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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,008 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    I honestly don't think there will be any additions in January, I remember Rodgers saying that
    the Summer gone was going to be the biggest transfer window for a number of years.
    I hope our poor form makes him rethink that statement.

    This is the quote: “biggest window for the next few years”
    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/15/brendan-rodgers-liverpool-luis-suarez


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,567 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    It's not ridiculous to think we'd have a chance of signing Reus. Dortmund were bottom for 24 hours and aren't too much better off now, and apart from their CL run, their season is pretty much over.

    If he doesn't come to us in January, he'll go to Munich. Dortmund are a sinking ship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭mosstin


    martyos121 wrote: »
    It's not ridiculous to think we'd have a chance of signing Reus. Dortmund were bottom for 24 hours and aren't too much better of now, and apart from their CL run, their season is pretty much over.

    If he doesn't come to us in January, he'll go to Munich. Dortmund are a sinking ship.

    It is ridiculous. We have consistently shown that we're incapable of signing the biggest names in Europe and Reus falls into that category. Why would Reus - if he were to jump ship - leave Dortmund with their struggles, for Liverpool, with ours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,567 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    mosstin wrote: »
    It is ridiculous. We have consistently shown that we're incapable of signing the biggest names in Europe and Reus falls into that category. Why would Reus - if he were to jump ship - leave Dortmund with their struggles, for Liverpool, with ours?

    Why? I could think of a few million r£a$on$.

    As I said though, if Munich do want him, they WILL get him. We can't compete with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wouldn't mind us trying for Walcott in January to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,567 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I wouldn't mind us trying for Walcott in January to be honest.

    Poor Zaf has his work cut out for him with Sturridge, Walcott would push his sanity over the edge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Pilsbury Doughboy


    I wouldn't mind us trying for Walcott in January to be honest.


    I thought I heard recently he's either in talks for a new contract or that he has signed a new contract.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,893 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    martyos121 wrote: »
    It's not ridiculous to think we'd have a chance of signing Reus. Dortmund were bottom for 24 hours and aren't too much better off now, and apart from their CL run, their season is pretty much over.

    If he doesn't come to us in January, he'll go to Munich. Dortmund are a sinking ship.

    What? Apart from being in the next round of the premier European cup competition that we are struggling to qualify for, their season is over but ours isn't? If, and it's a massive if, we sign him it'll be for money. I can't see us being his most attractive or even lucrative offer if he does move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,224 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    martyos121 wrote: »
    It's not ridiculous to think we'd have a chance of signing Reus. Dortmund were bottom for 24 hours and aren't too much better off now, and apart from their CL run, their season is pretty much over.

    If he doesn't come to us in January, he'll go to Munich. Dortmund are a sinking ship.

    Zero chance he is probably one of the best forwards in europe. You honestly think it's between us and dortmund? Chelsea, city, real, United, munich and psg will all be queuing up for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,798 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Augeo wrote: »
    Lol, did you not consider Alan seemingly disregarding sturridge's contribution last year as bad posting?

    Also I didn't see Rodgers excellent job of clearing out all the sh1t Roy and Kenny bought appearing on the pro list. Also he claims Rodgers didn't want sturridge so he gets no credit for that transfer, but he gets 100% blame for all other transfers, a reasonable summary it wasmost certainly not.

    Well, that's a response to the original post - good lad. Goading him over Rafa was not.

    A new manager in tomorrow would have work on his hands clearing out some **** Rodgers has bought btw.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    All the other teams have shown substantially more than us IMO. They're much more likely to put a solid run together. We need to go back into the transfer market to have any chance.

    I'll judge that when Daniel Sturrigde is back playing . Get him fit get him games and see how LFC look in the table .


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The thing I love about Sturridge apart from his goals are his goalkeeping skills, central defensive organisational skills, midfield defensive duties & play making, corner taking and full back discipline.

    So glad he's nearly back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    The thing I love about Sturridge apart from his goals are his goalkeeping skills, central defensive organisational skills, midfield defensive duties & play making, corner taking and full back discipline.

    So glad he's nearly back

    I honestly do believe he will fix one problem with the lack of goals and hopefully him and ballotelli can strike up some sort of partnership too .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    On Sturridge..


    He is not the answer to all that is wrong with the team at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭BenEadir


    martyos121 wrote: »
    It's not ridiculous to think we'd have a chance of signing Reus. Dortmund were bottom for 24 hours and aren't too much better off now, and apart from their CL run, their season is pretty much over.

    If he doesn't come to us in January, he'll go to Munich. Dortmund are a sinking ship.

