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Nari85 · 30-11-2014 07:13PM #1

Just got a 166 euro fine for not having a ticket. I had bought my ticket online as i always do. My wallet was stolen/lost last night. I had to borrow ten euro to get to the train station. I explained the situation in Heuston and they let me on. When I boarded the train Mallow a ticket inspector came on. I went up to him privately between carriages to explain my situation. I had my reservation number. He went away and checked my details. I was on the correct train, i even had a seat reserved. He then told me that he was going to fine me. I'm just so annoyed I always use the train when going to dublin. I feel after this Im never using their service again.

The_Valeyard · 30-11-2014 07:14PM

Ring them up Monday. That's ridiculous.

pebbles21 · 30-11-2014 07:18PM

Appeal the fine in writing with all your details etc.,you will be grand ..relax you came across a jobsworth

braddun · 30-11-2014 07:19PM

print out your online ticket

Umaro · 30-11-2014 07:21PM

The guy sounds like a spanner. I hope you appeal it.

ROCKMAN · 30-11-2014 07:21PM

Nari85 wrote: »

Just got a 166 euro fine for not having a ticket. I had bought my ticket online as i always do. My wallet was stolen/lost last night. I had to borrow ten euro to get to the train station. I explained the situation in Heuston and they let me on. When I boarded the train Mallow a ticket inspector came on. I went up to him privately between carriages to explain my situation. I had my reservation number. He went away and checked my details. I was on the correct train, i even had a seat reserved. He then told me that he was going to fine me. I'm just so annoyed I always use the train when going to dublin. I feel after this Im never using their service again.

If you pay this without a less a phone call ,you will be a muppet ,
Surely you have enough evidence on your side to at least appeal/fight the case.
Don't take this lying down.

fxotoole · 30-11-2014 07:26PM

Irish Rail have become obsessed with "Revenue Protection" in recent years and are fining people left , right, and centre.

Not sure why your wallet being lost/stolen is relevant? Did you have a printout of the reservation in your wallet or something?

Anyway, appeal the fine, providing details of your ticket reservation, and any other relevant details. When writing your appeal, use the wording "I had no intention of defrauding the company", and you should be grand.

iDave · 30-11-2014 07:30PM

I'd like to think the 166 will go towards solving the multitude of signal faults but I somehow doubt.

Links234 · 30-11-2014 07:32PM

I really wish they'd open things up to private railway companies in this country, a bit of competition would go a long way.

donvito99 · 30-11-2014 07:32PM

Unless you got some sort of official note from the bloke at Heuston I see no reason why the inspector should have believed you. Probably hears similar excuses a dozen times a day.

twinytwo · 30-11-2014 07:41PM

Links234 wrote: »

I really wish they'd open things up to private railway companies in this country, a bit of competition would go a long way.

i wish, unions wouldnt have it, place would be shut down.... how dare someone try to bring in cheaper and more reliable options.

Captain Chaos · 30-11-2014 07:44PM

No ticket, no travel. Simple rules. Rules state you have to in possession of the correct ticket for the correct rain when you travel, no if's but's, my dog ate it etc.

Exact rules apply with Transdev who run the Luas, private company with the same rules......the shock and cheek of them.

Yamanoto · 30-11-2014 07:45PM

Nari85 wrote: »

He went away and checked my details. I was on the correct train, i even had a seat reserved.

So how did he justify issuing the fine?

Presumably he explained his reasoning to you.

Mr.Crinklewood · 30-11-2014 07:46PM

Inspector may have thought you printed off your ticket and sold it to someone else.

Captain Chaos · 30-11-2014 07:48PM

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Inspector may have thought you printed off your ticket and sold it to someone else.

Bingo.

stehyl15 · 30-11-2014 07:49PM

I dont see why IE spend money removing grafiti off trains dont why they dont just leave there saving money the trains can still move cant they

galwayjohn89 · 30-11-2014 07:52PM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

No ticket, no travel. Simple rules. Rules state you have to in possession of the correct ticket for the correct rain when you travel, no if's but's, my dog ate it etc.

