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  • #62
    Starokan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Starokan


    I find it a good forum, i don't really post here as I tend to access boards every few days and much of the points I would make have been made already but nonetheless I get a lot from the threads and enjoy reading them.

    I could see why some of the stuff posted (as quoted earlier in this thread) would be off putting , if i see an obvious trolling post I tend to just ignore and move on and I suspect that's what a lot of the regular readers/posters do.

    There will always be differences in opinions when so many people from such different walks of life are involved, for anyone that gets offended by something the best policy is report the post and see it for what it is- an effort to get a reaction , once reported ignore and move on and trust it will be dealt with. The less head space you give it the better, move on and engage with posters that are willing to debate in a constructive manner and your overall site experience will be so much better .


  • #63
    Slattsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    The forum needs more Slattsy.
    In my honest opinion :-)


  • #64
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,359 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I like this forum, there are some interesting threads on at the moment.


  • #65
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    I think when we are discussing topics specifically around domestic abuse and sexism we should be allowed to do so without certain female posters infiltrating the thread to ridicule the male perspective or to turn the conversation to what men do to women etc.

    We had a barrage of posts recently with a female poster obliterating a thread with an obsessive use of the word 'patriarch'. I literally never want to see that word again.

    It also appears that the female posters that frequent here lately (not all) are merely here not to discuss the topic but to question every post.

    Other than that it's a fine forum and it's quite clear some of the subjects discussed badly need to be discussed.


  • #66
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    OK, I'll try again.

    I think the forum needs a lighter tone. On a couple of occasions I've seen mods actually come in and tell people to knock off the joke, the first time someone says anything g mildly facetious, or, ye know, like, whatever. I think it can almost be stiflingly serious in this forum, and a lighter more fun atmosphere would not only make posting in here a more pleasant experience but would also diffuse a lot of the tension that can exist in threads and between posters. So I think moderation of people joking around and making light should be massively relaxed, I think the forum would benefit greatly from it. That's my feedback.


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  • #67
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Great idea for a forum. A big thank you to everyone who makes it possible.


  • #68
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 19,112 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    There's a cluster of threads that pop up I don't really have an interest in. Sex, nightclubs, social etiquette/other stuff around relationships. There can be a moths to a flame vibe going on, potential loggerheads and that's usually an automatic turn off re my interest in reading further.

    I've seen the mods here type in bold on a daily basis. Not just to lock threads that skirt close to seeking medical advice. Nobody should be hesitant of reporting posts.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



  • #69
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,521 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    There's a cluster of threads that pop up I don't really have an interest in. Sex, nightclubs, social etiquette/other stuff around relationships. There can be a moths to a flame vibe going on, potential loggerheads and that's usually an automatic turn off re my interest in reading further.

    Why not start a thread of your own about something you're interested in? There's one about literature, one for sports and so on...

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #70
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 19,112 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Ah, I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining as to the range of topics - more that I was unaware the instances of trolling cited here. It's a good forum, interpretation as to its tone, I can see why some might question it.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



  • #71
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,169 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I would have only minor complaints about the tone of some threads. The "circumcision" thread sometimes veers perilously close to advocacy of circumcision for non-medical reasons, which I would find unacceptable.

    Then there's the "Easy on the Eye" thread, which in my opinion is too biased towards heavily-Photoshopped FHM / Maxim / Nuts scantily-clad "glamour models". (The dead eyes on this girl's airbrushed face, for example, are a complete turn-off, ruining whatever other charms she might have.)

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



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  • #72
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Mod:

    Don Kedick, please don't post in this thread again.

    Any more trolling and/or off topic posting and you will receive a ban.

    Please make sure to familiarize yourself with the forum charter before you post anywhere else.


  • #73
    Yorker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Yorker


    I think you should allow discussion of PUA. Some of the ideas may be of help to the OP of this http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057275988

    And comments critical of PUA may also help that OP. I think also it is a bit narrow minded to totally ban a subject for discussion. After all people are adults and can take or leave any ideas that arise from such discussion


  • #74
    skallywag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭skallywag


    I must say I also don't really see the rationale behind banning such discussion. Is there some legal history etc behind this decision?


