Cork GAA Discussion Thread

wackokid wrote: »

I agree with Scarecrow about Andy Walsh and IMHO he will be a huge player for Cork this year. Sorry bout that TTM as I think the rest of you report is more or less spot on apart from young Peter Kelliher. I know he dropped the very 1st puck out which Collins landed on top of him and this probably dented his confidence. He's big and strong but Cork senior hurler he is not and unlikely to get to that level either. If he's too big then Lee is too small and light for senior hurling but today was the day to blood him so well done JBM. His joshling with No7 Cleary was a bit like David and Goliah but fair play to him for not standing back. He took his point nicely and never stopped looking for the ball.
How Conor O Sullivan wasn't the 1st name on Cork's team sheet last year mystifies me. The man is simply imperious in tight situations. Young Sean O Donoghue will have learned a bit about corner back play today if he had his eyes open. He will need to improve a good bit but might just do that.
Like others here I was impressed with Cahalane at the back and Luke up front so we may well trouble the big boys this year when all our other top players start.
The only negative on an otherwise nice day for Cork hurling was the time keeping. There is NO EXCUSE for the home team to be 5 minutes late for the throw in. They were down in another pitch warming up for half an hour so it wasn't as if they needed limbering up. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

willietherock wrote: »

Totally disagree on Peter Kelleher. The guy won a mountain of possession from the start. Beggars belief that he was subbed before Brian Lawton who couldn't win any ball. Kelleher needs to work on his pace and looks to me like a guy who needs as much hurling exposure as possible but has huge potential as a "workhorse" type half forward that Cork needs who won't wilt physically like a lot of the other forwards when the going gets tough.
Andy Walsh ,midfield,was excellent and probably will be tried there during the league.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'd agree

Why is lawton getting game after game after game??

A cat has only nine lives
If lawton makes league panel it's a joke
Be interesting see john horgan take Monday echo

He's loyal club man lawton fair enough no problem
He must though not let that play when he judges he's performance
We can have none of this talk he tried hard he didn't get breaks he up against good opponent

A spade must be called a spade
It'd not just myself see he's poor two posters here have agreed

I'd say willie he won too balls of that
I actually had one stage to recheck he actually started as he was no where to be seen imo

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Great win in absolutely gives us another game next week and that's three games left now Wexford, ballyhale tomorrow and now this final and I'm extremely happy with that as it lovely lead up to the league opener

Cork were good be fair but I can't believe clare strong team bar two half backs played as forward are that bad in the ist half so imo I'd not get carrid away and I think when cork play Clare league be different
With Davy hard know what he's playing at, would not suppose me if clare training last night, they train Friday nights trainings so you just don't know was there shadow boxing as likely limerick always going beat ucc and imo he doesn't want play limerick before championship
I said I though cork would have make changes ist half win, they didn't game was well over half time
Clare showed imo though huge increase intensity second half and Davy clearly has harsh words them
Soon clare upped intensity some cork lads struggled
Clare were down by twelve half time
But second half won the half and showed up lot cork players

Looseness first half out clare made some cork lads look good

The key today is imo judge each player on quality opponents he faced and judge first half and second separately
Cork won ist half handy clare had no intensity
Clare won second half eleven to eight and we're better team In that half so today we got good indication who up to senior
They imo dominated possession in that half

Collins super game, composed great see him roaring at Cahalane one stage ti pull back closer goal after twenty minutes in Cahalane was going too far out from goal
Some puck out
Mccarthy I'd sub keeper but id have no problem none at all have him sub or even start munster champions game if we had injuries
Look at he save from duggan, awesome outstanding save he is just the real deal
Look at saves minor and under twenty one v Waterford he was outstanding in saves
This Lad has been awesome so good and will be so good I'd actually have him on panel and cork has three goalies before panel I'd have him league
This Lad is going be among greatest greatest cork goalie along other greats
I'm lost for words for him
What a player
Oh my god he's awesome

Conor Sullivan had great game on he's man he was fine
Held tots well

Cork have corner backs they don't need likes will Kearney on panel

Cahalane was brilliant on cunningham, passed ist test well but he's more prove but today done well
It's relief and tomorrow play Joyce v ballyhale as cork must have cover in full back
O donoughge done very well young minor showed well all competition but cork have others ahead corner back but id defo watch him future but leave him under twenty football for spring no need have him league panel imo
I think he held he's man from play free

Sullivan got point ist half looked good as clare were poor , golden believe is half back that played half forward
So he was up against a man out of positions

Exposed defending second half not as keep saying this level
To say he played well imo no he didn't when the heat was on and conceded scores to a forward converted defender

Lorchan has great game with duggan, bar duggan goal chance but Lorchan was fine with imo considering two backs beside him struggled
And duggan picked off scores
Ellis helped him hugely when he came on