Exact rules apply with Transdev who run the Luas, private company with the same rules......the shock and cheek of them.

I've been checked on the Luas when I didn't have a ticket, leap system was down and didn't have cash. No fine, just an apology.

On the dart ticket machine in Dalkey was broken, got fined in pearse. Finally got it thrown out.

In my experience the difference between Luas and DART is vast

Heisenberg1 · 30-11-2014 07:54PM

Links234 wrote: »

I really wish they'd open things up to private railway companies in this country, a bit of competition would go a long way.

And how much do you think fares will be then ??

fxotoole · 30-11-2014 07:55PM

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

And how much do you think fares will be then ??

Cheaper than they are now.

Heisenberg1 · 30-11-2014 07:57PM

Vuzuggu wrote: »

I've been checked on the Luas when I didn't have a ticket, leap system was down and didn't have cash. No fine, just an apology.

On the dart ticket machine in Dalkey was broken, got fined in pearse. Finally got it thrown out.

In my experience the difference between Luas and DART is vast

But you had a leap card right what's point ?

Captain Chaos · 30-11-2014 07:57PM

Vuzuggu wrote: »

I've been checked on the Luas when I didn't have a ticket, leap system was down and didn't have cash. No fine, just an apology.

On the dart ticket machine in Dalkey was broken, got fined in pearse. Finally got it thrown out.

In my experience the difference between Luas and DART is vast

Just got lucky with the inspectors on the Luas as they shy away from conflict alot of time. Same rules apply though.

Even if you do get fined when Leap goes down you get it appealed. I have many times on both. Leap goes down alot and then you have vandals wrecking the validators.

Heisenberg1 · 30-11-2014 07:59PM

fxotoole wrote: »

Cheaper than they are now.

That's nonsense fares would not be cheaper with another operator they would be much more expensive look at the UK for example.

biomed32 · 30-11-2014 07:59PM

No ticket, no travel. I understand your frustration but was there any opportunity to print out your receipt again through your email so at least you would have something in hand. If you knew you didnt have the ticket in the morning and didn't reprint the ticket from the email its pure laziness.

We all have our gripes with public transport, believe me when I say go ahead with the appeal, you may or may not get it.

jhud · 30-11-2014 08:05PM

Someone I know lost ticket and was going to be fined but they told them where and when they bought ticket a and they cancelled fine

jhud · 30-11-2014 08:05PM

Someone I know lost ticket and was going to be fined but they told them where and when they bought ticket a and they cancelled fine

YellowFeather · 30-11-2014 08:09PM

Kinda the opposite happened to me a few years back. I was on the train from Dublin to Sligo, which I took almost every Friday, and I foolishly fell asleep with my bag beside me.

Woke up to the ticket inspector coming through the carriage and went to my bag for my wallet - and it was gone. Was a bit of a disaster 'cause I had a fair bit of cash in it too for booking a holiday the following day.

The inspector couldn't have been nicer, and reported everything to the guards while I cancelled my cards.

Wallet eventually turned up in Longford. Minus the cash of course.

PizzamanIRL · 30-11-2014 08:10PM

I like to annoy ticket inspectors sometimes if I get a bad vibe from them. I'll pretend I can't find my ticket and then they're about to tell me about how he's going to fine me, I say Oh wait here it is!...

Bubbaclaus · 30-11-2014 08:11PM

No ticket, no travel.

Zillah · 30-11-2014 08:12PM

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I like to annoy ticket inspectors sometimes if I get a bad vibe from them. I'll pretend I can't find my ticket and then they're about to tell me about how he's going to fine me, I say Oh wait here it is!...

I do this with my allergic friend's epipen, it's hilarious.

Molester Stallone II · 30-11-2014 08:13PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

No ticket, no travel.

No woman, no cry

ClovenHoof · 30-11-2014 09:07PM

Just do not ask questions about the 'Family' who run the train station in Cork who went on strike a few years back after one of the younger members of family were fired for 'accounting irregularities' with cash fares. He got his job back.

"Larkin" and all that...

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