Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

if the rumoured team is correct, that means that Rodgers has dropped Lovren, Gerrard, Sterling and Balotelli for the game.

tell me what the mindset is for the game, eh?

yeah, yeah...Chelsea at the weekend, blah blah. couldn't give a shíte. a good performance would give the legs all the energy they need for the weekend.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

In Rafa's last season we were minutes in extra time from a European final.

Minutes doesn't cut it! Grand at the time but a Europa Cup Semi Final (which we got to because we failed poorly in the CL) is hardly worth crowing about 5 years later. Same if we nearly get to a League Cup final this year, we'll hardly fondly remember it in 2020.

With regards to the last bit, everything that was so good about us last season has been absent thus far this season. It's like the first half of 2012 / 13 all over again. Wouldn't you agree? It's concerning, it needs to change.

Well that's where everybody is agreed, you seem to have no faith in Rodgers whatsoever.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

That's basically what I'm saying.

You'd swear we were a midtable club who had won the FA Cup to get in or something the way some people are going on. We shipped the first three goal defeat in Europe since the Evans era in our last game!! And that's okay? Baffling.

People call Gerrard the weak link all this season, first time he gets dropped.................

Lambert is a bit of a joke tbh, I suspect Rodgers wants somebody who'll compete and get some success at holding the ball up. I'd have went Borini myself.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The concern is that Real play a reserve knockabout side against Ludogorets on the final night, luckily the game is in the Berniebow so the home crowd will demand a good show.

Yeah we need Madrid to whitewash the group for it to happen.

There was also the footballing lesson Liverpool where handed by Valencia that same season the lost to Celtic at home.

Also the shambles V Fiorentina in 2009.

They may not have been 3 goals but they were worse the being beating by the current European champions who are on a stunning run of form in Europe

The Wall didn't Jump. Are you kidding me?

According to Balague the team will be

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Mignolet

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Manquillo---Skrtel--Toure--Moreno

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Lucas

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Allen

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Can

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Markovic----Borini

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Lallana

http://as.com/diarioas/2014/11/04/english/1415113971_953576.html

Real are lethal on the break. If Liverpool try to attack too much it'll be like rope a dope tonight.

They've got to set up as solid as possible. Try to keep possession in a controlled patient way. Full backs can't push on too much tonight and if they do they'll need mid players to cover them. Nil nil would be an excellent result as it would show the team can be disciplined in defence and they'll probably need to play a similar way against Chelsea too.

Borini makes far more sense.

putting Lambert up there on his own is just putting a slower, less technical version of Balotelli up there, and we'll have the same problems as we have had.

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

super_furry wrote: »

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

Sub, emergency backup, the cups?

super_furry wrote: »

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

an alternative way of playing should we need a target man.

the problem is Balotelli is a better version of Lambert, and for some reason, Mario was the best deal we could do in the transfer window.

this means Lambert's opportunities have decreased significantly.

i don't think Rodgers ever thought we'd have to play the way we are at the moment - essentially starting every game with a target man. that was going to be a secondary option.

super_furry wrote: »

Why the **** was Lambert signed in the first place?

I think if he'd been given the amount of game time Balotelli has gotten he'd have scored a few by now, most of his sub appearances are when we're stuggling to make anything happen and he's the last ditch option....hardly going to inspire his confidence

K-9 wrote: »

Minutes doesn't cut it! Grand at the time but a Europa Cup Semi Final (which we got to because we failed poorly in the CL) is hardly worth crowing about 5 years later. Same if we nearly get to a League Cup final this year, we'll hardly fondly remember it in 2020.

'Crowing about'? No. But an indication that we remained solid in European Competition. Babel got us the goal in Lyon that would have been good enough to see us through and we conceded two minutes later - just didn't hang on. It was the nature of the year that was in it. But when we did parachute into the Europa League we set about winning it, as per the expectations of the club in European competition.

Well that's where everybody is agreed, you seem to have no faith in Rodgers whatsoever.

Perform, win games. I am concerned at what is happening sans Suarez.

People call Gerrard the weak link all this season, first time he gets dropped.................

Lambert is a bit of a joke tbh, I suspect Rodgers wants somebody who'll compete and get some success at holding the ball up. I'd have went Borini myself.

I haven't been calling Gerrard the weak link.

We should be putting our best foot forward tonight. If the manager needs to drop Gerrard because he thinks our tactical best foot forward doesn't involve him so be it. But ringing in the changes generally smacks of not giving it our all...

Brannigan.

If that ballague team is correct, im fine with that tbh. The only player id have doubts about is markovic, his confidence is low, playing him in a defensive side at the bernabeu probably isnt gonna help. Though I guess he does seem fairly disciplined on the defensive side of things and has pace which could be useful if we ever get the ball in their half. Borini and lallana makes perfect sense, as does the midfield three imo. More disciplined than gerrard and henderson who could both do with a rest anyway, they havent been playing very well lately