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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

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  • #6752
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,867 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Aidric wrote: »
    That loss to Leicester still galls. They are a poor side.

    Don't forget Swansea on the first day of the season.
    That was probably just as bad when you consider home form since then.


  • #6753
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,096 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Quandary wrote: »
    It's a bit early to tell who offers more in that DM position but from what I have seen so far:

    Blind:
    Quicker passer of the ball
    More mobile
    More comfortable receiving the ball when under pressure
    Needs less time on the ball
    More aggressive forward passer

    Carrick:
    Better positionally
    very safe
    Physically stronger
    More arial ability
    Hugely experienced

    As Carrick gets older(33 now) we will probably see him phased out with blind getting more game time too.

    As it stands I think we are lucky to have two very competent players for the position.

    Ehh, blind is not a more aggressive fwd passer. Carrick gets slack for the odd sidewards pass but Blind is more guilty of it imo

    Early days in his career at united


  • #6754
    beno619
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭beno619


    KH25 wrote:
    I remember seeing that. Just goes to show that a lot of the smaller teams could achieve far more if they applied themselves the same as they do for matches against bigger sides.


    Yep. You just know Pool will raise there game next weekend.


  • #6755
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    KH25 wrote: »
    Fergies speech about cheating the manager really seems appropriate for them.

    Huh??? What did he say?


  • #6756
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,146 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Utter rubbish.

    How so? Valencia isn't a natural right back yet he was no worse than Rafa. When Rafa has played he's been inconsistent and has only started 40% of the games which isn't good enough. If this continues he may be replaced in the summer.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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  • #6757
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,146 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    beno619 wrote: »
    Yep. You just know Pool will raise there game next weekend.

    Aye, don't forget It's their cup final on Sunday.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #6758
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Tyson Fury wrote: »
    How so? Valencia isn't a natural right back yet he was no worse than Rafa. When Rafa has played he's been inconsistent and has only started 40% of the games which isn't good enough. If this continues he may be replaced in the summer.

    40% of the games this season?

    If so, it's just twisting stats to suit your agenda


  • #6759
    Unearthly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,164 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »
    Huh??? What did he say?

    About 18 years ago :)

    Leeds United cheating their manager by rolling over to Newcastle and raising their game v United


  • #6760
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Unearthly wrote: »
    About 18 years ago :)

    Leeds United cheating their manager by rolling over to Newcastle and raising their game v United

    Cheating the manager, and their fans


  • #6761
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've been heavily critical of Valencia in the past, but he's played the wing back role very well defensively speaking.


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  • #6762
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Unearthly wrote: »
    About 18 years ago :)

    Leeds United cheating their manager by rolling over to Newcastle and raising their game v United


    Oh yes. Sorry. Thought it was recent.

    Yeah that's annoying alright. The lower teams always try to put in extra effort against utd. Great testament to fergie of how he dealt with that.


    And Liverpool are the worst for it as well. They could play crap and lose 3 0 to hull tomorrow and next week they will win 2-1 against utd.


  • #6763
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I've been heavily critical of Valencia in the past, but he's played the wing back role very well defensively speaking.

    It suits him far more than being a winger. Can play it more cautious.


  • #6764
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Don't forget Swansea on the first day of the season.
    That was probably just as bad when you consider home form since then.

    At least Swansea are in the top half of the league. Leicester holding the rest up, they got 3 of their 10 points against us, 30% of their points...
    3-1 up and to lose 5-3 to Leicester, not Chelsea or City...
    It is something quite sickening to think of...


  • #6765
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,146 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »
    40% of the games this season?

    If so, it's just twisting stats to suit your agenda

    I'm not twisting anything mate, if he comes back and plays 10 games in a row then brilliant, but I'd be surprised if he does.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #6766
    Unearthly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,164 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Fa cup draw tomorrow. It's been too long since an Fa cup win. It would complement a return to champions league very nicely.

    Here's hoping for a Chelsea type road to the final


  • #6767
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,983 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Would love a small team we can utterly destroy for fun :P

    When will the first matches be?


  • #6768
    jebus84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭jebus84


    Quandary wrote: »
    It's a bit early to tell who offers more in that DM position but from what I have seen so far:

    Blind:
    Quicker passer of the ball
    More mobile
    More comfortable receiving the ball when under pressure
    Needs less time on the ball
    More aggressive forward passer

    Carrick:
    Better positionally
    very safe
    Physically stronger
    More arial ability
    Hugely experienced

    As Carrick gets older(33 now) we will probably see him phased out with blind getting more game time too.