    There are at least 10 clubs in Europe who Reus (or any other top player) would prefer to sign for than Liverpool due to bigger financial clout and/or location and/or ability to consistently challenge for top honours such as:-

    Barcelona
    Real Madrid
    Munich
    PSG
    Marseille
    Juventus
    Chelsea
    Arsenal
    Man United
    Man City


    If any of the above clubs want to sign a player we're also interested in they'll get him, simple as.

    We need to be pragmatic about how we focus our recruitment resources. Putting time and effort into chasing a player who'll have his pick of top clubs may keep some fans happy that we're "competing" for the best players but in reality it's just a PR exercise and a waste of time. We have to identify raw talent which we can develop (Sterling, Moreno, Origi, Suarez, Markovic, Manquillo, Can), recruit talent which is flawed and capable of being harnessed (Balotelli) or is simply not on the wish list of clubs mentioned above such as Mingolet, Lovern and Sturridge and hope we've identified something in those players that the other clubs haven't. I guess one out of three isn't too bad :o

    We really do need to stop fooling ourselves when it comes to transfers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    If we sign Reus I'll eat me prick!

    Wish people would give up on this story, no way will he come to us!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭benny79


    Can people tell me why he took Can off for Joe fcuking Allen! He was our best people by far on sat absolutely shocking Sub and I heard Rodgers was getting Booed when he subbed Courtinho and rightly so! I have lost all faith in Rodgers now, There's no way Johnson or Lovern should of started especially since the other lads put in a great performance Tues like what do they have to do to get a start!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Mumha


    mosstin wrote: »
    When Sturridge is back, at least then there can be no more excuses.

    Sturridge is part of the solution, not all the solution. You look at last year and Suarez/Sturridge/Sterling were all busy frontmen, putting in a huge amount of movement off the ball - defenders were run ragged trying to stay with them. That isn't what Balotelli is about. We're basing our hopes on Balotelli and Sturridge clicking on the Spurs came, but it could be that Spurs were just crap that day. If they haven't clicked by the opening of the Jan transfer window, Liverpool need to take a view on it, and go and pay the big money for a top class Reus type character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Just a thought on the whole Suarez leaving affecting the team..

    Costa leaving Atletico Madrid hasn't seemed to affected them and he is a player that shot them to a title and a CL final.

    They seem to have replaced him quite well and they wouldn't have the kind of money we have to spend and also they wouldn't have the biggest squad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭rgiller


    Just a thought on the whole Suarez leaving affecting the team..

    Costa leaving Atletico Madrid hasn't seemed to affected them and he is a player that shot them to a title and a CL final.

    They seem to have replaced him quite well and they wouldn't have the kind of money we have to spend and also they wouldn't have the biggest squad.

    They've got a good manager though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Mumha


    rgiller wrote: »
    They've got a good manager though

    So have we.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Steven Gerrard.

    What are your plans after you retire, are we more likely to see you in the studio or on the touch-line?
    We'll have to wait and see, I'm keeping my options open. I've started my coaching badges: I've just passed my C-license, and I'm going onto my B as we speak. So I'll get all the qualifications needed and then we'll see if I'm good enough. I will probably do some media work in the beginning; I think if you love the game you always want to stay involved. Of course, the dream scenario is to one day manage Liverpool but that's easier said than done, time will tell.

    http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2014-11/04/steven-gerrard-picks-his-best-ever-liverpool-eleven


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Mumha wrote: »
    So have we.

    Have you read the last 10 pages or so?

    Like it or not,Suarez & Sturridge papered over a lot of cracks last season and between the 2 they provided not just goals but the creativity and workrate (Suarez) which helped to beat teams.
    Rodgers spent the Suarez money on a lot of average players,in truth his first season wasn't great and it took an amazing season from a couple of players to make the team look more than the sum of it's parts,now one is gone and nobody is there to carry them so it's back to square one.
    Looking in it seems he's very arrogant and the way he dismissed the idea of working under a DOF reinforced this yet now it's come back to haunt him,he can blame nobody but himself for the state the squad is in.

    People laughed at United last season & proclaimed we'd get nobody after that,Di Maria & Falcao are superstars & they joined,of course things are far from perfect but at least there's signs of improvement.Liverpool just aren't as attractive to the big names and don't have the wage structure to entice them from going to United,City or the bright lights of London.

    To be brutally honest,Rodgers wasted a couple of hundred million on squad players when a few top notch ones were needed,I doubt he's going to be backed as much financially again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    zerks wrote: »
    Have you read the last 10 pages or so?

