Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

Pro. F · 08-12-2014 04:27PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Personally I do mind, particularly for things like his criticisms of Smalling and Shaw. That is not how he should be handling his players, and he will only get away with it so far. Should success not come that waffley bullshit will start to hang him in due course.

I think it's possible for a manager to get performances out of players by saying mad shít about them in public sometimes. Brian Clough used to do it and it definitely worked, so LVG could have the same idea. Or he could just be an ego maniac who says mad shít. Either way, he'll live or die by his results.

UnitedIrishman · 08-12-2014 04:34PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I think it's possible for a manager to get performances out of players by saying mad shít about them in public sometimes. Brian Clough used to do it and it definitely worked, so LVG could have the same idea. Or he could just be an ego maniac who says mad shít. Either way, he'll live or die by his results.

A lot of it is looking for a reaction from the player. He's a tough coach on his players in workload and he speaks his mind, but it makes players tougher mentally in the long run. Makes them stronger personalities too.

beno619 · 08-12-2014 04:34PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I think it's possible for a manager to get performances out of players by saying mad shít about them in public sometimes. Brian Clough used to do it and it definitely worked, so LVG could have the same idea. Or he could just be an ego maniac who says mad shít. Either way, he'll live or die by his results.

At least he's our egomaniac

bucketybuck · 08-12-2014 04:46PM

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

A lot of it is looking for a reaction from the player. He's a tough coach on his players in workload and he speaks his mind, but it makes players tougher mentally in the long run. Makes them stronger personalities too.

It also tells them that when they make mistakes their manager is going to hang them in public.

Donnielighto · 08-12-2014 04:50PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

It also tells them that when they make mistakes their manager is going to hang them in public.

But he can show by selecting them when they are getting it in the neck that public opinion isn't worth much and shouldn't have too much of an effect on them.

UnitedIrishman · 08-12-2014 04:53PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

It also tells them that when they make mistakes their manager is going to hang them in public.

Sometimes they need it. We've been on about the need for strong characters in our squad and especially in our defence for the last couple of years and Van Gaal knows more about the psychology of a footballer than we will probably ever know. By saying a player didn't do his job in public he's seeing how a player will react when everyone - fans and press - is looking at them wondering how they are going to recover from a poor performance or decision. He could make it easy for his player and defend him and have a word with him in training but that's not testing a players mentality. And then we'd wonder when it comes to crunch time in a big game how a player can't handle it.

beno619 · 08-12-2014 04:53PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

It also tells them that when they make mistakes their manager is going to hang them in public.

Ah I doubt Smalling needed LVG to tell him he made a balls of things against City.

Nalz · 08-12-2014 05:27PM

Pro. F wrote: »

Funny, I'm of the opposite opinion with LVG. I think a lot of the things he says are waffley bullshìt and meant to deflect criticism or big himself up.

If they're waffley though, they're descriptive. They're not vague or full of cliches, or "we'll try" "hopefully" etc

Anything he says in great length and detail is simply put, whether its bullshít or bigging himself up, it most certainly isn't cliche, puzzling and def not one of your standard interviews or pressers.

As likeable a man Moyes was, I hated him in front of the press and tv. Wasn't a fan of Fergie either too much for different reasons.

08-12-2014 05:38PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

1-3, away to Southampton? Love the confidence lads! Southampton have performed very well this season, and though I do think their position flatters them a little (having had an easy enough fixture list up to recently) I can't see how people reckon we are going to get just our second away win of the season (and part of last season) and tonk them in the process.

We obviously have players that can cause them problems, we have players that should be able to cause any side in the world problems. But, they also have players that can cause our fairly rickety backline problems of our own. If we had a slightly less capable goalkeeper in nets vs Arsenal or Stoke we could have come away with 1 point from 6 rather than 6. We are on a good run, but don't let that mask the continuing problems.

I'm hoping we win tonight, and we should be capable of it - but we are also capable of conceding 5 goals vs Leicester.

I wouldn't class 1-3 as a whipping by any means. We are creating chances but need to up the conversion rate.
I'm also going on Southamptons two previous games, and the fact there missing there best player this season IMO in Morgan Schneiderlin.

Your Airbag · 08-12-2014 06:29PM

I wouldn't put LVG anywhere near the BS'er category. He seems so straight to the point and is always calling out questions and myths/stories the press are trying to drum up as stupid or ridiculous.

I honestly believe LVG believes everything he says and is being as honest as he can with the majority of his answers.

He is short and blunt, I find him very far from a waffler. When he does goes into detail, like he did with Falcao, its to nip a press story in the bud when they are trying to get a negative angle on something.

Not the I agree with everything he says or does but I believe he does it all with 100% faith he is doing the right thing.

