Cork GAA Discussion Thread

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Since 1957

Hope cork media mention this tomorrow
No cherry picking please

Fair play Cuthbhert two football records in defeat some achievements with golden generation cork football
They say it comes in threes then

Since 1960

if waterford wanted to be , they could eaisly be the best team in division 4 and as good as clare or tipp, i dont think there as bad as made out ,but i do get the feeling though that the support for cork football is not really there anymore at both county board level or supporter level?,

there dose seem to be a lack of interest though is that down to culbert ( bad magement) or lack of support in favor of hurling ,

i dont think clare would beat cork come june i think our main objective would be the league plus we have a very young team most still under the age of 22 or 23

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/rebels-rocked-as-deise-make-history-307617.html

Nothing changes

He blames donnacha for missing free says he normally get those we be extra time

Was he actually watching the game???


Does not he not actually have the football intelligence to actually realise much better team won outscored cork five to one from play and it would been injustice draw the game

Well done Brian blame players

Has anyone in cork the honesty or decenty to say you picked team Brian and. Bar six lads you actually played rest out of positions and those you did play were not anywhere near this level and has numerous games showed that

He blames players


Will he actually be humble enough and loose he's football ego and be like Jim gavin eammon Ryan jbm to admit they make mistakes rathee blame others


Will he actually be question by any journalists regards he's selection policy or he's lack defenders in subs just one defender names I said this Thursday

Will he actually be questions why he has no football coach
This manager blames everybody bar himself but never questioned by cork or national media who imo make themselves look poor as there loyal support him is actually been shown incorrect and when things get worse they will make no mistake they will have facts staring them face this was bad but we never questioned it but just went with status quo

I can't believe the quiteness from ex players regards the set up and any fan knows problems went on last this year yet not dicky board about it or results are not questions

The cultural attitude cork football imo is absolutely disgusting to the core,same old old


I wanted cork equalise yesterday but I'm actually glad they didn't now looking back at draw be worst thing ever for cork football as they would cover themselves glory with the draw

Cork football has reached an all time low in yet mcgrath cup game in January

Westmeath sacked bealin for poor results imo only one way forward

Get a coach is difficult imo as any top football coach would stay clear this set up
Thank Brian for commitment and passion no doubt he has that no body doubts it
But sack him and appointment clearly wants it if not appoint tony leahy with ned English as coach
The only way forward now is imo sack Cuthbhert
League disaster waiting happen can't wait as be relegated then and you can't start championship with new manager a month in

No one individual own cork football as bob Ryan preached cork

Your right bob


Brian has he chance to the ticket for the wille wonka factory, he's golden ticket in Cuthbhert words from that interview in may


Sorry now but that chocolate imo has melted long time ago and created one woeful mess of cork football
Cuthbhert said performance was worst in while


Sorry now it wasn't one off

Mayo was but course he clung moral victory and tipp last week no score half football but individual brilliance both games donnacha the man he criticism for missing the free saved cork and individual brilliance Walsh saved cork v tipp


Results league were actually poor last year I'f they look at them with realism correlated to face value on each game


He's interview with respect are actually pathetic for senior manager cork

He's run with hair chase hound unreal

Just Wednesday in southern star he said cork were heading towards where they wanted be

Now he admits at last were long way off where he wants us be

How did it change in five days??

Simple really cork werenever heading right place from start when he said it during mid week


So we're facing Dublin were training hard last twelve weeks and we're long way off where we want be, what a complete and utter joke imo cork football has become

Cuthbert bashing has started early I see.

willietherock wrote: »

Hammies v ASR in Mallow tomorrow. Anyone know what time will the pitch inspection be at/ will we know if this is being played?

Game going ahead I'll post update at half time and full

Inspection in mallow, match changed to 3 pm in Mallow and if mallow unplayable then changes to charleville at 3

Ard Scoil and Hamilton meet in the. 2015 Harty Cup quater final in charville ,on the 19th January at 3 the third time both teams have played each other in the Harty this the 1st time was in the Mallow venue in the Autumn  2013 and the North Ciruclar Road team were victourious on a score line of 4-20 to 3-14,second time In quatre again in Mallow 2014 they lost and now the quater final again

They have history In they met mallow In autumn 2013 first group game in Mallow and Ard scoil won it handy
That was the day Michael cahalane scored an awesome goal from over strike I remember posting then that game saying he was one to watch for cork and cork should bring him to the senior team
They did

