Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

5starpool · 07-12-2014 02:50PM

8-10 wrote: »

Would you rest players on Tuesday then?

To me Tuesday is a must win as we're out if we don't, whereas Sunday I think we could draw and still be in contention for 4th.

No point resting as it's a Tuesday to Sunday gap so loads of recovery time regardless of anyone's priorities. I want to win both although I fear we'll win none. We have a better chance of Tuesday though as Basel aren't great and we are at home (not that that's been much of an advantage this season).

Sir Gallagher · 07-12-2014 02:50PM

AVB....i'd think i'd just give up football altogether.

Montroseee · 07-12-2014 02:59PM

Higuain or Bony.

JohnDaniels · 07-12-2014 03:00PM

As a soccer fan I want to see us in the latter stages of the CL but we're light years from winning it with this team and the manager isn't capable imo of setting us up tactically to cause too many upsets. It would be great to see a few more big European nights at anfield this season but in terms of importance though I would take the three points against United over it. Huge six pointer and means the gap will be only 4 if we win but 10 points if we lose and they are over the hill and gone.

mav79 · 07-12-2014 03:02PM

If FSG sack Rodgers we will probably end up with Martinez or Gary Monk. Would love to see a manager that has managed a big club come in if Rodgers can't turn this team around, someone like Rudi Garcia, Emery or Bielsa.

cj maxx · 07-12-2014 03:11PM

Montroseee wrote: »

Higuain or Bony.

Of the two. , bony

07-12-2014 03:12PM

Sack Rodgers and AvB level and worse is the reality.

No doubt we'd go for Koeman as he's flavour of the month.

Talk of Klopp etc is delusional.

Chucky the tree · 07-12-2014 03:17PM

Not sure AVB would be any worse than Rodgers to be honest, or any better either.

Oranage2 · 07-12-2014 03:36PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Sack Rodgers and AvB level and worse is the reality.

No doubt we'd go for Koeman as he's flavour of the month.

Talk of Klopp etc is delusional.

And what level is Rodgers at?

07-12-2014 03:40PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

And what level is Rodgers at?

Wengers atm to name one

Oranage2 · 07-12-2014 03:50PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Wengers atm to name one

Well this sums up Liverpool supporters to a T!

07-12-2014 03:53PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well this sums up Liverpool supporters to a T!

Thanks.

it's good to be behind the manager and not call for his head during a bad run eh

07-12-2014 03:58PM

Carroll and Downing ripping up the league

PhiloCypher · 07-12-2014 04:04PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

I'm actually the opposite.

We're tethering on the brink of our league season being over.

I actually agree with this line of thinking, concentrate on the league. I'm just surprised to hear this coming from you, I always had you pegged as a give your all in the cups no matter what as there's no trophy for coming fourth kinda guy.

Oranage2 · 07-12-2014 04:05PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Thanks.

it's good to be behindI the manag and not call for his head during a bad run eh

At a higher level fans have more expectations from their manager. For arsenal champions league qualification is a minimum for the players, for Liverpool their players will probably be happy if basle let them into their dressing room and sign a few autographs. So you see why the fans have different reactions.

And I'm firmly in the pro Wenger camp.

Kerrigooney · 07-12-2014 04:09PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well this sums up Liverpool supporters to a T!

Oranage2 wrote: »

for Liverpool their players will probably be happy if basle let them into their dressing room and sign a few autographs.

And this sums you up to a T.

Augmerson · 07-12-2014 04:11PM

It's a big week coming up and of course the papers are going to come up with articles like FSG eyeing up potential replacements given Liverpool's season so far.

And maybe FSG are eyeing up replacements. I wouldn't blame them. But AVB? **** that 100%.

There are similarities between AVB and Rodgers, in that both were fortunate to have a world class player - Bale and Suarez. And both had and are having a torrid time replacing those players, having spent substantial amounts.

It didn't help AVB with the situation at Chelsea, where anything but top 3 gets you the bullet and he either lost or had the senior players out against him. Spurs sounded better for him but Levy and Baldini apparently acquired players he didn't want. He still had great squads however and really failed to get the most out of them.

AVB has signed slightly better players I think but then he has had better funding (certainly at Chelsea) to do so. I don't know how he would work with our budget. AVB has had much better squads than ours. And when it came to rebuilding a side I think he did poorly. He wouldn't be a good option.

I'd rather we stick with Rodgers, even if we lose both of the big games coming up this week and I'd hate that to happen, but bring in Origi and start playing Borini or including him in squads (PLEASE FFS) and keep up the defensive improvements and we'd have an outside chance of top 4.

monkey9 · 07-12-2014 04:14PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

At a higher level fans have more expectations from their manager. For arsenal champions league qualification is a minimum for the players, for Liverpool their players will probably be happy if basle let them into their dressing room and sign a few autographs. So you see why the fans have different reactions.

And I'm firmly in the pro Wenger camp.

What the bleeding hell are you all about?

