Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Gits_bone · 14-12-2014 11:20PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

We lost 3-0 it worked really well alright!

It wasn't the lack of striker that cost us the game.

Awful defence and Sterling not finishing his chances did.

14-12-2014 11:21PM

Hidalgo wrote: »

Starting with no strikers resulted in Liverpool putting in one of their most creative performances of the season, which says it all regarding their ineffectiveness.
Having Couthinho, Sterling and Lallana on together resulted in a rare sight of high intense pressing coupled with pace and movement which saw some quality through balls......

Throw Sturridge in the mix and you have goals.

There are a small few English PL clubs that can cater for being without a (their) 20 goal a season striker, Liverpool aren't one of them.

Hidalgo · 14-12-2014 11:21PM

Lots of the names being mentioned as needed are all based in England.
Cech, Begovic, Ings, Austin, Rhodes.

That's part of the problem imo. Spread tbe fcukin net to get players.

RED L4 0TH · 14-12-2014 11:22PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

EDIT: though I hope they themselves are realising that less acquisitions and a higher average purchase price / wage deals may be a superior way to go and sanction same for the next manager.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

MD1990 · 14-12-2014 11:24PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Not all down to wages,

We went for most of those when we didn't have CL.

Why didn't we go for players of that standard when we did have CL that is what needs to be asked I believe.

After failing to get Sanchez he probably thought that the top players were not going to come after failing time & time again. Its was reported he wanted Bony & Vorm but the board didn't want those players. Not many top strikers were available either only Falcao who has been poor at Man Utd.

5starpool · 14-12-2014 11:24PM

Gits_bone wrote: »

It wasn't the lack of striker that cost us the game.

Awful defence and Sterling not finishing his chances did.

That's because he is not a striker!

Gits_bone · 14-12-2014 11:24PM

RED L4 0TH wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This was a once off year imo to try and cope with the extra games of the champions league....which meany 6 extra games.

Hidalgo · 14-12-2014 11:24PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

We lost 3-0 it worked really well alright!

So are you blaming no strikers for the concession of 3 goals today??

It's not as if Liverpool have been scoring freely all season. With Balotelli or Lambert its been too static and easy to defend against.

Sterling should have scored, 30 seconds later and Rooney is clinical.

Gits_bone · 14-12-2014 11:25PM

5starpool wrote: »

That's because he is not a striker!

He is well capable of putting away the chances he had today. Balotelli is a striker and he still didn't score on de geea

Francie Barrett · 14-12-2014 11:25PM

Do people really think Jordan Rhodes is the kind of player who can score us into the Champions League?

There is some serious amount of delusion going on here. United weren't even that good today, but they have enough quality players in their team to be able to produce that moment of magic (Van Persie, Rooney, Mata, De Gea, etc). That is before you even mention the likes of Di Maria and Falcao, players who didn't even start.

brevity · 14-12-2014 11:25PM

Very good article on De Boer. Could be a great option for us.

http://afootballreport.com/post/22661498743/frank-de-boers-vision-the-whole-is-greater-than

Knex* · 14-12-2014 11:26PM

brevity wrote: »

Very good article on De Boer. Could be a great option for us.

http://afootballreport.com/post/22661498743/frank-de-boers-vision-the-whole-is-greater-than

Next we need a Kate Cohen, Why FDB would be a success at Liverpool, article.

Hidalgo · 14-12-2014 11:27PM

5starpool wrote: »

That's because he is not a striker!

He should have scored his first chance and are you excusing his one on one because he's not a striker?

Agent Coulson · 14-12-2014 11:28PM

If Rodgers had agreed to have Van Gaal as his DoF do people think the likes of Sanchez would have turned us down for London?

If Rafa, Klopp were manager would players still turn down a move?

Chucky the tree · 14-12-2014 11:28PM

I'm not sure FSG would have a huge issue with how the money was spent. I'd say the fact that all this money was spent on players who the managers seems to have little interest in playing is far more annoying.

Agent Coulson · 14-12-2014 11:29PM

Gits_bone wrote: »

It wasn't the lack of striker that cost us the game.

Awful defence and Sterling not finishing his chances did.

Rodgers has had 2.5 seasons to sort that out and hasn't.

