Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

brevity · 04-12-2014 10:37AM

https://twitter.com/101greatgoals/status/540433154071617536

Eeek.

Wonder what really happened? I initially thought it was a problem with agents fees but, considering what's come out recently, it looks as though we have no problems paying agents fees.

ush · 04-12-2014 11:10AM

brevity wrote: »

Wonder what really happened?

He failed the medical.

Augmerson · 04-12-2014 11:21AM

ush wrote: »

He failed the medical.

This.

Previous teams have taken the risk. Chelsea can take the risk because they're loaded and if they are in a bad way Roman will just spunk up the cash so they can buy another striker. We aren't in that position.

brevity · 04-12-2014 11:35AM

We've a long list of sick notes that passed medicals with the club...Remy has played quite a few games with Newcastle and QPR and doesn't appear to have suffered.

Maybe I'm looking for something that isn't there, the whole thing just seems off to me.

Hidalgo · 04-12-2014 11:40AM

T-K-O wrote: »

Personally I love it. We cannot play any worse yet we are still close to the top 4. Our main rivals are not playing that much better than us by any stretch of the imagination. Everton, Spurs are worse, Utd & Arsenal marginally better.

Then you have West Ham, Southampton et all, these teams will fall away just like every other year.

Utd and Arsenal are the two main obstacles for top 4.
Imo they're playing more than marginally better than Liverpool.
Both have 2 positives that Liverpool lack right now, pace about the pitch and a player a cut above the norm. Sanchez and Rooney/some games Di Maria. This type of player can pull a struggling side along. Right now Liverpool don't have that player

noodler · 04-12-2014 11:43AM

Augmerson wrote: »

This.

Previous teams have taken the risk. Chelsea can take the risk because they're loaded and if they are in a bad way Roman will just spunk up the cash so they can buy another striker. We aren't in that position.

Hah.

No insetad we take risks on 20 year olds and troublemakers!

Harry Palmr · 04-12-2014 12:20PM

Stadium work starts on Monday!

gafferino · 04-12-2014 12:29PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Stadium work starts on Monday!

Hard to believe after all these years.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-anfield-stadium-development-8224760

Francie Barrett · 04-12-2014 12:29PM

brevity wrote: »

https://twitter.com/101greatgoals/status/540433154071617536

Eeek.

Wonder what really happened? I initially thought it was a problem with agents fees but, considering what's come out recently, it looks as though we have no problems paying agents fees.

Remy is in a team that is just humming along incredibly. Drop him into our team, and he's be struggling.

Nerdlingr · 04-12-2014 12:54PM

Whats the knock on effect going to be for the stadium capacity?

04-12-2014 12:55PM

jasonb wrote: »

we're still outsiders for the top 4...

....

Indeed, 4/1 ish

T-K-O wrote: »

Personally I love it. ............

The underdog mentality no doubt suits, coming strong from behind, ohhhhhhhhhh arrrrrrrrrr matron

04-12-2014 12:56PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Whats the knock on effect going to be for the stadium capacity?

13K by the beginning of the 2016-17 season according to the Echo article.
A decent increase in match day revenues, couple that with regular CL and things will be looking good financially.
The club has come on leaps and bounds in many ways in the recent years.

Nerdlingr · 04-12-2014 12:59PM

Augeo wrote: »

13K by the beginning of the 2016-17 season according to the Echo article.
A decent increase in match day revenues, couple that with regular CL and things will be looking good financially.
The club has come on leaps and bounds in many ways in the recent years.

Sorry, meant whats the knock on effect in a negative way whilst its being built. We gonna be reduced to about 35,000?

T-K-O · 04-12-2014 01:03PM

Hidalgo wrote: »

Utd and Arsenal are the two main obstacles for top 4.
Imo they're playing more than marginally better than Liverpool.
Both have 2 positives that Liverpool lack right now, pace about the pitch and a player a cut above the norm. Sanchez and Rooney/some games Di Maria. This type of player can pull a struggling side along. Right now Liverpool don't have that player

Potentially, we could have that player in a few weeks.

From the games I have seen, Utd / Arsenal are struggling and this is backed up by friends who are fans of those clubs.

IF we can sort ourselves out CL is very much a possibility.

04-12-2014 01:08PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Sorry, meant whats the knock on effect in a negative way whilst its being built. We gonna be reduced to about 35,000?

Apologies, negligable I'd imagine, there are two banks of May, June & July in the period to the start of the 2015/2016 season, you'd like to think those two 3 month windows over a planned 20 month project would be the periods where the current capacity would be effected.

kryogen · 04-12-2014 01:14PM

Augmerson wrote: »

This.

Previous teams have taken the risk. Chelsea can take the risk because they're loaded and if they are in a bad way Roman will just spunk up the cash so they can buy another striker. We aren't in that position.

Chelseas business model has changed over the last few years, but thats besides the point.

£10m couldn't be "risked" on Remy.........but £20m could be on Markovic, 16 on Balotelli etc

Doesn't really add up, considering the outlay over the summer, a 10 million figure for Remy doesn't seem like a big risk at all.

klose · 04-12-2014 01:36PM

kryogen wrote: »

Chelseas business model has changed over the last few years, but thats besides the point.