    As it stands I think we are lucky to have two very competent players for the position.

    id like to think carrick has the same effect on me as he does on the utd players,Im always confident well control the game more when he plays and if its a close game theres no better player to start in midfield for us


  • #6769
    RichFTW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭RichFTW


    Unearthly wrote: »
    About 18 years ago :)

    Leeds United cheating their manager by rolling over to Newcastle and raising their game v United

    You'd expect that from your rivals though. The last thing Leeds fans would want is United winning a league thanks to them. Liverpool did something similar too in 2010.

    Remember Gerrard's back-pass/assist to Drogba against Chelsea. That combined with Liverpool not even trying handed the league to Chelsea. Ended up losing the league by a point.


  • #6770
    Whatsisname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    UtdReport.com &#8207 wrote: »
    Louis van Gaal has told Radamel Falcao that he must put up with being a substitute at #mufc. [guardian]

    Daily Mail seem to be reporting something similar too


  • #6771
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Would love a small team we can utterly destroy for fun :P

    When will the first matches be?

    Someone small like mk dons.


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  • #6772
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,041 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Tyson Fury wrote: »
    Aye, don't forget It's their cup final on Sunday.

    I hate this bollix tbh. Utd will raise their game too. They are both each other's biggest "rivals".


  • #6773
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,146 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    adox wrote: »
    I hate this bollix tbh. Utd will raise their game too. They are both each other's biggest "rivals".

    Why comment then?

    They done this for years though, especially under Rafa Benitez. Run themselves into the ground and got a result against us only to go out and lose to a team like wigan the following week.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #6774
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    The most important thing is retaining our international champions cup next weekend


  • #6775
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,596 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    wadacrack wrote: »
    i think Clyne is very good and just slightly better than Rafael. Coleman is obviously very good but I rate Rafael just above. Clyne is very very good and still only 23

    Rafa is less than a year older than Clyne,I think people forget how young Rafa is.I havent seen Clyne do anything that made me think that he is better than Rafa.


  • #6776
    Davis Faint Hive
    Posts: 27,583 ✭✭✭✭ Davis Faint Hive


    Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »
    Someone small like mk dons.

    Why would you jinx us like that....classic rex


  • #6777
    Manutd_4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »
    Someone small like mk dons.

    Get out of my head, lol :P I'd love for us to come up against a small team like mk dons cuz now LVG knows his players and which formation and style suits everyone so it would be a fun game to watch


  • #6778
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    M!Ck^ wrote: »
    Why would you jinx us like that....classic rex

    Let's hope for no injuries tomorrow.


  • #6779
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,456 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    What is it with some players once they get branded something once they are always branded it by some people.

    A perfect example Lucas had a shaky start for Liverpool and was laughed at, then he became the best dm in the league before his injury yet people still called him useless.

    Rafael got sent off at 19 against a world class player and people always bring this up to say he is reckless. He is no more reckless than any of our defenders. He has matured greatly a perfect example Chelsea on a yellow for 80 minutes against the best winger in the league and didn't put a foot wrong.

    Anybody who wants to say they are fed up with him being injury prone fair enough but people who constantly say he is reckless are just the same people with lazy opinions who refuse to acknowledge somebody has changed.


  • #6780
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    I can't understand anyone not rating Rafael having watched him play a few times. He's clearly a very good fullback.

    Pointing to his injury record as a reason to replace him is totally valid, but his ability is not in doubt.


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  • #6781
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PhlegmyMoses wrote: »
    I can't understand anyone not rating Rafael having watched him play a few times. He's clearly a very good fullback.

    Pointing to his injury record as a reason to replace him is totally valid, but his ability is not in doubt.

    A lot of it is just recycled from the people who watch 4 or 5 United games a season and think that they can give an opinion with more basis than the people who watch them every week. Rafael is reckless, Rooney is poor, Shaw isn't as good as he was last season, Fellaini is rubbish etc. I was with a friend in the pub the other day and he was saying Rojo doesn't look good. I'm the first to criticise a United player not playing well but it's infuriating trying to argue with some of these opinions that have no basis.


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