O Connor is tough and fine hurler and was fine ist half but clearly struggled second half and he'll get burned in croke park pace wise imo
He was up against another half back converted forward

Walsh was okay but hardly great
He did not play very well in fact when intensity was upped considerably by clare he was lacking imo
Bulger had too much hurling for him and got threw point could have had more for poor wides

Murray trade mark point but he was poor had be taken off again as imo he's no where near this level
Ryan had he's number and got two points

He's has enough chances now I'm sorry
I though clare won midfield battle over all

Cian maccarthy frees fine got few from play won ball but slow winter hurling fine but again mobility at times showed up be poor
Won't do summer hurling

Frees he was brilliant I'm sure he'll get plaudits but imo more to a game that frees

Lawton truly awful imo
One point lad making claim not good enough
Dayne lee as young lad just third game got point so did o Connor
See my point lawton should be doing more but isn't

I'm sorry now lads and this may offend the Castlemartyr boys but I genuinely don't want to but on field play he was poor but why does he get game after game after game
Cork hurling is not a charity
He tries, fine club player but today was poor and not good enough
Kelleher fine game in air, has potential, not scoring forward but has lot work too do improve hurling finese
He's powerful and not afraid break tackle
I'd like see him choose code
I'f commits hurling could make it
Moylan had good game, nice scores worked hard
Luke the best news day with Cahalane
I always said he had talent and huge fan but said last year before injury needed stop doing media interview, get ruthless executions back of goals and not points and become player could be

Injury terrible blow him but he's actually become better players as absenteeism made heart grow fonder
He now realises he's down pecking order rather certain starter with bout five ahead him start up year but he's really imo played himself to start v kilkenny and he must start ahead of horgan

Today he could have had four goals
He went for goals
Great see cork this year becoming kilkenny forward animal going for goals
He's ist goal was awesome brilliant goal
He's second showed he's skill hurling
He's confidence players start him, he needs games and tell him go for goals I won't blame lad missing them once goes for then he's still will mean he'll score more than he's misses
He was luke old today, Luke that win awesome high ball v limerick under twenty one bellowed the net four years ago
He had tough opponents In duggan but score two goals is no mean feat He got it tough from duggan but he gave as good as he got

Welcome back Luke, that's the Luke we want
Now he should stay away media, forget bout them learn from before, one focus to get start in full forward line as tough competition and he needs full focus in that
At last real real competition in full forward with Moylan cadogan Spillane, horgan, Luke. Cronin paudie etc

Darren McCarthy got early point but overall today he proved he was not good overall and he's proved what I believed all along not senior inter county forward
All names I mentioned are better than him

Subs

Ellis made huge difference when he came on
Lee showed lovely touch and work rate has make league panel if available lovely point
Haughney be fair better than Murray, got point he does, but imo clare dominated second half that aera
If cork think he's answer then start him v kilkenny, only one way to find out
He does it that game then I'll say yes he deserves a chance
Frahill o Connor good points as sub don't think he'll make it but same time jusr few games so I'd have him before lawton and cian mac any and every day week

Limerick in the final cork will win that if they want to

Good test physical wise for kilkenny game as limerick will play their strengths hit everything that moves and if it doesn't they will make it move, full gutsy bravado hurling and passion and pride and as said last week wanted limerick as good test for kilkenny physically wise
Limerick won't test cork tactically though like kilkenny
They with full strength team looking at limerick thread barely scraped past ucc
Looking at that limerick team so predictable when rest are available easy know what they will start with in summer
That game is likely to be mallow or kilmmallock next week
Cork have game v Wexford on Saturday in cit hopefully limerick game played same day if in cork
Cork should field two teams for that if it'd in limerick may have rearrange

Overall good to win, extra game, good test in seconds half as it showed up the players that can make it and won't imo but don't be fooled by clare ist half
They were different animal in the second half lots wides and will change team for senior league game so cork will have to do the same
But it'd good to beat them as time two year ago they beat us in almost any match we have now beaten them the last two
Good day once lessons are learned and the players that are not up to it are dropped from the panel
There's an all Ireland to be one so sorry sounds blunt but let's leave emotions out of it
Tomorrow should be good test
I'm hoping make it seems game is going ahead

Cork should win next week and set out to win as treat league seriously aim to win it
Taper off after beating Waterford(this is not arrogance rather than imo logical belive cork are way ahead Waterford at present and Waterford are going back wards under the current set up) then in munster final isn't worth winning
Start again from all Ireland quatre final
Marked difference cork this year to last year same time which is great to see
Real competition now for places
I'll be talking lads who went match v limerick later so I'll post on cork lads with ucc today when I hear how they got on

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

See that my worries cork half back line were up against two converted wing backs and struggled at times

letowski wrote: »

True but Joyce and McLoughlin are very good starters anyway. They are balanced well then with Ellis in the center. I wouldn't expect this line to be a weak line come championship. Having options is important fair enough.