Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

The Moldy Gowl · 11-12-2014 04:00PM

He could be our Ricky lambert signing.
Buy him for the lols and a just in case, then is your only player in tht position.

Donnielighto · 11-12-2014 04:13PM

kstand wrote: »

Fletcher is well past his best and Feillaini is a waste of space. I have my doubts about Blinds turn of pace too. A midfield trio of Carrick, Herrara and Strootman is good, very good. The Di Maria on the left, excellent.
But we would still be short an out and out right winger.

Fellaini is a waste of space? Did you cancel your sky subscription this season or something?

thelad95 · 11-12-2014 04:18PM

It's said that Carrick is an under-rated player but I think he's seriously over-rated on this thread. He's an excellent DM but can be quite slow and cumbersome at times and as his career has progressed, he seems to be more inclined to pass laterally as opposed to forward. You could argue that's due to the winger-centric tactics we saw under Moyes and Fergie but he just seems to have lost a bit of creative edge as well.

Herrera and Blind aren't as good in the DM role but certainly look more exciting going forward.

v3ttel · 11-12-2014 04:43PM

thelad95 wrote: »

It's said that Carrick is an under-rated player but I think he's seriously over-rated on this thread

thelad95 wrote: »

He's an excellent DM.

Granted, I chopped out the "but" in the second quote. IMHO you can't say a guy is over-rated, and then in the very next line say he is excellent.

11-12-2014 04:45PM

Janmaat was the big miss this Summer. Pittance and looks a very good right back. Could have covered Raf and came in when he got injured.

bucketybuck · 11-12-2014 04:46PM

v3ttel wrote: »

Granted, I chopped out the "but" in the second quote. IMHO you can't say a guy is over-rated, and then in the very next line say he is excellent.

Why not?

Somebody can be excellent but still not good enough for our needs, and can be over rated by fans.

bangkok · 11-12-2014 05:03PM

Donnielighto wrote: »

Fellaini is a waste of space? Did you cancel your sky subscription this season or something?

I think he means fellaini is not good enough for man utd, which I agree with

thelad95 · 11-12-2014 05:09PM

Fellaini is a good squad player to have around but in a Manchester United jersey, he will never be more than a 'horses for courses' type of player. He can be a nuisance and is good at holding the ball up and has had good games in both CDM (Chelsea) and CAM (West Brom, Stoke) this season.

In saying this, if we were to cash in to the tune of £12-18 million next summer and invest in a new CB, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over his departure.

Donnielighto · 11-12-2014 05:28PM

bangkok wrote: »

I think he means fellaini is not good enough for man utd, which I agree with

If he's playing well enough he's too enough.

TheDoc · 11-12-2014 05:30PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Vlaar had an excellent season last year and his name was suggested in here before the world cup took place, so the one-off event criticism doesn't really hold.

I don't want to overstate his level, but for the right price I believe he would be a better option than Vidic at this time.

I would imagine there was a few transfer targets that either eluded Van Gaal or were pencilled in to keep monitoring, and maybe we could go for that in January?

RobertKK · 11-12-2014 06:25PM

https://twitter.com/stancollymore/status/543079643289767937

kryogen · 11-12-2014 07:38PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Struggled exactly in that role for Inter.

Yep, you would have to be working on the assumption he has just found it tough to settle in Italy and discount his performances, rather then his ability being gone, why else would he be signed like

He wouldn't be signed on form anyway

Danye · 11-12-2014 07:44PM

I'm not actually too concerned with our defensive issues. I think we've enough strength there and with certain players getting more games under their belt I believe we'll be fine.

I'd be more concerned at the moment with the lack of creativity in our game. Despite the attacking quality we have we don't seem to be creating a whole lot.

I think Moussa Sissoko (sp) from Newcastle would be a good signing. He's strong, powerful with and without the ball, works hard, arrives late in the box and grabs a few goals. This is the type of player I think would be a great addition to the squad.

The Moldy Gowl · 11-12-2014 07:51PM

Sissoko is worse than Fellaini. Might as well just recall tc23 then.

We aren't creating that much because of the defense. We can't go all attacking when our defense is 2 wingers and a youth teamer only playing becuasing everyone is injured.