Sterling is a winger not a striker.

LuckyLloyd · 14-12-2014 11:29PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Do people really think Jordan Rhodes is the kind of player who can score us into the Champions League?

There is some serious amount of delusion going on here. United weren't even that good today, but they have enough quality players in their team to be able to produce that moment of magic (Van Persie, Rooney, Mata, De Gea, etc). That is before you even mention the likes of Di Maria and Falcao, players who didn't even start.

No. But I think we need a body during the January window to compensate for the fact that we have three striking options, one who is injured / one who is nuts / one who doesn't fit the players around him and then Borini who is persona non gratis.

Hidalgo · 14-12-2014 11:29PM

brevity wrote: »

Very good article on De Boer. Could be a great option for us.

http://afootballreport.com/post/22661498743/frank-de-boers-vision-the-whole-is-greater-than

I'm afraid to click the link
If its penned by K.C I'm gonna open up a can of whoop ass

LuckyLloyd · 14-12-2014 11:30PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

If Rodgers had agreed to have Van Gaal as his DoF do people think the likes of Sanchez would have turned us down for London?

If Rafa, Klopp were manager would players still turn down a move?

I think it would have made a difference, but those pro Rodgers will say different. It's opinion either way which we can't prove.

ebbsy · 14-12-2014 11:31PM

I would be taking the Europa League very seriously if I was Rodgers.

Sounds desperate doesn't it ?

brevity · 14-12-2014 11:31PM

So now we have to rely on a 20 year old for goals and to creat chances.

Sterling cannot carry the team on his own.

Gits_bone · 14-12-2014 11:33PM

Should definitely be looking at smaller leagues now for hidden gems. There's a guy linked with Spurs, 23 years old who has 37 goals in 41 games in the croatian league.

Andreij Kramaric I think.

Vicxas · 14-12-2014 11:33PM

brevity wrote: »

So now we have to rely on a 20 year old for goals and to creat chances.

Sterling cannot carry the team on his own.

Suarez he Is not. If we don't get another striker in January it'll be a long first half of 2015

Gits_bone · 14-12-2014 11:33PM

ebbsy wrote: »

I would be taking the Europa League very seriously if I was Rodgers.

Sounds desperate doesn't it ?

If he wants his 70k a week he should be! haha

Hidalgo · 14-12-2014 11:33PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

No. But I think we need a body during the January window to compensate for the fact that we have three striking options, one who is injured / one who is nuts / one who doesn't fit the players around him and then Borini who is persona non gratis.

Tbh will buying a Charlie Austin get you cl at this stage? No way. Could be the difference between 11 and 9th

I'd nearly prefer to hold the powder till summer and add that to someone more polished.

Chucky the tree · 14-12-2014 11:33PM

Honestly, if we can't rely on our winger/attacking midfielder scoring one of his 3(or was it 4?) one-on-one chances than we need to seriously re-cosnider handing that player £100k+ a week.

gosplan · 14-12-2014 11:35PM

I hate the 'team x are doing badly, what they need more than anything is average but over-achieving manager/goalie/midfielder/striker y'

Pretty sure the premiership table more or less goes according to money spent.

Every so often a wildcard like Suarez comes along and upsets the order.

SUAREZ!!!!

Not fcuking Ings or Sustin

MD1990 · 14-12-2014 11:35PM

Here are some realistic players who I think we should be targetting. I would'nt be going for too many PL players as they are overpriced.

- Lacazette
- Imbula(Marseille CM)
- Depay
- Konoplyanka
- Nainngolan
- Vela
- Bony
- Firminio
- Aubameyang
- Otamendi

RED L4 0TH · 14-12-2014 11:37PM

Gits_bone wrote: »

This was a once off year imo to try and cope with the extra games of the champions league....which meany 6 extra games.

Noted, but I still think we brought in too many players, even allowing for these extra games.

5starpool · 14-12-2014 11:37PM

Hidalgo wrote: »

He should have scored his first chance and are you excusing his one on one because he's not a striker?

I'm not excusing him anything, but if you have a non striker playing as a striker it follows logically that they are less likely to be clinical than an actual striker getting the same chances.

He of course should have done better with most of his chances, but the above isn't rocket science.

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