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Overtaking cyclists on continuous white line

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  • #32
    Crasp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Crasp


    MascotDec85 wrote: »
    You're first paragraph is wrong. Every rule has a practical exception.

    You should drive in your test the way you usually do.

    would you mind awfully posting the relevant legislation which permits crossing a white line to overtake?


  • #33
    challengemaster
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    MascotDec85 wrote: »
    If you followed the advice I've given on this thread you won't get penalty points.
    I think you'll find you will.
    S.I. No. 294/1964: ROAD TRAFFIC GENERAL BYE-LAWS, 1964. wrote:
    Continuous white lines
    9. An authorised continuous white line along the centre of a roadway shall indicate that traffic must drive to the left of the line, and when on a stretch of roadway on which such a line has been provided a driver shall, save for the purpose of entering or leaving land or premises adjoining the right hand side of that roadway, drive to the left of the line.
    Crossing a continuous white line is a penalty point offence. 2 points and an €80 fixed penalty notice.
    http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Licensed%20Drivers/Penalty%20Points%20Chart1.pdf

    I don't need to clarify anything with the RSA as I'm qualified to advise on the subject and I'm unsure who AGS are.
    So if I were to email the RSA and say that a qualified ADI is advising students to cross a solid white line while overtaking cyclists (committing a traffic offence), they'd have no issue with it? I think they'd revoke your license to teach.

    AGS is An Garda Síochána. Since it's quite clearly laid out in the road traffic act that it's a driving offence, I think they'd have a problem with it too. Here's evidence from boards.ie that it's not O.K.
    These are the types of situations I'm talking about, absolutely not when it's dangerous or you can't see far enough ahead like on approach to a bend or brow etc.
    Just because it's not dangerous - does not mean it's legal.


  • #34
    greyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭greyc


    From the Marking Guidelines issued by the RSA:

    (ii) where an applicant is following behind a slow moving vehicle e.g. a tractor, a cyclist, or a refuse collection truck, and overtakes on a continuous white line a fault should not be recorded.


    One of the questions usually asked by testers before the test is: When can you cross a continuous white line? and the accepted answers are:
    1. To gain access.
    2. in an emergency or to get by an obstruction.
    3. Where there are two lines in the centre of the road, and the one closest to you is a broken line, you may cross the continuous one if safe to do so.


  • #35
    MascotDec85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    Phew! Here was me worried about losing my badge


  • #36
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    greyc wrote: »
    From the Marking Guidelines issued by the RSA:

    (ii) where an applicant is following behind a slow moving vehicle e.g. a tractor, a cyclist, or a refuse collection truck, and overtakes on a continuous white line a fault should not be recorded.
    If you're going to quote guidelines, quote them correctly.
    Examples of ‘Road Marking’ faults include:
    (ii) Disregard for a continuous white line, but where an applicant is following behind a slow moving
    vehicle e.g. a tractor, a cyclist, or a refuse collection truck, and overtakes on a continuous white
    line a fault should not be recorded for ‘Traffic Control’. Where the applicant does stay behind the
    slow vehicle because of the continuous white line, a fault should not be recorded for ‘Progress’    .

    It's a surprising position by the RSA considering it is a penalty points offence... Mascot, I'll accept a draw on this one :pac:

    Seriously though - If you're not getting a fault for progress, the legal thing to do is stay behind until a broken line.


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  • #37
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    challengemaster wrote: »
    If you're going to quote guidelines, quote them correctly.



    It's a surprising position by the RSA considering it is a penalty points offence... Mascot, I'll accept a draw on this one :pac:

    Seriously though - If you're not getting a fault for progress, the legal thing to do is stay behind until a broken line.

    The legal thing is bollocks. It says you cant cross one, except for access. When I did my test a truck was parked near the testing centre, along a stretch with a continuous white line. Going by the letter of the law on continuous white lines I couldn't go past!


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