  • #75
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Dav had the following view on a PUA forum request. I realise that it was a forum request and this is a request for general discussion of the topic but the principle is the same. The view is that discussion of PUA techniques is not allowed. Feel free to bring it to the Feedback forum if you want.

    Link:
    Dav wrote:
    Just for the record, we are NEVER having a PUA forum on this site.


  • #76
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    py2006 wrote: »
    I think when we are discussing topics specifically around domestic abuse and sexism we should be allowed to do so without certain female posters infiltrating the thread to ridicule the male perspective or to turn the conversation to what men do to women etc.

    We had a barrage of posts recently with a female poster obliterating a thread with an obsessive use of the word 'patriarch'. I literally never want to see that word again.

    It also appears that the female posters that frequent here lately (not all) are merely here not to discuss the topic but to question every post.

    Other than that it's a fine forum and it's quite clear some of the subjects discussed badly need to be discussed.
    This! And I'd love to see a ban on the words "patriarchy" and "mansplaining"!

    But on a more serious note - fair play mods you do a good thankless job.


  • #77
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,521 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The Mustard wrote: »
    Dav had the following view on a PUA forum request. I realise that it was a forum request and this is a request for general discussion of the topic but the principle is the same. The view is that discussion of PUA techniques is not allowed. Feel free to bring it to the Feedback forum if you want.

    Link:

    Would discussion of the ethics/morals of PUA be banned as well? I was thinking of starting a thread on that but never got round to it.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #78
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,454 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    PUA would seem to me to be a very manipulative way of trying to get laid. Not very gentlemanly imho. It has been banned around these parts as long as I remember and if Dav is against it then it isn't going to happen.
    As Mustard said the feedback thread is probably the best place to bring it up.
    Even were boards as a site to allow it I personally would think long and hard before allowing it on this forum.
    Zulu wrote: »
    This! And I'd love to see a ban on the words "patriarchy" and "mansplaining"!
    It is a good way to weed out trolls or posters who cannot back up their arguments. I haven't seen anyone use the term mansplaining on this forum though (other than Wibbs).


  • #79
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,521 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    PUA would seem to me to be a very manipulative way of trying to get laid. Not very gentlemanly imho. It has been banned around these parts as long as I remember and if Dav is against it then it isn't going to happen.
    As Mustard said the feedback thread is probably the best place to bring it up.
    Even were boards as a site to allow it I personally would think long and hard before allowing it on this forum.

    I got about a fifth of the way through the Game before putting it down out of disgust. When I said I was tempted to start a thread, I was referring to the reasons why it's gaining a foothold and why so many men feel that getting laid a lot with several different men is the main goal in life.
    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    It is a good way to weed out trolls or posters who cannot back up their arguments. I haven't seen anyone use the term mansplaining on this forum though (other than Wibbs).

    Not a fan of censorship especially when we can report posts. It is irritating to see threads about sexism against men and men's rights being derailed with whataboutery so I can see why some members might like the idea. Ultimately a mod decision, just my 2 cents.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #80
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,454 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    I got about a fifth of the way through the Game before putting it down out of disgust. When I said I was tempted to start a thread, I was referring to the reasons why it's gaining a foothold and why so many men feel that getting laid a lot with several different men is the main goal in life.
    Ah yeah I gotcha. My response was for the general PUA discussion rather than a response to your post


  • #81
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,521 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Ah yeah I gotcha. My response was for the general PUA discussion rather than a response to your post

