Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

wadacrack · 22-12-2014 02:34PM

think falcao will come good.still looks sharp and possesses more pace than Van Persie and Rooney, hopefully Wilson will began to start playing better

22-12-2014 02:45PM

I see the Sunday Express pulling out the BS big-time..

Bale to Utd.....

The Moldy Gowl · 22-12-2014 02:52PM

This bale thing has been getting a lot of coverage. Any decent person covering it?
Could play him out wide and di Maria in the center. Can bale play on the right?

Won't happen, not while we are playing the youth team in defense

Magico Gonzalez · 22-12-2014 02:56PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

This bale thing has been getting a lot of coverage. Any decent person covering it?
Could play him out wide and di Maria in the center. Can bale play on the right?

Won't happen, not while we are playing the youth team in defense

It won't happen. Forget about it. More chance of Messi coming.

He's one of Ancelotti's favourite players. United would be a step down for him, at Real he is in with a genuine shot at winning the Champs league and Spanish league every year.

In short, there is more chance of Ronaldo joining Everton than Bale coming to United. They were looking to get rid of Di Maria, good knows why as he is an excellent player but they aren't about to take a loss or break even on an 80m player who the manages cherishes.

22-12-2014 02:58PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

It won't happen. Forget about it. More chance of Messi coming.

He's one of Ancelotti's favourite players. United would be a step down for him, at Real he is in with a genuine shot at winning the Champs league and Spanish league every year.

In short, there is more chance of Ronaldo joining Everton than Bale coming to United. They were looking to get rid of Di Maria, good knows why as he is an excellent player but they aren't about to take a loss or break even on an 80m player who the manages cherishes.

I haven't been watching much of him..is his form really that good under Ancelotti?
And is he a regular starter?

FutureGuy · 22-12-2014 03:00PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

It won't happen. Forget about it. More chance of Messi coming.

He's one of Ancelotti's favourite players. United would be a step down for him, at Real he is in with a genuine shot at winning the Champs league and Spanish league every year.

In short, there is more chance of Ronaldo joining Everton than Bale coming to United. They were looking to get rid of Di Maria, good knows why as he is an excellent player but they aren't about to take a loss or break even on an 80m player who the manages cherishes.

Good contribution but your example is flawed.

The chances of him Joining United is about a 4. The chances of him joining Everton or, say, Liverpool is a zero.

advertsfox · 22-12-2014 03:00PM

And it's begging to hype up and stir even more... this time Sky Sports saying it, such bull****!

Manchester United are planning on swapping midfielder Ander Herrera, as well as handing over £7m, in exchange for Bayern Munich playmaker Xherdan Shaqiri, claims the Sunday Express

The Moldy Gowl · 22-12-2014 03:03PM

Well I hope it dosent happen until the defense gets sorted. It's a better conversation to have than Leon Britton.

Yeah I think he starts. Think the fans want to see isco more though?

You would think the papers would link us with Ronaldo as he is older than bale and they can paint a story of bale being the heir apparent. A nice romantic story that football foams at the gash for. 'Ronnie' coming home for one last contract and letting bale take his spot.

22-12-2014 03:09PM

advertsfox wrote: »

And it's begging to hype up and stir even more... this time Sky Sports saying it, such bull****!

Very premature to get rid of Herrera so quickly...he's been decent and hasn't exactly got a major run in the side.

LostBoy101 · 22-12-2014 03:11PM

The papers have no good stories to run so they are getting desperate and running a story out of their arse.

basillarkin · 22-12-2014 03:18PM

Crimson King wrote: »

Still annoyed after Saturday. Villa were hardly in the game and although Bentake took his goal well it was not that difficult to defend against. Too much space was afforded to him. Evans again showing his lack of physical presence.

With 35 minutes to go, United were attacking and going for the jugular and then all of a sudden the impetus went with the Wilson substitution. Why I don't know but the game was there for the taking.

I hope against Newcastle normal service resumes. Delighted for Falcao, he is a brilliant player and looked so sharp on Saturday. Needs to start more games.

UTD were dominating alright in terms of possession and territory but lacked real penetration, they were unable to break villa down with that killer pass. The only joy they recieved was with young on the left up against the very immobile Lowton on his first PL start of the season.

