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The Boggers Log

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,789 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    ...Just seemed a little peculiar to me that the mile reps were getting slower while the 400's were getting slightly faster.

    I'm no coach but maybe there's your answer right there. And anyway your average was 6:04. What's the problem? :pac:

    Nice work all round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Murph_D wrote: »
    I'm no coach but maybe there's your answer right there. And anyway your average was 6:04. What's the problem? :pac:

    Nice work all round.

    Tnx Doc,

    average of 6.04 was for 1600m :)

    I think part of the issue is that after Valencia I believed that I'd see rapid improvement on the next cycle, it obviously doesn't work like that and Ecoli has provided some probably needed perspective.

    Old age doesn’t apparently confer patience. :)

    I better stop now as I'm starting to sound high maintenance even as I type....

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭FBOT01


    You need to stop reading Yaboya's log or at least acknowledge that you are giving him 10 years so everything takes a little longer;)

    Old bull, young bull....eyes on the prize:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Long run was a real slog, would have loved the company!!
    I think your mile reps are fine for what you are aiming for; if the coach gave you a pace range and you hit it (or exceeded it) then the session is succesful IMO and you should be happy.
    If your first one was too fast then don't run the first one too fast next time...leave the fancy Dan show off paces to the races. Too many people hit superhero training sessions/runs and can't reproduce that when it matters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    FBOT01 wrote: »
    You need to stop reading Yaboya's log or at least acknowledge that you are giving him 10 years so everything takes a little longer;)

    Old bull, young bull....eyes on the prize:D

    I need to stop reading your feckin log, although it doesn't look like it, I'm only giving you a few years and you're bashing out the sessions :)

    TbL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Got a massage last night and got completely battered, was very tender and was walking like a bow legged cowboy so retired to the couch rather than doing a few leg loosening miles!

    Today, the plan called for a 4 mile nursing home special. Was still a little fragile after last nights pummelling and I took this real real easy. Was a bit uncomfortable for the first few minutes and never felt like I totally loosened out. Did a few auld man saggy butt clenches and other assorted geriatric stretches.

    I also blew the cobwebs off the chin bar, I've great intentions to getting up to 10 chin ups :)

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    Got a massage last night and got completely battered, was very tender and was walking like a bow legged cowboy so retired to the couch rather than doing a few leg loosening miles!

    Today, the plan called for a 4 mile nursing home special. Was still a little fragile after last nights pummelling and I took this real real easy. Was a bit uncomfortable for the first few minutes and never felt like I totally loosened out. Did a few auld man saggy butt clenches and other assorted geriatric stretches.

    I also blew the cobwebs off the chin bar, I've great intentions to getting up to 10 chin ups :)

    TbL

    Sounds like you could do with a couple of rest days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭SamforMayo


    How many chin ups can you do at the moment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Sounds like you could do with a couple of rest days!

    Don't necessarily think its that K, I need to focus on stretching properly after runs and I seem to stiffen up a lot more during winter training. I also was a bit stiff while building up the miles during the last cycle. That said I was going to go out tonight to try and get some missed miles in but I'm gonna retire beside the fire for the evening.

    Auld age is a bitch :)

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    SamforMayo wrote: »
    How many chin ups can you do at the moment?

    None! I'm back to hanging on to the bar like a fruit bat with the shakes!

    Sounds like youre about to issue a challenge there SfM :)


    TbL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭FBOT01


    None! I'm back to hanging on to the bar like a fruit bat with the shakes!

    Sounds like youre about to issue a challenge there SfM :)


    TbL

    Just dug out the chin up bar to set you a target to aim for.....this week's target is 8. Enjoy;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    FBOT01 wrote: »
    Just dug out the chin up bar to set you a target to aim for.....this week's target is 8. Enjoy;)

    Ok, but this is like handicapped horse racing so you need to do yours with a stone bag of spuds on your back :)

    Challenge accepted!

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭FBOT01


    Ok, but this is like handicapped horse racing so you need to do yours with a stone bag of spuds on your back :)

    Challenge accepted!

    TbL

    Done!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭SamforMayo


    None! I'm back to hanging on to the bar like a fruit bat with the shakes!