Later on I'n 2014 they met in the quater final and Ard scoil won in heavy rain and a huge wind game should been called off imo but big score line flattered Ard scoil in they were given a real game but playing with the wind in the ist half they built up a lead and Hamilton are not set up to chase a game and two fortiois goals gave them bigger margin of victory

For hammies will it be a case of third time lucky or defeat comes in threes

ARD SCOIL RIS HISTORY:

Ard Scoil ,are all boys secondary school in the heart of the Treaty county ,on the North Circular Road , in existence since 1963 and from around 50 students at the start  ,it has now over 700,and have became a powerhouse in Rubgy and GAA,and it has had distinquished rubgy men like Paul O Connell who was a Munster Heinken Cup Winner,Lions Test Series Winner and Former Series Captain,Grand Slam Winner,and Captain of Ireland.
Current Munster and Ireland Rubgy Internationals  David Kilycoyne ,and Leinster and Current Irish International Sean Cronin are also past pubils that graced there corridoors,but have excelled in there chosen sport.

Sam Lynch the Irish Rower and a World Champion with Ireland went to the school.

In GAA many former Clare and Limerick Intercounty stars went to the school such as Nicky O'Connell,Darach Honan(mother is a Cork woman),Cathal Mclirnery(joint captain when they won the Harty in 2010,and Kevin Downes,Declan Hannon,Adrian Breen ,(UCC,suprise ommisson from the senior intercounty set up)Seamus Dowling,and Niall Moran .

It is not just Sport the school is known for ,but Pat Cox, former President of the European Parliment ,was a former pupil,and renowend debater also went there.
If you want an entertainment link with the school ,look no further than,Dave Chambers and Bob Mcglynn ,of Rubberbandits fame ,as they are  past pupils.They are  trying to become the first Limerick school since CBS Sexton Street brought an All Ireland Title at senior schools back to Limerick in 1966 and it remains more a question of when,rather than if,that they accomplish that feat.The young Cork hurlers in 1966,were not the only boys that became men.That school are the only school,in Limerick that won a Croke cup,they won it in 1964 also.

Corks schools have won the Croke Cup14 times.In the Harty Cup just 3 Limerick schools have won it ,CBS Sexton Street ,have 10 Harty's ,and St .Munchins have just the 1.

Cork schools between ,St .Finbarrs Franfrerris (current Hamilton selector Noel Crowley won a Harty with them and would have learned under the expertise tulage of there Coach the Great Canon Michael O Brien,)North Mon,St Colmans,Midelton, Chriost Ri,and Cholaiste Iognaid RIS,they have over 40 titles and if Hammies were to win one,they would form a "Magnificent 7"in Cork schools that won the famous Harty Cup.

A bit like the spider that could not get up the wall.He may fall down repeatedly ,but he never stops trying,and eventually he finds a way.A bit like that spider,Ard Scoil won't give up ,and it is just a matter of time ,before the Dr.Croke Cup is resting at Ard Scoil.

And "Time" has been the storyline of Ard scoil,it has not been a case that many believe in that,the pick of talent between Limerick and Clare is put together,for instant success.Far from it.The foundations since 2002,have been laid and great work by the likes of Cormarc Bonnar of Tippereary,Liam Kennedy,Derek Larkin of Offaly, , Liam Cronin,Niall Crowe, Fergal Lyons ( a Cork man)and Pat Tobin , Victor Leydon,Tom Hennessy,Colm Honan (father of Clare player Darach), ,Jimmy Browne(expierence with Clare minors and u21 and LIT, Natal O’Grady and Joe Hannon (father of  Declan) among may others  at various times have all helped the school at various stages make good progress.

Niall Moran ,got involved in the mid 200O's and introduced modern training,recovery sessions,nutrition,post match video anayalis,tactial awareness and it benfited them greatly.

Of course they got money inputed in  to them from the Limerick and Clare County boards, and  the Limerick Supporters Club in Dublin and that is of mutal benefit ,there are players from both counties involved,so they will reap what Ard Scoil sow.

They also got  help from the various GAA boards in Limerick and  John Lyons of Supermacs down the years. They have been given the provison of use of facilties for use in many grounds,Meelick,LIT and Ul's superb North Campus complex,to name but a few,and combined with the huge support of parents ,they have and continue to build something special in Hurling.The money as it inevitably does made a difference,but it could not have helped,unless like the change in Dublin Hurling,it needed the "Will of the people involved"and it had that in abundance.

They are the only Munster school to compete in all A grades at u14,15 etc up along,and on any academic year they could have up to 14 teams in competition.