    Ah. Ok so.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #82
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Zulu wrote: »
    But on a more serious note - fair play mods you do a good thankless job.
    Thanks for that Zed :)*paypal sent to usual address...*
    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Would discussion of the ethics/morals of PUA be banned as well? I was thinking of starting a thread on that but never got round to it.
    Could well be an interesting discussion alright. It is a well known thing on t'interwebs and it seems that quite the number of men are reading about it. It and the whole "red pill" stuff. Other than the numerous issues I have with it - uppermost how it can exploit too many young and not so young men who feel left behind/adrift - one could argue that it's an (largely)internet based ongoing social experiment in some aspects of men/women dynamics in attraction and dating and the like, with a sideorder of cultural differences, which may be worth exploring in a debate.
    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    I haven't seen anyone use the term mansplaining on this forum though (other than Wibbs).
    :eek: Blue on blue action eh.
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    :D:pac::pac:

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #83
    Yorker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Yorker


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Ah yeah I gotcha. My response was for the general PUA discussion rather than a response to your post
    To clarify i was not suggesting It should be a how to like he seems to want

    I meant it should be ok to discuss and criticise the claims they make
    Originally Posted by Dav
    Just for the record, we are NEVER having a PUA forum on this site.
    possibly says more about DAV than PUA. If I am to be banned for speaking my mind fair enough


  • #84
    Lemming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,162 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Hi guys, I'd like to make a suggestion inspired by a comment by Piliger on the Mens rights thread;
    Piliger wrote: »
    In the interests of equal rights, the word patriarchy should treated the same as the fem**** word which is banned and any user is banned for using it.

    So, we don't allow use of the fem-in-jackboots expression, and further to that I think that banning use of that lazy soundbite 'patriarchy' would improve discussion.


    Edit: I see Zulu got in before me a few posts above. Never mind; I'll second his suggestion so (well, third technically since I'm seconding Piliger :D )


  • #85
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,521 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Could well be an interesting discussion alright. It is a well known thing on t'interwebs and it seems that quite the number of men are reading about it. It and the whole "red pill" stuff. Other than the numerous issues I have with it - uppermost how it can exploit too many young and not so young men who feel left behind/adrift - one could argue that it's an (largely)internet based ongoing social experiment in some aspects of men/women dynamics in attraction and dating and the like, with a sideorder of cultural differences, which may be worth exploring in a debate.

    Precisely my point.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #86
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Lemming wrote: »
    So, we don't allow use of the fem-in-jackboots expression, and further to that I think that banning use of that lazy soundbite 'patriarchy' would improve discussion.

    Patriarchy is a valid word used to describe a type of social system. Therefore, as annoying as some people may find the word, it shouldn't be disallowed.

    On the other hand 'feminazi' (if I may be excused from directly mentioning it) is a derogatory slang word, which is not allowed for that reason.

    I don't believe that these words are in the same league.


  • #87
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,454 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Lemming wrote: »
    So, we don't allow use of the fem-in-jackboots expression, and further to that I think that banning use of that lazy soundbite 'patriarchy' would improve discussion.
    I agree to an extent annd see the word used as a lazy way to make a point in probably 100% of cases. That said we have been warning people for lazy use of the word and treating the use without expansion as trolling so to that extent it is on our 'watch list' so to speak. Feminazi on the other hand is more a term of abuse than anything else. Used in the context as a term of abuse is the issue we have with it. Noone has ever been banned for using the term though (to my recollection).
    I am not a fan of banning words that lead to people being carded four unintentional slip ups.


  • #88
    D'Agger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    Yorker wrote: »
    possibly says more about DAV than PUA. If I am to be banned for speaking my mind fair enough

    It says more about the mantra of boards.ie as a website - not Dav as an individual.


  • #89
    skallywag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭skallywag


    At the risk of being exposed as completely ignorant, who is this 'DAV' that some speak of? (perhaps some type of modern day internet DeValera figure?).

    Sorry, just kidding, I genuinely don't know ...


  • #90
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 19,112 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    He's the Community Manager for Boards. He's the human face between the site and its members, essentially. See here, for example. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057344950

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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  • #91
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Would discussion of the ethics/morals of PUA be banned as well? I was thinking of starting a thread on that but never got round to it.

    You can get the ball rolling on that if you want. There'll have to be a mod warning etc.


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