    Like it or not,Suarez & Sturridge papered over a lot of cracks last season and between the 2 they provided not just goals but the creativity and workrate (Suarez) which helped to beat teams.
    Rodgers spent the Suarez money on a lot of average players,in truth his first season wasn't great and it took an amazing season from a couple of players to make the team look more than the sum of it's parts,now one is gone and nobody is there to carry them so it's back to square one.
    Looking in it seems he's very arrogant and the way he dismissed the idea of working under a DOF reinforced this yet now it's come back to haunt him,he can blame nobody but himself for the state the squad is in.

    People laughed at United last season & proclaimed we'd get nobody after that,Di Maria & Falcao are superstars & they joined,of course things are far from perfect but at least there's signs of improvement.Liverpool just aren't as attractive to the big names and don't have the wage structure to entice them from going to United,City or the bright lights of London.

    To be brutally honest,Rodgers wasted a couple of hundred million on squad players when a few top notch ones were needed,I doubt he's going to be backed as much financially again.

    All of which shows how much you know about Liverpool workings - while there is no Director of Football there is a transfer committee and they between them arrived at the squad the team now has.

    Fulham whiz kid Patrick Roberts in January say the rags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Even the manager is saying players don't want to move and live in Liverpool.

    Looks like we'll never be able to sign a top name again.
    Rodgers suggested geography was against him in his efforts to sign foreign stars, with the lure of the capital too much for some, despite Liverpool's readiness to offer lucrative contracts.
    "Players look at where they want to live, the social factors as well as the football," he added. "If someone gets offered more money to go elsewhere, if they want to go to London, there is not much you can do about it.

    "We know what targets we wanted but, for one reason or another, they went elsewhere," Rodgers said. "We have signed talented young players. Over their time here, whether it is with me or not, they will show they are very good players.

    http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/367121.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

    So the question is did we spend over £100m on second and third choice players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    All of which shows how much you know about Liverpool workings - while there is no Director of Football there is a transfer committee and they between them arrived at the squad the team now has.

    Fulham whiz kid Patrick Roberts in January say the rags.

    Guess who has the final say on transfers? Brendan.He almost didn't take the job over that detail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    zerks wrote: »
    Have you read the last 10 pages or so?

    Like it or not,Suarez & Sturridge papered over a lot of cracks last season and between the 2 they provided not just goals but the creativity and workrate (Suarez) which helped to beat teams.
    Rodgers spent the Suarez money on a lot of average players,in truth his first season wasn't great and it took an amazing season from a couple of players to make the team look more than the sum of it's parts,now one is gone and nobody is there to carry them so it's back to square one.
    Looking in it seems he's very arrogant and the way he dismissed the idea of working under a DOF reinforced this yet now it's come back to haunt him,he can blame nobody but himself for the state the squad is in.

    People laughed at United last season & proclaimed we'd get nobody after that,Di Maria & Falcao are superstars & they joined,of course things are far from perfect but at least there's signs of improvement.Liverpool just aren't as attractive to the big names and don't have the wage structure to entice them from going to United,City or the bright lights of London.

    To be brutally honest,Rodgers wasted a couple of hundred million on squad players when a few top notch ones were needed,I doubt he's going to be backed as much financially again.
    Rodgers set up a tyle of play to suit them perfectly & they also improved under Rodgers management.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Crash Bang Wall


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Can, Gerrard, Lallana, Henderson in a diamond? Sterling in behind Ballotelli?

    A proper 4231 for me

    Ming

    Manquillo
    Toure
    Sakho
    Moreno

    Can
    Gerrard

    Sterling
    Coutinho
    Lallana

    Sturridge

    If sturridge isnt fit then Id have Borini in ahead of Mario

    A bit of defensive solidity to try and get a clean sheet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Crash Bang Wall


    Those pictures are the exact moment in the game I was talking about in my last few posts. His starting position was dictated by the manager not by Johnson. It just shows how a player can take a beating for something which isn't his fault.

    There is enough people on here saying that he was effectively told to man mark Hazard. Im not Johnsons biggest fan, but if the gaffer says do something, you do it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    A proper 4231 for me

    Ming

    Manquillo Flanagan
    Toure
    Sakho
    Moreno

    Can
    GerrardHenderson

    Sterling
    Coutinho
    Lallana

    Sturridge

    If sturridge isnt fit then Id have Borini in ahead of Mario

    A bit of defensive solidity to try and get a clean sheet

    Replace Gerrard & Manquillo with Henderson & Flanagan and I would agree with you.


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