They learned the hard way,lost there 1st Dean Ryan Cup in 2005,won the Dean Ryan in 2008 and then decided to enter the Harty Cup in 2007, and  won the 1st one in 2010.They lost a Thriller of a Dean Ryan Cup to Midelton this year by a point,in a match they could easily of won.Just like the Dean Ryan 2005 loss did not set them back,the 2013 loss is unlikey to do so also.
The next generation of Ard scoil Harty Cup teams are already  taking shape on the production line.

Again there is a structure and organistion to everything they do ,and a clear path to Glory lined out.The school has a vision,and have  the teaching and coaching staff to implement it,along with the talent to cultivate there dreams in to reality.They then won two succesive Harty cups in 2010 and 2011,two White Cups (u15)and won and u14 All Ireland in the last few years.

In essence,everyone from the teachers,to the coaches,to the county boards,the sponsor,the parents and most importanly the players themselves have turned Ard Scoil  from a minnows competing in B Hurling in to a Powerful and Significance force"in terms of competing and winning regulary at the elite level of Senior Schools Hurling,the Harty Cup.And the school is a credit to both Limerick and Clare Hurling and all involved with them.

HAMILTON HIGH'S HISTORY:
The school is an all boys Catholic Secondary school situated North of the River in Bandon .It is a privately owned school and it was founded by Sean Hamilton and the a Limerick man Patrick Cahill.It is owned to this day by Sean's son,Padraig Hamilton ,and is very much in line with the traditions and foundations it was built on.Sean Hamilton,was a great man,and is known to have cycled from Bandon to Cork City ,to school every day ,hail,rain or snow,as a young scholar go to school in Cork.He done it the hard way,and like this present new generation,no obstacle is ever too big for them,they just get on with it,and as seen as seen in last years Cork Colleges which they won in hugely convincing style ,and the Harty Cup ,when the odds are against them ,they like the founder of the school,always had the endurance,stamina ,and determination to reach there goal ,no matter how long or diffcult or ardourous that journey is.

The school has around 375 pupils and has  7 teams involved GAA across different levels , and are already in a Munster B final in football,with many duals players on both teams.Noel Crowley ,GDO with the Cork County board has done fantastic work with them,and so too has Aidan O Donuguhe.They get there players mainly from Valley Rovers,Bandon,Newcestown,and Courcey Rovers .

They wouldn't have the financial rescources of Ard Scoil.
They don't use that as an excuse not to succeed.In fact,former Prinicipal ,and coach of the Hurling teams,Kerry man ,Jim Costello said once ,that what makes the school so succesful ,is there is very little"Dont's"in the way of school life ,and there ethos is much in line with giving the students the freedom and trust to do things themselves .

For such young lads ,that is paying of ,and that ethos is very much in line with the way they play the game,they are not afraid to play themselves out of trouble at the back ,and play with a smile and freedom and fluency like they do ,that the postive ethos they have always enables them to look forward and embrace and relish a challenge,instead of  playing with fear and not being as succesful.
Outside pundit doubt them v Ard scoil, I have concerns my self but nobody in school does and it's not arrogance but there like munster they truly believe they will win any challenge that come their way

Famous past pupils ,are the legendary GAA journalist ,Con Houinhan,former Cork hurling captain Pat Kenneally ,and former Cork Senior football Captain and current Cork Senior selector Owen Sexton.

Judge Con Murphy,who has a Cup presented in he's honour ,to the winners of the Junior A Hurling league in Cork GAA is also a past pupil.

Most notably more famous in Football,in that they won a load of Munster B,and C competions down the years and two All ireland a  B football title in 1975 and a C title in  2007,Hurling is now far from the poor relation.They have won Munster Senior C hurling titles,B U 16 title,u15 C ,but never won in the A grade,and from 1995 up to last year,never entered it ,but in the second year back,became the 1st school from West Cork to advance to a Harty Cup Quater Final.

In 2012/2013 they won there 1st match 1-18 to 3-10 against Chriost Ri,beaten by just 3 points to quater finalists Midelton,drew with the defending champions Nenagh .They are not satsified to rest on there laurels,onwards and upwards they remain.