Agent Coulson · 07-12-2014 04:19PM

Listening to the Sunday Supplement this moring I don't know which one of them said but he hinted that Gerrard and Rodgers don't get on at all.

If Rodgers was to get the sack I would imagine Gerrard would put his name forward for the mangers job if the likes of AVB were in the running for it as well.

07-12-2014 04:19PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

At a higher level fans have more expectations from their manager. For arsenal champions league qualification is a minimum for the players, for Liverpool their players will probably be happy if basle let them into their dressing room and sign a few autographs. So you see why the fans have different reactions.

And I'm firmly in the pro Wenger camp.

With Liverpools history in the European Cup I doubt they'll be just happy to turn up, 5 wins just didn't happen by accident.

There are teams that seem happy to do that every season I do agree.

Oranage2 · 07-12-2014 04:24PM

monkey9 wrote: »

What the bleeding hell are you all about?

Well the other poster got me riled up so I may have been a little incoherent. I was basically saying arsenal supporters are (with no disrespect to Liverpool) looking for more from their club so that's why the manager is under more pressure from the fans.

JohnDaniels · 07-12-2014 04:29PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well the other poster got me riled up so I may have been a little incoherent. I was basically saying arsenal supporters are (with no disrespect to Liverpool) looking for more from their club so that's why the manager is under more pressure from the fans.

Your manager has achieved the bare minimum (your words) for nearly a decade and is still in a job. Our manager nearly won the league last season and is already under pressure. Forget the wrongs and rights of each situation your post above about looking for more from their club is utterly ridiculous.

NukaCola · 07-12-2014 04:34PM

skywalker wrote: »

Jim Boardman reporting in the times that FSG are sounding out AVB in case they sack Rodgers.

https://twitter.com/jimboardman/status/541572403063959552

Its been too long

http://eplindex.com/14831/andre-villas-boas-succeed-liverpool-failing-chelsea.html

NukaCola · 07-12-2014 04:35PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well the other poster got me riled up so I may have been a little incoherent. I was basically saying arsenal supporters are (with no disrespect to Liverpool) looking for more from their club so that's why the manager is under more pressure from the fans.

As he should be.

michael999999 · 07-12-2014 04:40PM

Don't feed him lads!

Have all be calling us victims again if you "rile" him up!

Oranage2 · 07-12-2014 04:40PM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

Your manager has chieved the bare minimum (youron words) for neary a decade and i.still in a job. Ou manager nearly won the league last season and is already under pressure. Forgetthe wrongs and rights of each situation your post above about looking for more from their club is utterly ridiculous.

Wenger has done the bare minimum in terms of pleasing the the fans, he has on the other hand spent the least amount of money to achieve the maximum profit, which keeps the owners and shareholders very happy. Not great for the fans though but football has changed and it's all about the money.

I don't want to get into a big debate but Rodgers has spent a lot of money very poorly, has big cl game coming and looks very poor in the league.

monkey9 · 07-12-2014 04:49PM

In a way, I admire FSG's stance on their financial outlook and in fairness to them as well, work starts at Anfield tomorrow on increasing the capacity.

But we seriously need to spend a ****load on a world class centre forward and centre back. Forget about the money already spent, that's just net spend on the back of the Suarez sake. I think it's about twenty odd million we've spent.

Look at Man U. They are trying to buy their way back into the top four. We need to fork out on a couple of world class stars and fine, keep up the the potential star spotting if you want. But buy for now as well.

Pyjamarama · 07-12-2014 05:01PM

monkey9 wrote: »

In a way, I admire FSG's stance on their financial outlook and in fairness to them as well, work starts at Anfield tomorrow on increasing the capacity.

But we seriously need to spend a ****load on a world class centre forward and centre back. Forget about the money already spent, that's just net spend on the back of the Suarez sake. I think it's about twenty odd million we've spent.

Look at Man U. They are trying to buy their way back into the top four. We need to fork out on a couple of world class stars and fine, keep up the the potential star spotting if you want. But buy for now as well.

Jesus christ... we don't have the money they do!! How can people not get this... we can't afford the wages.

smileyj1987 · 07-12-2014 05:09PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

At a higher level fans have more expectations from their manager. For arsenal champions league qualification is a minimum for the players, for Liverpool their players will probably be happy if basle let them into their dressing room and sign a few autographs. So you see why the fans have different reactions.

And I'm firmly in the pro Wenger camp.

You know your club is in pieces when your team celebrates coming 4th in the league like they have won it .
If that was BR I'm sure he would have ripped into the players publicly or said he wasn't happy to see them be happy to come 4th that he was aiming higher .
So for you to say arsenal have higher ambitions is a joke of a statement the day your players celebrated coming 4th is the day your club fell apart .

Kerrigooney · 07-12-2014 05:12PM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

Jesus christ... we don't have the money they do!! How can people not get this... we can't afford the wages.

But we can afford to spunk away god knows how much on players that can barely get a place on the bench?

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