    Sounds like youre about to issue a challenge there SfM :)


    TbL

    Who me! The reason I ask is I was watching a clip on utube last night of something called convict conditioning and it takes you through several stages to achieve your proper execution of a chin up ( or several other exercises for that matter). Check it out! I did nt try it myself mind you as I was balancing a cup of tea and a picnic bar at the time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Ok, but this is like handicapped horse racing so you need to do yours with a stone bag of spuds on your back :)

    Challenge accepted!

    TbL

    Are the sand bags not enough of a handicap? :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Are the sand bags not enough of a handicap? :cool:

    I presume that's aimed at FBOT!

    Good luck with the sub 29 tomorrow

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Plan today called for 8 milesessy.

    We've visitors tomorrow and I would be stretched to get the long run in so I decided to do it today. The usual Saturday scenario, I changed in the car in Spiddal and ran home.

    The run was to be 18 miles, 10 easy, 5 steady and the last
    3 at 6.55 - 7.05.

    Earlier this morning there was hardly any wind out there but by the time I started it was breezy and I had the breeze in my face the whole time.

    Easy miles ticked by handily enough (might have run them a tad quick but they fely easy), the clan passed me at mile 7 and asked me did I want a lift, didn't even feel tempted at that stage (where were they at mile 17!)

    Hit the steady pace and it felt comfortable, the last steady mile had a bit of an incline and I started to feel it pinch a bit. The 3 miles home were net uphill and I knew I'd struggle to hit the planned pace, decided I'd be happy with circa 7.15 given the drags. Didn't happen and between mile 16-17 my goose was cooked. The last uphill mile had me shuffling, and almost had me walking but I kept waddling slowly along.

    Finished with 17.91 miles @ 7.46 average.

    All the best to anyone racing tomorrow.

    Splits:

    8.16
    7.59
    8.02
    7.43
    7.47
    7.51
    7.55
    7.50
    7.54
    7.58
    7.19
    7.21
    7.21
    7.28
    7.38
    7.08
    7.40
    8.42

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Is that the main road you run TbL i.e Spiddal to Tully say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    tang1 wrote: »
    Is that the main road you run TbL i.e Spiddal to Tully say?

    Yes Tang,

    pass Tully go around Rossaveal and at the Seanadh Pheistin cross turn left and up into Carraroe. Couple of dodgy spots with cars whizzing by and its not the most sceanic but needs must and all that.! I hope to get most of the long runs over Seanadh Pheistin as its quiet and fairly hilly.

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Dodgy spots with cars is right, your taking your life into your hands on some of those roads. Great running.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    Solid run today!

    What's the plan in terms of Boston specific training?

    Hilly long runs and get the quads battered? Looks like you have pretty decent mileage up already. Where are you planning to peak?

    Or should I go to Ecoli 2's log and ask?:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    blockic wrote: »
    Solid run today!

    What's the plan in terms of Boston specific training?

    Hilly long runs and get the quads battered? Looks like you have pretty decent mileage up already. Where are you planning to peak?

    Or should I go to Ecoli 2's log and ask?:pac:

    Hey Blockic,

    Had a decent mileage week last week 60+. This week will be closer to 50 due to a missed session. I hope to hit a good few weeks north of 70, and peak at 80-90.

    Gonna use the hills of Connemara to get the hill work in, tried running faster on the downhills during last weeks LR and will progress to running PMP on the downhills.

    Ecoli also has some surprises in store for me, you can read that as hilly ball breaking sessions :)

    Might darken the door of a gym for the elderly to do some quad specific work.

    Twelve weeks to go, how you feeling?

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Just a couple of easy miles today. Legs felt surprisingly good. Horrible weather to be out in and was delighted that I'd the long run done yesterday.

    Bit of a down week mileage wise but next week we are stepping up the volume and easing off the intensity slightly. Hoping to hit 70 miles.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    Hey Blockic,

    Had a decent mileage week last week 60+. This week will be closer to 50 due to a missed session. I hope to hit a good few weeks north of 70, and peak at 80-90.

    Gonna use the hills of Connemara to get the hill work in, tried running faster on the downhills during last weeks LR and will progress to running PMP on the downhills.

    Ecoli also has some surprises in store for me, you can read that as hilly ball breaking sessions :)

    Might darken the door of a gym for the elderly to do some quad specific work.