THE FORM GUIDE OF BOTH TEAMS:

Hamilton have goals in them, 13 in four games is some record.
Last year they had Michael cahalane as main scoring threat, this year more balance up front in scoring in eoin reilly and cathal dinnen and Colm maguire and aron lyons who got three goals Last year against Cashel In munster b under sixteen is a sub

Luke meade and Chris o leary and Jonathan mulchay well able to score also
The match up will be crucial.
It's a strong Ard scoil and when the draw was made I said it was a huge huge ask for them but with all ireland starter peter casey out, ronan lynch the heart beat of the team and five years expierence harty cup if plays must be doubts as has back injury the tide has changed and while Ard scoil regular I'n knock out stages last eight years will be favourites I give hammies a huge huge chance now
Ard scoil have beaten just once since 2010 up to semi finals of the harty cup so they have traditional

Hamilton have scored 13--52 only Thurles have a higher scoring target The problem has been conceded 5-58 out of all quatre finalist even worst than nenagh
The full back line has fine hurling but as a unit it concedes way too much

Ard scoil haven't had huge scoring 5-67 but concedes only 5-43 on the other hand.
Peter casey if he's out is huge huge loss
Who will start??
Imo between David Fitzgerald clonlra or Kevin Howard, i have a feel Howard will start and he can score goals and points one two v flannans
Conor houlilan limerick under sixteen last year is super forward or even goal keeper but he's likely start half back.
I'f so huge bonus to Hamilton
This may not happen

Sean phelan is a good full back but I'd be inclined to put eoin reilly on him
There's goals for hammies inside but o reilly stays out field guaranteed niall moran, cork man fergal lyons will close down middle third so best option I'd hammies play a sweeper and leave two man full forward line inside with Colm dinneen and o reilly

Now o reilly has been sensational at centre forward no doubt and old thought is don't change what not broken
From centre forward he got 5-22 in four games.

He's record in each game

Hammies 2-6 dungarvan 4f
Around 2-4 v clonmel or more
1-6 v nenagh 3 f
Midelton 6 4f
Hammies can say we wont change as o reilly Is brilliant.
I'd be inclined to change simply as moran and lyons have been here before so they know too well about o reilly and have proven down year always get tactical battle right and will if fit have lynch on him or Thomas grimes limerick minor
There brilliant hurling

O reilly needs be watches so you force Ard scoil top play on your terms in if leave hogan inside that is fine, there's goals inside but if grimes or lynch drop back to mark him the centre is not as strong
O reilly actually played corner forward v dungarvan getting 2-2 from play
Even one goal could be crucial In a game where weather will be brutal

Ard scoil half back line of houlilan, grimes and clare Nathan fox if he starts is strong but not the strongest around, and it's imperative that Hamilton don't have o reilly there if likes grimes or lynch start there as a unit O reilly won't get space on middle third but will at full forward line

I'd be lining up half forward line of daire Curran, Sean o Donovan out from full forward, cathal maguire with tomas sheehan defending starting at fifteen but playing as deeper sweeper around full back line in corner o Sullivan cork role just above full back line as he does and allow Chris o leary to leas from centre back and not drop to full as I thought about o leary dropped back but he's so good has be centre back



Long high ball down on half back line is Meat and drink to Ard scoil. Got to be short passing at low trajectory speed, and play width of the pitch so they can take on their men
Ard scoil half back line fine on high ball but not as good on turn and that include lynch also
He will sweep all day but you bypass he's influence to do that require thought,planning and execution of excellence where keeper cathal o flynn will have a huge bearing on the game in he's got to be always accurate with short puck outs, very fast when ball is hit wide or over to restart the game and half forwards and half backs for hammies got to be moving and running different angles before flynn even starts he's run imo as Ard scoil will try and box them up in a zonal defending way, key hammies make it one v one
Prime example this used effective was five minutes to go Ag v Thurles Ag concedes a wide, dayne lee ran back to o connell screamed fast ball, twas given to him on the wing, he had strength and pace to beat he's opponent and then ran forty yards and was fouled
Luke meade will be like lorchan mcloughlin for corl, first receiver on puck outs like lorchan was last year on short one for cork
Dry day will suit hammies


Up to the likes of o leary and o brien also to be moving as moran won't be long sending man on meade
It'd easy stop individuals but if you have a perfected system in play very hard to break it down and winter hurtling orthodox way won't always win

Curran and Donovan should be able to win high ball when thry do mix it but the likes of mulchay expierence from last year will be huge importance in breaking ball and use of possession in when to run hard create off loads or when to deliver ball fast to the forwards
Key in wind is low low ball
I expect wind in charville but not as bad as mallow



If you have runners and not just spacial awareness but actually movment in to space off the ball your can deliver low ball without it being intercepted

Midfield will be key in on their puck outs and outside the puck outs for cork senior luke meade and Jonathan mulchay