It could be argued that Benteke could have but villa up 2 nil in the 2nd half only for a fine save from De Gea from bentekes bullet of a header. Villa tactics worked UTD were poor and wasteful with the ball IMO and were nearly made to pay on the counter in the 93rd min but Bacuna could not find benteke at the far post.

A lot of UTD fans seem to think just because they had a lot of the ball and dominated terriorty for large parts of the game they deserved the win but again they didn't really threaten abit like role reversals in Utds games against arsenal and Southampton.

Cantona's Collars · 22-12-2014 03:30PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Very premature to get rid of Herrera so quickly...he's been decent and hasn't exactly got a major run in the side.

Word on the streets in Manchester is that he's hardly endeared himself to LVG recently,turning up late to training.

RobertKK · 22-12-2014 03:30PM

Did you hear the rubbish spouted by one of the co-commentators on our match against Villa last Saturday who was going on about Benteke being the best striker playing on the pitch. He then felt very justified when Benteke scored.
Was delighted when Falcao scored...

RobertKK · 22-12-2014 03:31PM

zerks wrote: »

Word on the streets in Manchester is that he's hardly endeared himself to LVG recently,turning up late to training.

LVG comes across as a man who wouldn't tolerate that.

bangkok · 22-12-2014 03:35PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I haven't been watching much of him..is his form really that good under Ancelotti?
And is he a regular starter?

yes same form as last year, he is a class player, would love him at united, goals, assists, pace, power he has everything.

he is not one of the Madrid fans favourites as Isco is having a good season and is Spanish, but Madrid would be looking at 70-80m in order to sell

basillarkin · 22-12-2014 03:38PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Did you hear the rubbish spouted by one of the co-commentators on our match against Villa last Saturday who was going on about Benteke being the best striker playing on the pitch. He then felt very justified when Benteke scored.
Was delighted when Falcao scored...

That was Brian little a villa legend so he might be a bit biased but he wouldn't be far off, put benteke in that UTD team or a top 4 team and he would make hay.

basillarkin · 22-12-2014 03:44PM

bangkok wrote: »

yes same form as last year, he is a class player, would love him at united, goals, assists, pace, power he has everything.

he is not one of the Madrid fans favourites as Isco is having a good season and is Spanish, but Madrid would be looking at 70-80m in order to sell

Bale is doing far better than Isco in an attacking since in la liga this season and has scored 3 times as many goals from less appearances. Anyway they are not really like for like players while bale is a proven goal scorer Isco certainly isn't. No chance in the world of bale signing for UTD in the short term at least. The man is ripping it up in Spain.

Blatter · 22-12-2014 03:50PM

Liam O wrote: »

Most of Jones' appearances were when he was fully fit at the start of the season. Evans got a preseason injury and another one recently and has been rushed back this time anyway. I would hope that Evans has the more scope to improve with time though Jones was impressive at the start of the season. Good to have them both back and they'd be a good 2 at the back if Rafael and Rojo/Shaw/Blind could get back soon to shore up the full back positions.

How has Evans been rushed back from inury? He was out for ages and played an U-21 match when he came back to get match fit. Doesn't sound like he was rushed at all - the opposite in fact.

Evans has been very poor under LVG. From his performance in the 4-0 defeat to MK Dons to his last couple of games he's been dreadful. In fairness he hasn't got a chance in a back 4, he's been unlucky enough to be thrown into that disastrous back 3.

Still, I think his United career is in real danger. We will almost certainly be buying an experienced CB over the next two windows (possibly even 2).That would leave a minimum of 5 senior CBs at the club (new signing, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Rojo) with Blackett and McNair in reserve.

One of the senior lads will have to go. At the moment it's looking like Evans is the favorite. He needs to shape up quickly or he'll find that his United career will be over very soon IMO.

Pro. F · 22-12-2014 03:55PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Well I hope it dosent happen until the defense gets sorted. It's a better conversation to have than Leon Britton.

Yeah I think he starts. Think the fans want to see isco more though?

You would think the papers would link us with Ronaldo as he is older than bale and they can paint a story of bale being the heir apparent. A nice romantic story that football foams at the gash for. 'Ronnie' coming home for one last contract and letting bale take his spot.

I'm glad that something I discussed annoyed you so much. I really hope all of my contributions make the thread less fun for you to read.

