Can I move my fibre router?

RonnieL · 22-12-2014 03:09PM #1

Hi Guys,

I just moved into a new house, and eircom came to set up our fibre broadband. Unfortunately, the engineer set it up in the hall, where my 1 and a half year old is going to have a field day pulling at wires etc. There is a phone point beside the bed upstairs and I'm thinking it would be better there. Is it technically possible to move what he's done up there? I'm hoping so, because the phone point he set it up at isn't the actual main phone point (that's in another room downstairs which would also be unsuitable). I've attached pictures to show what has been done.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks,

Ronan

advertsfox · 22-12-2014 04:48PM

Yes but generally, secondary phone points are weaker for signal. Check your line statistics before you move it, make note and then move it upstairs and check again. If there is no real degradation, happy days - just keep it there.

ED E · 22-12-2014 05:03PM

Not quite.

What you have their is what Eircom call a DPE. Its a socket wired to get the VDSL signal. It and the main socket you mentioned will get a sync, all other sockets will be voice services only.

You can rewire an additional socket to act as a DPE but you may lose sync speeds if the cabling is poor.

RonnieL · 23-12-2014 10:46AM

Thanks for the replies adverts and ed.

ED - What I had in mind initially was undoing what he has done in the hall, and doing the same thing up in the bedroom (reusing the new piece of hardware that he attached to the socket in the hall). Having read your post (particularly the last line), I'm now wondering if maybe I could/should buy another one of those bits, so I can attempt to make the socket in the bedroom a DPE, without risking the one in the hall. Does that make sense?

beauf · 23-12-2014 10:54AM

ED E wrote: »

...if the cabling is poor.

How do you make it not poor. I was also thinking of moving a eFibre router.

amdaley28 · 23-12-2014 11:22AM

beauf wrote: »

How do you make it not poor. I was also thinking of moving a eFibre router.

By having some idea of what you're doing.
If you're not competent with wiring then get a professional to do it for you.

RonnieL · 23-12-2014 12:13PM

amdaley, I think beauf and I are trying to figure out if this is something worth having a shot at ourselves.

The previous two replies implied that it's possible, so now I'd like to get some pointers from other helpful posters on how to go about it. Could anyone with some expertise put together a few steps, or link to somewhere else online with steps?

Having done some googling, I came across this article which seems relevant (despite being about moving a BT fibre point): http://www.vmadmin.co.uk/other/357-moving-bt-infinity-dsl-from-master-socket-to-any-household-extension-socket

Am I right in saying that the fibre in Ireland is just to the cabinet? Or FTTC as that article refers to it as.

beauf · 23-12-2014 12:24PM

I don't have blind faith in "professionals" either. I like to be informed about how things work. I dunno why people are scared of doing things themselves.

Its probably on the web. I found this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ob5aK3MH2I has a lot phone video's. (note the cardboard tank in the background).

ED E · 23-12-2014 12:37PM

If you wire an additional socket to the same terminals the existing DPE is on it should function in the same way.

RonnieL · 23-12-2014 02:30PM

ED E wrote: »

If you wire an additional socket to the same terminals the existing DPE is on it should function in the same way.

Any idea what I should search for to find a part similar to the one the eircom guy used when wiring the point in the hall? I'm thinking if I can get something very similar, it'll make it easier for me to figure out what to do.

Thanks!

ED E · 23-12-2014 03:01PM

Its just a very basic socket:

http://ie.rs-online.com/web/p/networking-faceplates-outlets/2530266/

Then important bit is wiring it to the same terminals on the back of the main socket so that it gets a "pure" connection to the line. Also, dont put phone handsets in these sockets!

RonnieL · 23-12-2014 03:25PM

ED E wrote: »

Its just a very basic socket:

http://ie.rs-online.com/web/p/networking-faceplates-outlets/2530266/

Then important bit is wiring it to the same terminals on the back of the main socket so that it gets a "pure" connection to the line. Also, dont put phone handsets in these sockets!

Lovely - I'll get one of those at some stage over the Christmas and give it a go.

Regarding your "dont put phone handsets in these sockets" comment - do you mean don't try to plug a phone into the new bit? I had assumed the pre-existing part of the socket could still be used for phone?

ED E · 23-12-2014 05:29PM

Yeah, the new boxes or DPE's are wired directly to the line, and arent filtered, so modem only no phones.

The existing socket will be wired to extension terminals that are filtered and fine for the phone.

sparky63 · 25-12-2014 11:47PM

Can you post a pic of the main socket. That white and green thats connected to the socket where your modem is sited looks like old wiring. Most likely he used the spare white/green from the main point for the DPE. We'll have a better idea of what way your wiring is, if we can have a look at the wires connected in the main socket. Also if you can take the cover off the socket below where the modem is sited, so we can see whats connected.

RonnieL · 30-12-2014 12:07AM

sparky63 wrote: »

Can you post a pic of the main socket. That white and green thats connected to the socket where your modem is sited looks like old wiring. Most likely he used the spare white/green from the main point for the DPE. We'll have a better idea of what way your wiring is, if we can have a look at the wires connected in the main socket. Also if you can take the cover off the socket below where the modem is sited, so we can see whats connected.

Hey sparky. Thanks for the reply, and sorry for the slow response - my notifications go to my work email which I'm steering clear of for Christmas! I'll post pics of the sockets insides ASAP. Cheers.

Can I move my fibre router?

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