The Jobbridge Scandal

Assistant Policy Analyst - Department of Jobs, Enterprise & Innovation

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=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

Great way to create jobs alright. Unpaid jobs.

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/instructors-on-jobseeker-schemes-were-jobbridge-interns-audit-1.2070351



They are still making this three in five nonsense up.

Here is the report.
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welfare.ie%2Fen%2Fdownloads%2FJobBridge%2FIndecon-Report.pdf&ei=6DuIVOiHMIL2UrT9gdAL&usg=AFQjCNG3UVhwD9H8LZTq_7qMY7sDTxZKUg&sig2=epHBFuvmcTCCSd6k-boBFg&bvm=bv.81456516,d.d24


12,560 internships

1,376 kept the job after.

10.9 %

Where did you get the 1,376 figure? I cant seem to find it in the pdf link.

We all know companies have been taking interns rather than getting a qualified person that they would have to pay a wage to. The latest in taking people who are not qualified to teach and have a very basic knowledge of a particular subject, to then teach others who are not qualified, takes it to a different level. To teach anything, your level of knowledge has to be well beyond the level you are teaching at, not at the same level. If they are going to have unqualified, inexperienced people teaching, why not just put all the students in a room and do a sort of co-operation where everyone teaches the little bit they know to everyone else and have no teacher whatsoever? Next, the department of education will be replacing teachers with 5 year olds to teach junior infants.

Going Strong wrote: »

A friend of mine was called in last Spring for an interview at his local FAS office. On hearing that he'd done a back to work course the year before, the interviewer tried to get him to become a trainer on a similar course. He was taken aback by this and asked shouldn't he have qualifications or what have you to be told "Ah, are you sure? It's easy enough to do." He said no thanks and took a place on an IT course instead.

I know of someone who went looking for a particular IT course, but were offered a completely different one and told by the FÁS person that all IT courses are the same. That's years ago. People offering courses should have a good knowledge of what they are offering and the differences between them.

Any way of getting him off her list and boosting the statistics, that is all they care about.

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Here is the breakdown

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93386051&postcount=4169

Thank you Mr. Incognito.

I think I was one of the first people who started JB back when it just came out. I jumped on it as soon as I saw it, which is probably why I managed to score a nice place.
I was already on these SW yellow dockets they had for some time, since my contract was cut in hours twice in my previous position in retail, so I was allowed to apply. Don't remember 100%, but I think I was told to leave my job for certain amount of time, before the company could send me out the contract, to meet all the JB criteria.
I was on my last year of part time Bc. Business Degree, with my Ordinary Bc. papers on hand, so luckily I found a position and a company that looked after me well.
The only problem was that I was told that there is no position there for me at the end of the internship, but since the company is so big, I should network as much as possible, which I did.
I found a full-time paying graduate position in a different department in 8 months, before my internship end, sine I managed to network with a lot of managers and team leaders using my internship role.

This is just a small success story in the sea of grief.

Some things that bothered me were:

-Sometime after 2/3 months of work, I was already set targets, and had to write reports and go to meetings with the manager if I didn't meet them (not enough training imo).
-I had to work in more than one location, so 50 euro was nto enough to cover the travel.
-I was working FT hours while getting paid in theory by the SW about €4.5 p/h which is bellow minimum wage. Since I was getting paid x2.5 time that in retail, it made me very frustrated.
-After I left there was a girl who replaced me on the same position on JB. Although I like my current role now (moved 1 more time to a different department from graduate role), I found it strange that if there is no position after my internship, why is there need to keep taking on interns to do the role in that dept.

pharmaton wrote: »

I got a small but very welcomed form of relief from my internship today in that I've managed to win the opportunity to stay in the department I'm currently working in for the remainder of my placement. I've been in five different departments in total and its been hugely stressful constantly moving around, never the chance to settle or gain any sense of stability or routine.
I see the next three months as the opportunity to recover and reclaim the confidence I've lost over the last six months and now that I have a set pace, might be able to eat and sleep a bit better. It's three months where I no longer have to focus on trying to adjust to another role and that's comes with a huge sense of relief. I feel like a giant weight has been lifted from my shoulders and I can relax for the first time in ages. Might just be enough space in my head to start planning for a better brighter future now

That's interesting Pharmaton, a lot of large organisations design internships so the intern moves sections or departments, so both they and the host organisation can see where their interests and skills lie. They see it as positive and beneficial. I would be the link person in my department, and I will certainly bear your experience in mind. Hope the rest of your internship goes well, and leads to something .

These schemes are meant to build confidence by getting people out working.

But by their very nature they do the opposite. They devalue and grind people down.

Peoples time and labour are worth-less.