Pro. F · 22-12-2014 04:05PM

Quandary wrote: »

I would prefer to see Di Maria played in a deeper role where he has a chance to get on the ball and influence the game more by taking the ball past players and picking out clever passes. I think his talents are wasted when he is played too far up the pitch or too wide.

I get the thinking for playing Di Maria in CM, but I really don't think he is wasted in either position if the team is set up right. He can take the ball past players and be into the box when he's playing further forward, it's not like that isn't also an excellent outcome.

For me, it all depends on whether we see the team clicking with any of these line-ups. There were some signs of it when we had Di Maria playing deeper earlier in the season, but not much, so I wouldn't be sure either way yet.

The Moldy Gowl · 22-12-2014 04:06PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I'm glad that something I discussed annoyed you so much. I really hope all of my contributions make the thread less fun for you to read.

I actually agreed with you a while ago, but shhhhh, I didbt thank it or reply just to keep up my blanket ignorance.

The Moldy Gowl · 22-12-2014 04:08PM

At least we agree on di Maria. Maybe this can be the seed for our bromance.

Pro. F · 22-12-2014 04:12PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I actually agreed with you a while ago, but shhhhh, I didbt thank it or reply just to keep up my blanket ignorance.

You have some cheek to be complaining about what other posters choose to discuss in the thread when you have by far the most posts and the majority of them are unfunny, throw-away comments like the above.

Cantona's Collars · 22-12-2014 04:12PM

Regarding Bale,it's common knowledge in Madrid that he doesn't integrate with his teammates and literally goes training & home again,he barely knows his way around the city and as a result the fans aren't warming to him.His professionalism isn't in doubt but it's his general lack of empathy with the city or the fans that they don't like.You are expected to interact with fans over there-it's an unwritten rule but Bale keeps himself to himself.
Jese is a local boy done good and a fan favourite,they'd sooner see him stay and wouldn't lose any sleep over Bale leaving.

bangkok · 22-12-2014 04:14PM

basillarkin wrote: »

Bale is doing far better than Isco in an attacking since in la liga this season and has scored 3 times as many goals from less appearances. Anyway they are not really like for like players while bale is a proven goal scorer Isco certainly isn't. No chance in the world of bale signing for UTD in the short term at least. The man is ripping it up in Spain.

yes but maybe it wont be his choice weather he stays or not, it is real Madrid after all along with Perez who likes new faces in and out every year

bangkok · 22-12-2014 04:16PM

zerks wrote: »

Regarding Bale,it's common knowledge in Madrid that he doesn't integrate with his teammates and literally goes training & home again,he barely knows his way around the city and as a result the fans aren't warming to him.His professionalism isn't in doubt but it's his general lack of empathy with the city or the fans that they don't like.You are expected to interact with fans over there-it's an unwritten rule but Bale keeps himself to himself.
Isco is a local boy done good and a fan favourite,they'd sooner see him stay and wouldn't lose any sleep over Bale leaving.

not local unless you mean he is from spain?

The Moldy Gowl · 22-12-2014 04:22PM

Pro. F wrote: »

You have some cheek to be complaining about what other posters choose to discuss in the thread when you have by far the most posts and the majority of them are unfunny, throw-away comments like the above.

Just shake it off, shake it off.

Let the haterz hate hate hate hate hate.

Cantona's Collars · 22-12-2014 04:28PM

bangkok wrote: »

not local unless you mean he is from spain?

Meant Jese,Isco was on my brain after reading an earlier post.

bangkok · 22-12-2014 04:32PM

zerks wrote: »

Meant Jese,Isco was on my brain after reading an earlier post.

jese is also not from Madrid, he is from the canary islands

adox · 22-12-2014 04:32PM

I do think Di Maria has looked at his most dangerous when played in a CM 3.

Utd are quite pedestrian with their build up, giving the opposition loads of time to set up defensively. Theres no injection of pace at all in the build up It should come from the wings but Young and Valencia more often than not arent good enough.

Di Maria commits players, goes past them and pulls teams out of shape and causes panic, or at least uncertainty. He also ups the overall tempo of Utds play when played centrally and forces others to up their tempo too.

Im going on a small sample size obviously but as it is, Utd look very one paced in their build up without him in the middle. The simple act of running at and past a player in the midfield not only disrupts the oppositions shape, it gives his other team members space and opportunity that is so much harder to find without him there when Utd are in their "one tempo" build up mode.

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