But its like any interview from a guy in power, you either believe him or you think he's holding something back or deflecting. Nobody can be certain.

Adamcp898 · 08-12-2014 07:42PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

It would be understandable Falcao being a bit nervous and easing himself back in.

Maybe LVG is taking this up as not being bothered and taking it easy.

Falcao is world class if we can ease him in and get him firing then he will make some difference. It was totally obvious against Stoke he looked nowhere near fit.

Liam O wrote: »

I said it a few weeks ago but Vidic was the same, lot of niggly injuries his first season back but was able to get back to playing regularly at an older age than Falcao. He'll be vital over Christmas. It'll be a real luxury being able to start Rooney/RVP or something on the 26th and Falcao and Wilson on the 28th imo or some variation of them. Especially if Di Maria is still out at that point. For that to work Falcao needs a bit of game time before that however.

Yeah but what I mean is I don't think Falcao is rusty or plain unfit, I think he's rushed his rehab and his knee is nowhere near where it should be in terms of condition and it could be quite a while before we see anything from him.

Rayne Wooney · 08-12-2014 08:00PM

If Van Gaal says he's fit to play just 20 minutes then I think it's general fitness rather than his knee

It should do him some good, get back to 100% and be raring to go in the new year and score a heap in another top European league

Your Airbag · 08-12-2014 08:04PM

4th vs 5th and the winner takes 3rd place. Can't wait for this and looking forward to the teamsheets.

An impressive display here would be a great way to start the week.

bucketybuck · 08-12-2014 08:06PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It should do him some good, get back to 100% and be raring to go in the new year and score a heap in another top European league

My personal opinion/prediction is that it won't happen for Falcao, I don't think he will ever figure consistently for us and we won't take up the option in the summer. Time will tell though.

Headshot · 08-12-2014 08:06PM

God I love how LVG interacts with the media.

Pure brilliant

fuzzydunlop85 · 08-12-2014 08:09PM

Headshot wrote: »

God I love how LVG interacts with the media.

Pure brilliant

Has a great charisma/arrogance about him alright. Night and day between him and moyes! Can't wait for this game, disappointed Herrera isn't starting.

Adamcp898 · 08-12-2014 08:14PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

If Van Gaal says he's fit to play just 20 minutes then I think it's general fitness rather than his knee

It should do him some good, get back to 100% and be raring to go in the new year and score a heap in another top European league

Here's hoping.

08-12-2014 08:26PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

My personal opinion/prediction is that it won't happen for Falcao, I don't think he will ever figure consistently for us and we won't take up the option in the summer. Time will tell though.

But you're normally so positive about these things

Professional Griefer · 08-12-2014 08:26PM

Accrington Stanley or Yeovil in FA Cup

homerjay2005 · 08-12-2014 08:26PM

Accrington or Yeovil away in Fa Cup 3rd round.

Whatsisname · 08-12-2014 08:26PM

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RedMancunian wrote:

Manchester United have been drawn against Accrington or Yeovil away in the third round of the FA Cup. #MUFC

LuckyGent88 · 08-12-2014 08:26PM

Yeah, a decent draw in the fa cup. Away to accrington or yeovil.
We shouldn't have a problem there

08-12-2014 08:30PM

Yeovil haven't been great this season so another league 1 loss is unlikely

bantee · 08-12-2014 08:30PM

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Yeah, a decent draw in the fa cup. Away to accrington or yeovil.
We shouldn't have a problem there

MK Dons say hi

Kylo Ren · 08-12-2014 08:31PM

Accrington Stanley, Who are they?

Vertigo100 · 08-12-2014 08:33PM

Keno wrote: »

Accrington Stanley, Who are they?

Exactly.

LuckyGent88 · 08-12-2014 08:33PM

bantee wrote: »

MK Dons say hi

We are in a much different place now though.

callaway92 · 08-12-2014 08:33PM

Keno wrote: »

Accrington Stanley, Who are they?

Accrington Stanley Football Club is an English football club based in Accrington, Lancashire. The club participates in Football League Two, the fourth tier of the English football league system.

The club was formed in 1968, with the town regaining a club with league status after 44 years when they were promoted as champions of the Football Conference on 15 April 2006.

Ilyas Khan saved the club from possible oblivion in late 2009 and stepped down as chairman in 2012 after keeping the club financially secure. Former Club President Peter Marsden was appointed chairman soon after.

bantee · 08-12-2014 08:41PM

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

We are in a much different place now though.

I'll reserve judgement until after tonight's game, get back to you then

The Moldy Gowl · 08-12-2014 08:46PM

bantee wrote: »

I'll reserve judgement until after tonight's game, get back to you then

Hahahaha dafuq.

Yeah because man utd can't beat mk dons. They are just trolling the lower leagues.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

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