You need to sort out the back before you can build forward

SherlockWatson · 11-12-2014 08:09PM

Fellaini has been our best outfield player this season and people still say they want him gone and he's "Not United Standard"

To those people I ask, do you even watch the games? Cause it really doesn't seem like it.

Mantis Toboggan · 11-12-2014 08:15PM

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Fellaini has been our best outfield player this season

That's not true.

He's been better than expected but definitely not out outfield player of the season.

The Moldy Gowl · 11-12-2014 08:17PM

Tyson Fury wrote: »

That's not true.

He's been better than expected but definitely not out outfield player of the season.

....... Yes he has.

No matter how much you let your hatred take over facts, you will be still be wrong.
He may not be the best next month. But he has been the best so far.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-12-2014 08:26PM

I don't think Carrick is overrated or underrated in general.

Most can see his advantages and disadvantages and what he brings to the team.

Redo91 · 11-12-2014 08:28PM

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Fellaini has been our best outfield player this season and people still say they want him gone and he's "Not United Standard"

To those people I ask, do you even watch the games? Cause it really doesn't seem like it.

Christ on a bike! :eek:

Nolars · 11-12-2014 08:31PM

Fellaini has been in good form but was found out away from Southampton, a central midfielder needs to be able to take the ball and pass it and slow the game down away from home when it matters. No problems at old trafford. LVG philosophy is to hold onto the ball and Fellaini cant do that, thats why he will be sold when LVG gets more of his midfielders in.

thelad95 · 11-12-2014 08:35PM

I'd like Fellaini and Carrick to stay. Both are potential game changers. Just not as first teamers.

Rob Thomas · 11-12-2014 08:36PM

RobertKK wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stancollymore/status/543079643289767937

Silly season...

The run of wins is great but I don't think even the most optimistic fans would claim that recent performances are anywhere near good enough for us to be spoken of as genuine title contenders.

Will I Amnt · 11-12-2014 08:37PM

Nolars wrote: »

Fellaini has been in good form but was found out away from Southampton, a central midfielder needs to be able to take the ball and pass it and slow the game down away from home when it matters. No problems at old trafford. LVG philosophy is to hold onto the ball and Fellaini cant do that, thats why he will be sold when LVG gets more of his midfielders in.

Rooney was crap and couldn't keep possession at Southampton, was he found out? should we get rid of him?

Mantis Toboggan · 11-12-2014 08:38PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

....... Yes he has.

No matter how much you let your hatred take over facts

The facts?
Well he's only started 7 league games, that's less than half our games so far.

Not sure how you can say he's our best outfield player. Rooney would be my pick so far after De Gea followed by Di Maria and Blind.

Whatsisname · 11-12-2014 08:39PM

Anyone judging players after Southampton are silly tbh. I honestly think it was purely down to the system. I don't think any player looks 100% comfortable in it. We've played our best with the 442 diamond/4312 this season I think and I hope LVG reverts back to it and stays with it.

Will I Amnt · 11-12-2014 08:40PM

Tyson Fury wrote: »

The facts?
Well he's only started 7 league games, that's less than half our games so far.

Not sure how you can say he's our best outfield player. Rooney would be my pick so far after De Gea followed by Di Maria and Blind.

Di Maria has been very ordinary since his first few games.

Nolars · 11-12-2014 08:41PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Rooney was crap and couldn't keep possession at Southampton, was he found out? should we get rid of him?

No because Rooney is decent at passing. Fellaini isn't a passing midfielder he is known for being strong and good in the air.

Will I Amnt · 11-12-2014 08:43PM

Nolars wrote: »

No because Rooney is decent at passing. Fellaini isn't a passing midfielder he is known for being strong and good in the air.

His passing has been fine up until that game, he performs well when the team performs well. Oh and Rooney's short passing can be shockingly poor at times.

Rob Thomas · 11-12-2014 08:43PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Di Maria has been very ordinary since his first few games.

Ya, he will come good but like Ozil last year he had an initial impact but will need time to settle in.

Sanchez has probably been the best import to the league so far this year.

Will I Amnt · 11-12-2014 08:46PM

It's a toss up between Rooney and Fellaini for best outfield player, Fellaini was my MOTM for 3 or 4 games in a row recently, maybe more.

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