I would have luke filling just above he's half back line below midfield and in sweeping role and he's has engine to run and stamina to Last the pace.
Hes senior cork player so he's confidence is sky high

The space he leaves st midfield will be filled by Curran dropping back there at times

The Ard scoil half forward line mulchay, limerick likely minors mackey and loughlin is good but I think mackey only stand out there
Chris o leary needs to play at six and control the tempo and he's wonderful captain and I said here last year huge fan this lad imo exceptional centre back unlucky not make final cut after being on panel for cork minors but I remember v dungarvan in wind and rain in Mallow last year on the quater final and he made awesome hook dying minutes save certainly a goal in he's own full back line and shows imo the leadership, skill and stamina he has
He has to be centre back for cork minors and when you keep likes bride senior hurling star shane walsh off you must be special hurler

He can clean up ball and if he has the wind and it's not swirling strike form long distance

James kelleher who was under sixteen last year and half in b competition has been outstanding all year and with o leary and eoin brien on other side that's a solid half back line
I would keep Chris here as you don't want to disrupt the half back line and do what Ag did last week which was imo complete baffling change all spine their team central position

Ronan lynch if he plays centre back I'd be not too worried in once hammies keep o reilly at full forward
If lynch starts midfield, the option is to move Chris with him but I just feel now conditions changed and once midfield sera is swarmed by likes Curran help mulchay and meade I'd nearly leave Chris at six
If mulchay has difficult with lynch it won't take long to see all you then you act fast
You put meade on him and put mulchay in meade deeper role above half back and between midfield
If gillane limerick minor last year starts in midfield they will be strong I'f lynch starts also there
Its hard to know how Ard scoil will start as they have so many options



Full back line is my worry and I don't think any individual's will solve it now so imo that's why I belive hammies have be systemic and close down space by weight numbers in key areas
Hammies have in the unit fine hurlers individually imo but as a unit it's not been great
They have conceded huge scores like nenagh and nenagh we saw what happened last week
If they have plan to tighten this up they can win it imo


Andy Haydon got two one for nenagh v hammies and he's as mentioned before lightening full forward
Conor boylan or Howard or casey or Fitzgerald depending who start will do like wise if allowed
Joe o mahony imo is best man marker defending in that unit should take casey if he starts or else boylan
In fairness to Aidan o donughe a brilliant coach he has seen there's an issue at full back and changed it by putting last year under sixteen full back William hurley who played corner all year but actually has expierence at full back where he played last year in munster under sixteen competition
He's flanked by Murray but the key is going to be the cut and limit any fast ball supply in to the full forward line and that player imo tomas o sheehan is well able to do it, outstanding young prospect and centre back last year under sixteen and a half and he got a half v dungarvan so he's got game time

This is imo a far cry from like Ag starting morrisey who was just fifteen, sheehan is older but he'll be playing a free role than a man marking role and he can imo be a success at it

I think hammies have a good bench too I'n the likes of callaghan as a defender, twohig a defender, aron lyons a very good forward and Tadhg o Sullivan who got three points the last day from centre forward as a sub can if needed all do a job so they have imo depth in the panel

Fergal horgan referee good referee allows game flow and seen good counsel v Athenry in all ireland under sixteen semi final and he allowed brilliant game and seen him do harty cup games and Ard scoil v Hamilton last year he done I think but also done dungarvan game so bit like munster nigel Owen Hamilton know what to expect with he's style

A close game to call and I think niall moran talking up hammies being favourite and Ard scoil more less huge under dog bit mind games
Ard scoil got to be favourites but with doubts on fit lynch, casey also I belive in Aidan o donughe and crowley who would learned immensely from noel crowley last year and imo will get tactical side right as against midelton were being well beaten but shrewd out players sweeper after twenty five minutes so they have a chance and last year I went against pundit popular thought and said hammies beat dungarvan I'm going to take chance and be brave and say they will win it
Moran, flangan clare under twenty one captain   fergal lyons, and hennesy kilmallock keeper' make up the back room team at Ard scoil and imo Ard scoil have better senior management overall than some senior hurling teams so they will be well coached but once thry get good start and hopefully have the wind in the ist half the courage, Grit. Never beaten attitude, Huge heart from the school I always said the small school with the big heart I'd think they can do it
As hammies have hurling in spades also
This could be a great game and could be a tactical battle

But popular view is Ard scoil to win

Best of luck to hammies
The school in three years have made knock outs stages last two years and are great ambassador for cork hurling and cork should be so so proud of this wonderful school

when done this earlier last week there was huge doubts over lunch and casey
This extra five days could mean lynch is recovered fully and casey also so they may start.
Word now is they will start, no one knows for definite

Can't wait for this game

denishurley wrote: »

Only a small thing TTM but Con Houlihan taught at the Hammies rather than attending it as a pupil.