    Twelve weeks to go, how you feeling?

    TbL

    Looks to be on point, great to have Connemara as a resource, I'm struggling to find hills, which will bite me in the ass at 19 miles for sure!

    I see you are going to try hit 70 this week, i'll be peaking at 70! Ha.

    I'd love to get more miles in but job circumstances mean that 70 will be achievement it itself!

    I'm kicking off now this week into the specific stuff, legs tired already and not even started! will give it a shot anyway, 12 week hybrid plan.. a mixture of a plan the crew I train with are using here, my own thoughts and thoughts of a couple others...

    Recipe for disaster really!:pac: But think I'm happy with what I have come up with...for now..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Plan today called for 4 miles recovery.

    Drove up to Dublin late last night and stayed in a hotel near Trinity. Was to get this done this morning but alarm never went off and I slept late. For a change I finished today at a reasonable hour and I've moved hotels to one near Stephens Green so I headed out in the last of the daylight to get this done. Headed up along the canal, the body today was the least stiff it's been in weeks and I'm not sure if that's a result of last weeks massage but I felt good and did 6 miles easy @ 8.34.

    Spent a bit more time on some auld man stretches after the run. I've another magical mystery session with Coach tomorrow and I'm always slightly apprehensive about these coz I know they're gonna hurt!

    This time 12 weeks I'll be finished in Boston!

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    SamforMayo wrote: »
    Who me! The reason I ask is I was watching a clip on utube last night of something called convict conditioning and it takes you through several stages to achieve your proper execution of a chin up ( or several other exercises for that matter). Check it out! I did nt try it myself mind you as I was balancing a cup of tea and a picnic bar at the time!

    Tnx for this SfM, it's actually quite useful, although what you're doing perusing convict sites is somewhat perturbing! Hadn't you down as one of those ladies looking for a prison pen pal :)

    I'm gonna get stuck into step 4 for a while.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭SamforMayo


    Tnx for this SfM, it's actually quite useful, although what you're doing perusing convict sites is somewhat perturbing! Hadn't you down as one of those ladies looking for a prison pen pal :)

    I'm gonna get stuck into step 4 for a while.

    TbL

    It was for educational purposes I swear! You can dedicate your first 10 chin ups to me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Today the plan called for another one of Coaches magical mystery sessions. Met up earlier this morning at the Old Mill pub near Firhouse after been re routed by google maps a couple of times!

    Was told we'd be doing a tempo run up and around the Bohernabreena reservoir and that there'd be a couple of short sharp hills. Feckin lovely!!

    Aim was to concentrate on form/effort rather than watch pace and I was told to go with the hill on the downwards sections on the way back. After a quick warm up we were off with Coach leading the way. The slight drags gave way to the first hill, I like hills but I'm usually going up them nice and cool at 8-9 min pace, and it really was an effort to keep any sort of decent pace going. The second hill is a bit sharper and the tarred surface had given way to a trail with some loose stones, was really huffin & puffin by the time we crested it. The scenery up there is class although I didn't get a chance to really appreciate it as I was carefully watching my step and trying to keep the hurtin in check.

    Once we turned I seemed to recover reasonably quickly and we quickened the pace a touch. Coach went down the first downhill like a nimble mountain goat, I had to apply the brakes a bit as I was afraid I'd lose my footing and I reached the bottom quickly followed by a mini avalanche of loose stone :)

    The second downhill was tarred and I tried to run it hard, the runners were twak twaking of the ground and it felt very ungainly. Thought we'd only a couple of hundred metres to go so I pushed it out another bit. Was fairly pissed off to see I'd misjudged the finish by about a k, and I had to dig deep to push it to the end.

    Finished with 5.4 miles @ 6.40.

    Was delighted with that run, although it was tough I "enjoyed" it and it's a fantastic place to run. Was really surprised that they weren't more runners out there.

    Finished up with a slow cd jog and a bit over 8 miles in total.

    Tempo splits

    6.53
    7.01
    6.54
    6.39
    6.10
    5.55 (the last half mile)

    Got back into Galway just after 5 pm, decided to shake the drive out of my legs got 4.13 recovery miles done @10.09

    Total for day 12.5

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    Nice work :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    I like the way your coach has radically developed your ability to not get lost!


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