Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So the back papers tomorrow have us looking to sign Fabian Delph!

FFS do we not learn anything from transfers!!!

Hendo 2.0 - works hard and does simple things right but not what we need. We need quality. That said I've been impressed any time I've seen him over the past year.

Vicxas wrote: »

Watch us jizz way over the odds for berahinio in January too.

Everytime we splooge over the odds on a player I get annoyed - at least Berahinio looks electric and he's the perfect profile of player to learn from Sturridge....if he isn't perma-injured obviously. His finishing seems top notch already - that 1v1 with De Gea this season was quality.

Oranage2 wrote: »

United are really struggling, they have their first team available and there doesn't look like any improvement

Liverpool have been playing quite poorly too, but the difference is Liverpool have some of their best players injured

Hold up a sec, United have not had a first choice back 4 all year, some of the players who have played centre half weren't even heard of by some of their own fans. Falcao hasn't played 90mins yet and missed the last 2, Herrera missed half the games so far through injury, Rooney got banned for 3 games. Take a look at who plays back 4 for them this weekend and you'll see what I mean.

I have no love for United or anything but I strongly disagree that they "have their first team available". I'd argue the complete opposite. I can't think of 1 league game this year where the best XI has been put out

Francie Barrett wrote: »

He's available on a free though, with that in mind, I would have him.

Definitely

5live wrote: »

I don't see us buying a forward this winter transfer window, unless one of our strikers is injured or sold.

We have Origi coming in for next season and another striker would leave us top-heavy in numbers if not in quality.

If the club has the same thinking we can forget about Top 4. Goals, goals and goals that is what we need. We have some very talented attacking players but only one real goal scorer and he's a sick note.

D'Agger wrote: »

Hendo 2.0 - works hard and does simple things right but not what we need. We need quality. That said I've been impressed any time I've seen him over the past year.

Or Downing 2.0

D'Agger wrote: »

Everytime we splooge over the odds on a player I get annoyed - at least Berahinio looks electric and he's the perfect profile of player to learn from Sturridge....if he isn't perma-injured obviously. His finishing seems top notch already - that 1v1 with De Gea this season was quality.

Carroll was scoring goals for fun and some real quality ones at that before we bought him at an over inflated price.


Both were seen as the English IT player at the time and we wasted £50m+ on them.

Neither are what we need now.

What we need is now is quality players who are also experienced in Europe.

Daemonic wrote: »

Sturridge will come back, light the place up with goals, no one will arrive in January and at 12.01am on Feb 1st Sturridge will get up to get a drink, fall down the stairs and be out for the rest of the season

Why the hell is he drinking upstairs??? :mad::mad:

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Carroll was scoring goals for fun and some real quality ones at that before we bought him at an over inflated price.


Both were seen as the English IT player at the time and we wasted £50m+ on them.

Neither are what we need now.

What we need is now is quality players who are also experienced in Europe.

I didn't want Carroll and fwiw I absolutely didn't buy into the hype Sky surrounded him in. Was he playing well - absolutely, is he a talented footballer - yes, was he what we needed/wanted - no. Like I said - I normally don't buy into the hype but this guy seems to have the potential to go up another level.

Perhaps it's just me but I like strikers who make defenders guess, play off the shoulder and will cause a bit of chaos - I think Berahino is one of those types of players and if he isn't already then I certainly think he has the tools to become that player.

I absolutely agree on the quality side of things and needing experienced players. You look at City, Chelsea etc - they have quality a cut above what we have - which is mainly potential. So to that end - I wouldn't mind not getting in Berahino IF we purchase somebody who already has the tools/experience required.

Mr Alan wrote: »

This is the crux of it. Could cope with league position if there was a sign that the quality of last season was still there.

But it's not, and the players & manager look clueless on how to get it back.

To compound matters, the narrative being trotted out by the manager is constantly changing and seems more interested in diverting any/all blame away from him which is not a good trait.

Pretty sure Rodgers has used the phrase "we need to do better". That includes him. I'm sure he knows that he's to blame for some of the issues but do you think him coming out and taking full credit for our poor form is going to help?!? The players need to respect the manager and I think they do. It's not often you'll hear Jose take the fall for a poor effort. Rodgers is from his school of media sound bites. It just sounds better in a Portuguese accent.

Pyjamarama wrote: »

Marco Reus is one of the best players in Europe. I don't see why he's come here... Even if we offered him €250k a week bayern could offer more. I hope I'm wrong as he's superb but I reckon anyone pinning their hopes on him will be disappointed.

That's why I said if we loss out to one of the big 6/7 teams so be it.

He is the player we should be trying for not the next hopefully big thing ( that has hit a rich vain of form) and wasting millions on hope.

Pyjamarama wrote: »

Berahino looks a really clever player. I'd be thrilled with him tbh. Instinctive and makes superb runs. Great pace too.

You really would be happy to pay £20m + on Berahino? but not at least try for Reus?

Pilsbury Doughboy wrote: »

Has there actually been talk of us going after Berahino? I'd be fairly cautious over going for him, you see too many flavour of the month players quickly disappear to mediocrity

Usually just after they sign for us!!

I seem to remember a guy called Harry Kewell :pac:

Might have already been mentioned but theres a good interview with Comolli on second captains football from yesterday. Had great things to say about Kenny. In fairness he did help bring some modern ideas into the game..

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/second-captains

Agent Coulson wrote: »

90% of our squad is potential it's time to stop buying potential now and buy experienced.

No need to get Berahino as we have Origi. Doumbia,Jackson Martinez or Lacazette could be strikers we could sign.

Just on the Berahino thing - one thing working in our favour is Andre Wisdom playing well for them this year - he was impressive against United and a player who has potential to grow into a solid CB - he might get the oppertunities at Liverpool, though I do see Ilori as being ahead of him, so using him as a makeweight in a deal for Berahino might help us