Brian Crowley MEP is probably the most famous non-sporting past pupil.

Apologies Denis
Thank for that

Brian crowley a man fought huge challenges in he's life came through other side another inspiration to the school

Would you give them chance Denis today?

denishurley wrote: »

Definitely, I'd make Ardscoil marginal favourites but I think the bookies are going a bit too much on last year despite the fact the teams have changed a lot

Talk is lynch may start??

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Same old posts I see

Cuthbhert is being judged cork senior football manager based on results

I'f you can tell fans why not criticseed him please do so if you can to debate

What has Cuthbert done improve cork football since he was manger??
Thanks in advance

It's only January that's why, if it was in Munster fair enough .cork won it last year and you were still giving out you don't like Cuthbert because he is a frank man so is jbm but there is nothing said there .cuthbert should be judged on this year's championship not a mickey mouse cup in January.

solwhit12 wrote: »

It's only January that's why, if it was in Munster fair enough .cork won it last year and you were still giving out you don't like Cuthbert because he is a frank man so is jbm but there is nothing said there .cuthbert should be judged on this year's championship not a mickey mouse cup in January.

And riddle me does last years championship not count at all in your mind? was sunday just another indication of the decline in this team with this man involved? most keen observers would say of course. However lets wait even longer, shur theres always next year ffs man
This attitude of always waiting is why cork is such a great underachieving county in GAA terms. One all Ireland football title every 20-30 years with our playing resources is an absolute DISGRACE. putting a man in charge of this team with NO record of achievement whatsoever in football is as big a DISGRACE.

Utterly utterly baffling view with respect your  are just my opinion of course

Jbm is or not a frank man in he's he's idolised by Frank and worshiped by franks disciples buy don't blame jbm jbm is one those few in sport that has no enemies loved adorned by all
Jbm Brough in landers who frank doesn't like as probed by not getting minors job and ring had bring landers in

Your wrong regards cork history so look I'll self educate you

Landers was told over he's stance ist strike by John Meyer hlgood coach but loyal frank man take one look around pairc you will never see it again as players for role in strike

Frank overlooked Cunningham for cork job twice over loyalty cork strike players but jbm made it clear wanted cunning as coach or he would not take job

Cunninghsm jbm have history but he brought him in as knew befit cork
Jbm refuses take under twenty one job in 2011 over wasn't allowed by Frank pick he's own selectors

Some yes man jbm is alright

What a clue less statement jbm a frank man, he stood up frank many times and frank won't go against jbm I'm straw break camels bsck as most loyal frank fan club wouldn't be happy as everybody loved jbm

Cuthbhert your hero well done, your great judge manager yes I'd say Cuthbhert is yes man as your may not be aware but dog on the street know Cuthbhert got football job as he would allow it be second fiddle to hurling and would allow dualism and when frank says jump Cuthbhert says how high and Cuthbhert pro board every way in not one by all three cork strikes and minor role in 07 and groomed for senior job then

I criticseed jbm many times here.
Be a good man look back over my posts and I criticism jbm style play lack full back
However I'm glad jbm stayed as pat Kenneally was set take over job so I'm glad jbm stayed and he's better chance with hurling than your hero has with football
Cuthbhert I wanted sacked as he's NEVER WON ANYTHING AT CLUB LEVEL WITH THE TOWN OR BALLYCLOUGH OR CORK GOT HAMMERED BY KERRY IN MUNSTER, PLAYERS REFUSING PLAY UNDER HIM, NO COACH YES NO COACH, BLAMING REFEREE'S AND PLAYERS, SOMETHING JBM DOESN'T DO BUT JBM HAS ADMITTED HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR TIPP GAME SOMETHING CUTHBHERT HASN'T DONE OR SIMPLY WON'T

Sorry now if I have spell this out buy it's obvious but yet you don't see it or simply fail to see

Yesterday one point play was disgrace no matter when was as this was a division four team
Great comeback wait til kerry
Seriously we got take another hammering in kerry and relegated be division two which will in two years be harder get promoted from but likes yourself say wait til damage I'd done that imo will be irreversible to cork football
Just cause you fail to see or simply don't want to don't expect grass roots knowledge fans do same with respect.