2015 11:40PM

Bungy Girl wrote: »

Ok I won't congratulate you
But a PB is a PB even if it's not the one you wanted. Just sayin'

Onwards and upwards as you said. Out of curiosity do you ever get stitches in training ?

Cheers BG. Wise words!
Yes I get stitches regularly and am fairly good at dealing with them in training of late but they do always slow me down. Very hard to get to the bottom of it. I even get them when I haven't eaten at all although this rarely happens anymore but it does now and again.

Duanington wrote: »

a near 3 minute PB ...with a stitch....and no congrats deserved? I don't get it?!?!

I'd be f*cking delirious with that kind of improvement !

Well done !!

Thanks D. yeah I gotta work on that old self depreciation.

Firedance wrote: »

+1 to all of the above, I won't congratulate you either but can I say, I think you're just super, the stitch didn't win because you didn't give up. Onwards and upwards yes, look forward to seeing your new training block.

I didn't give up but I did slow down WAY too much. I only just looked at my splits there now and the 4th and 5th miles are just embarrassing pace wise:o...
But as you say, onwards and upwards!!!

Ososlo · 07-02-2015 11:46PM

Pacing Mule wrote: »

Well I am going to congratulate you.

Fact is you've knocked out a big PB DESPITE having a bad race / stitches cause problems for you. End of the day no matter what way you look at it the race today shows the huge improvement you've made over the past year. So congratulations on that. Accept them or not - they're still coming

Thanks mate. Can't wait to see how you do tomorrow!!!! Have the race of your life!

tang1 wrote: »

You owe yourself a second!!

Ha! Are you sure it wasn't a minute?:rolleyes::)

Mimojo wrote: »

Not congratulating u at all....but....almost a 3 min PB on a bad day holding 8 min miles...that is some going for a bad day...just saying!!! :-)

Cheers Mim for the non-congratulations:D Yeah I gotta put it into perspective!

Ososlo · 07-02-2015 11:52PM

Runchick wrote: »

Can relate to the frustration in missing the 50 min 10k goal! You'll get there and it'll be all the sweeter now when you do, onwards and upwards - which it sounds like you know anyway

The A goal was WELL below 50 mins so you'll appreciate my disappointment even more;) As a wise man once said (a few mins ago actually) I'm worth way more than wot I got today.
SO happy to see your running back on track RC. That's what it's all about at the end of the day. Enjoying our running and being able to do what we do and the cherry on the cake is seeing improvements in races and paces.

KielyUnusual wrote: »

Sometimes I think it is a blessing in disguise when you have a disappointing non-goal race. It re-affirms how difficult it actually is to put in a race performance that justifies the effort you've put in, and the results you've being getting in training. The difference between a good race performance and a bad one can be that 1 or 2% bit of extra pain that you're willing to put yourself through. Just remember how disappointed you felt at the end of this race and use it in your goal race to get that tiny little bit extra out of yourself that means the difference between a mediocre performance and a great one.

wise words for one so young;)
A lot to chew on there in your post and definitely something positive to take away from this poor performance today. Thanks M:)

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

Good stuff O! You know you're on a big upward curve and there's more to come. I'd look at that as encouraging. There will be other races.:)

Yes it's going in the right direction and I guess that's all that matter.

I'm getting slowly more and more p1ssed. I hoped I'm not spouting too much rubbish!!!

It has been 22 f2cking days!!!!!!!

Ososlo · 08-02-2015 12:02AM

laura_ac3 wrote: »

If this was one of the novices/graduates you'd be telling us that a near 3 minutes off a PB is not to be sniffed at. It's improvement in the right direction and that's a good thing. Maybe you'd want to do better or knock more off and that's not a bad way to be but remember the positives too. Maybe you're just lacking a bit of race practice - that was your first 10k in a while was it? More improvements to come I'm sure.

Yes I'm a right old hypocrite Laura! You're completely right. I should listen to my own advice sometimes!
It's not long since my 5 mile race (November) and 5k (December) and I know (have seen in training) that I've improved a good bit since then and I'm capable of much better than I did today. I almost ran this time today in training a few times recently, so it's there, but I just need to pull it out of the bag in a race setting. I'll get there. Eventually!
Lovely tempo the other day btw!

yaboya1 wrote: »

Congrats on the PB.
Just look on it that you've left room to run another one next time

I've got houses full of rooms left hopefully P!!!!
Can't wait to see what you pull outa the bag tomorrow! The very best of luck!

barryoneill50 wrote: »

Sure come on down to Enniscorthy tomorrow and run a sub 48:)

Now do you REALLY think the boss man would allow that! I'm sorely tempted to give it a go though!!!!
Kill it tomorrow B!!!

RedRunner · 08-02-2015 12:20AM

You're a hard woman to please A. You're making progress. Yes you can do better, and you will, but well done this time.

I think this sums it up “Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-improving path. You know you will never get to the end of the journey. But this, so far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb.”
― Winston S. Churchill

You may be disappointed with the result, but I suspect you are still enjoying the climb!;)

Ososlo · 08-02-2015 12:21AM

hillsiderunner wrote: »

Sorry it was not under the 50mins . But you're very nearly there.... Did you give yourself enough taper do you think? (your usual mileage is pretty substantial)

Hey! Yes I did taper. I did my long run Monday, easy run Tuesday, and a cut-back strides session Wednesday and then I thought I'd try something new and not run at all for 2 days before the race so that my legs would be really fresh and raring to go for the race.
I really don't know if it had any positive or negative impact on my performance....