£10m couldn't be "risked" on Remy.........but £20m could be on Markovic, 16 on Balotelli etc

Doesn't really add up, considering the outlay over the summer, a 10 million figure for Remy doesn't seem like a big risk at all.

The main reason ive seen, and obviously there could be a few feasons, is that something was up with his heart and he has failed medicals before. Now obviously the lad is quite happy to play on despite this apparent problem but i imagine after what happened with the club and doni 2 years ago put them off taking the risk. Doni had cardiac arrest in a pre season medical by all accounts. Once bitten, twice shy.

Doni is alive and well btw but had to retire after.

Chucky the tree · 04-12-2014 01:42PM

kryogen wrote: »

Chelseas business model has changed over the last few years, but thats besides the point.

£10m couldn't be "risked" on Remy.........but £20m could be on Markovic, 16 on Balotelli etc

Doesn't really add up, considering the outlay over the summer, a 10 million figure for Remy doesn't seem like a big risk at all.

Markovic and Baloteeli haven't failed medicals so not sure how you say it doesn't add up.

04-12-2014 01:42PM

T-K-O wrote: »

Potentially, we could have that player in a few weeks.

From the games I have seen, Utd / Arsenal are struggling and this is backed up by friends who are fans of those clubs.

IF we can sort ourselves out CL is very much a possibility.

The scope for Arsenal and United to sort themselves out is far more than that of Liverpool. Hamming on about Sturridge all season when Falcao, Rafael, Shaw and now Di Maria spending time on the sidelines amongst many squad players for United and Ozil, Koscielny, Giroud, Walcott and Debuchy missing for Arsenal amongst others is a bit clutching at straws. Arsenal have now sorted out their defense purely from getting Koscielny back and I hate to think how their attack could flourish with Ozil back in the fold feeding Sanchez. United's attack is getting a bit better and the defence has been solid for over a month now. Sturridge could make a big difference but enough to counteract the improvement of these 2 teams? I don't think so. Then there's still Southampton who could easily turn over United at home on Monday.

It is all to play for but I think Liverpool have both played the worst by far out of all these teams and have the least scope for improvement as the personnel currently stands.

5starpool · 04-12-2014 02:13PM

Augeo wrote: »

Apologies, negligable I'd imagine, there are two banks of May, June & July in the period to the start of the 2015/2016 season, you'd like to think those two 3 month windows over a planned 20 month project would be the periods where the current capacity would be effected.

No reduction in capacity at any stage is planned during construction.

Lord Trollington · 04-12-2014 02:24PM

Wildred Bony.

Discuss

04-12-2014 02:25PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Markovic and Baloteeli haven't failed medicals so not sure how you say it doesn't add up.

Yeah weird comparison.

NukaCola · 04-12-2014 02:33PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Wildred Bony.

Discuss

Wilfrieds lesser known younger brother, not the finished product but has great potential.

Lord Trollington · 04-12-2014 02:40PM

NukaCola wrote: »

Wilfrieds lesser known younger brother, not the finished product but has great potential.

What mother would call their sons the same name only adding and I .

I bet her favorite is Wilfred without the i

NukaCola · 04-12-2014 02:44PM

Bony scores goals. Whats not to like?

To be perfectly honest when we were linked to him I had some foolish hope that we were in for a top quality striker and I was turning up my nose to the link. Never thought he would fit into our great system BR had once upon a time.

He'd be an instant upgrade in terms of productivity and output on what we have.

Augmerson · 04-12-2014 02:46PM

kryogen wrote: »

Chelseas business model has changed over the last few years, but thats besides the point.

£10m couldn't be "risked" on Remy.........but £20m could be on Markovic, 16 on Balotelli etc

Doesn't really add up, considering the outlay over the summer, a 10 million figure for Remy doesn't seem like a big risk at all.

Remy failed a medical.
Markovic and Balotelli passed their medicals.

It add's up.

NukaCola · 04-12-2014 02:46PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

What mother would call their sons the same name only adding and I .

I bet her favorite is Wilfred without the i

Her favourite is Wilifred his little sister :pac:

shamrock55 · 04-12-2014 02:51PM

The best way for us to get cl for nxt year is to get knocked out of it against basel , and win the uefa cup..... sorted!!

NukaCola · 04-12-2014 02:59PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Remy failed a medical.
Markovic and Balotelli passed their medicals.

It add's up.

But Remy passed his medical at Chelsea. Whatever risk he had was deemed not serious enough to stop that transfer. Someone said thats a risk Chelsea can take but we couldn't.

So the poster is saying the risk of buying Remy failing a medical is less than a risk of signing Balottelli/Markovic.

Personally I would like to think its more of a money issue and is not quite so simple. Liverpool found an issue with the players heart (allegedly) and after getting a second opinion did not think he could play for Liverpool with that condition.

NukaCola · 04-12-2014 03:03PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

The best way for us to get cl for nxt year is to get knocked out of it against basel , and win the uefa cup..... sorted!!

Nah, lets just win the CL instead. Sorted! :P

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