Ososlo · 08-02-2015 12:27AM

RedRunner wrote: »

You're a hard woman to please A. You're making progress. Yes you can do better, and you will, but well done this time.

I think this sums it up “Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-improving path. You know you will never get to the end of the journey. But this, so far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb.”
― Winston S. Churchill

You may be disappointed with the result, but I suspect you are still enjoying the climb!

not sure about the climb but I'm certainly enjoying the wine:D
Great quote! That'll be my new log title!
Cheers R. Great to see you working your way back to where you were.
btw: are all women not hard to please

:)

hillsiderunner · 08-02-2015 12:33AM

Ososlo wrote: »

Hey! Yes I did taper. I did my long run Monday, easy run Tuesday, and a cut-back strides session Wednesday and then I thought I'd try something new and not run at all for 2 days before the race so that my legs would be really fresh and raring to go for the race.

Ah well ... so not that then. Had been thinking a couple of weeks ago when you did that nice half-marathon tempo, that it must be a lot tougher to pull-off that kind of effort on 60-mile weeks.

Anyway, next time!

I really don't know if it had any positive or negative impact on my performance....

RedRunner · 08-02-2015 12:37AM

Ososlo wrote: »

not sure about the climb but I'm certainly enjoying the wine:D
Great quote! That'll be my new log title!
Cheers R. Great to see you working your way back to where you were.
btw: are all women not hard to please:)

Oh..I'm not going there!:D

Enjoy the wine.

martyboy48 · 08-02-2015 02:37AM

Look, you did great, you will see that over the next day or two when you reflect on it

I seldom get a stitch(thank god), but when I do I have no choice but to back off in what seems to be a big way.

The day you attack a race in a controlled fashion, and not get a stitch or have anything get in your way, you will think there's a mistake somewhere with such a good time

Enjoy the wine missus, congratulations

MaggotBrain · 08-02-2015 04:46AM

Sub 50s come to those who wait. Reset the no alcohol clock!

pistol_75 · 08-02-2015 11:01AM

What are you like A

Well done yesterday on the big PB. Your just getting back into racing, I found last week really hard to know what I should be doing or how I should be feeling at some parts of the race.

You know you are improving, we know you are improving, the race showed it and the progress will continue over the coming months.

Enjoy the PB's when they come because they get harder as time goes on. It seems you have left a bit of fruit on the tree for the next time anyway.

Hope the head isn't too bad this morning.

Laois_Man · 08-02-2015 11:41AM

Hey Osofast. .any idea what your March race is gonna be?

I recommend the Carlow SLOT 10K on Paddy's weekend. I'm doing that and it sounds like we'll have a fairly similar target. Race ya!!!!

Bungy Girl · 08-02-2015 06:30PM

Ososlo wrote: »

Cheers BG. Wise words!
Yes I get stitches regularly and am fairly good at dealing with them in training of late but they do always slow me down. Very hard to get to the bottom of it. I even get them when I haven't eaten at all although this rarely happens anymore but it does now and again.

Just asking because after years of suffering badly with stitches (during races particularly and occasionally in training) I realised that, for me anyway, it had very little to do with what/when I ate and more to do with breathing, posture and abominal strength (of which I had none!). I've kept a record of instances of stitches over the last couple of years (nerdy, moi?) and while there's no single thing I could point to my own feeling is that they are occuring less and less since my running form has improved and I put that down to Pilates and specific ab exercises (roll ups, oblique crunches, side and front planks). I haven't had a stitch at all since December and haven't had a killer one in over a year (i.e. one that significantly affected a race) I don't know if that's any help but I know how debilitating they can be hope there might be something in this you could look into ?

RacoonQueen · 08-02-2015 06:36PM

Do you get stitches often? Do you get them while training? Perhaps try and figure out what is causing the stitch especially if you only get it in races...perhaps its the nerves causing it.

TRR_the_turd · 08-02-2015 07:32PM

Nice seeing you again yesterday. Personally I'd never take the day before a race off. I find I feel very sluggish race day. I guess that's your first time trying it and I suppose you may not do it again. Getting to the route cause of stitches can be a bitch. I've never really suffered myself but if you're getting them in training too you should maybe document your food and see if there is a link there.

Firedance · 08-02-2015 07:45PM

in case its any use at all, and not dissimilar to Bunnygirls comments, my physio found the root of my stitches was also breathing/core related, she was able to release my diaphragm muscle which was completely tight, the difference was miraculous. Obviously stitches occur for different reasons but maybe worth checking if you haven't already.

Ososlo · 08-02-2015 08:24PM

Laois_Man wrote: »

Hey Osofast. .any idea what your March race is gonna be?

I recommend the Carlow SLOT 10K on Paddy's weekend. I'm doing that and it sounds like we'll have a fairly similar target. Race ya!!!!

Thanks for that. Will certainly consider it and see if it fits in! Hadn't heard of that race before. Thanks LM! Would be interesting to actually race someone!

Be still my beating heart

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