Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

Mr Alan · 01-11-2014 04:43PM

Fromvert wrote: »

Has anyone said Rodgers should be sacked?

People have said he will be sacked of our fortunes don't improve. But I don't think there any argument against that.

Fromvert · 01-11-2014 04:46PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

People have said he will be sacked of our fortunes don't improve. But I don't think there any argument against that.

If he misses out on top 4 I think he will be sacked. Whether I think he should if that happens depends on how the rest of the season goes.

Nerdlingr · 01-11-2014 04:46PM

Coutinho has once again shown he can't be trusted with a starting spot. I said it last year but he blows hot and cold every week. At this stage of his career it looks like we'll only get the best out of him coming on as a super sub. Very very poor from us today. No desire whatsoever. 15mins against Madrid and a good result against spurs is about as good as it's got all season. Manager needs to step up and put it right. His first proper test as Liverpool manager and he ain't doing too well at the moment. Madrid and Chelsea to come as well. Jaysus.

Demosthenese · 01-11-2014 04:46PM

Gbear wrote: »

I think that was a symptom of how bad our midfield was.

There was very little going on in midfield and too often nobody was dropping deep to collect the ball off Lovren.

They were mostly standing around twiddling their thumbs while a CB is left with the job of starting our attack.

Utterly ludicrous.

True ... team have sussed us out since Villa showed them how to do it time and time again. Block the midfield. Stop Gerard on the ball and leave Skrtel and Lovren on the ball as much as they like.

... so simple but effective. We are not the first team to have this done to us so need to counteract it. Doesn't matter though about 3-5-2 4-1-2-1 etc though if we cant earn our right in the game. No aggression no tempo is unacceptable at this level. The absolute minimum we should expect from a game like this is 100% effort. Can any player say they gave that today!

Soft Falling Rain · 01-11-2014 04:48PM

He's not getting sacked before the end of the season. Not that that should even be a debate at this stage.

Demosthenese · 01-11-2014 04:49PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Coutinho has once again shown he can't be trusted with a starting spot. I said it last year but he blows hot and cold every week. At this stage of his career it looks like we'll only get the best out of him coming on as a super sub. Very very poor from us today. No desire whatsoever. 15mins against Madrid and a good result against spurs is about as good as it's got all season. Manager needs to step up and put it right. His first proper test as Liverpool manager and he ain't doing too well at the moment. Madrid and Chelsea to come as well. Jaysus.

In fairness there's another 9 outfielders with no desire standing around him ... i do think our Vice-Captain out lazied him today though.

LuckyLloyd · 01-11-2014 04:50PM

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

He's not getting sacked before the end of the season. Not that that should even be a debate at this stage.

There are no absolutes. We've been achieving results far better than our performance levels thus far this season. If the latter doesn't improve and the former regresses towards it things could get very grim quicker than you'd imagine.

Demosthenese · 01-11-2014 04:53PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

There are no absolutes. We've been achieving results far better than our performance levels thus far this season. If the latter doesn't improve and the former regresses towards it things could get very grim quicker than you'd imagine.

He'll be ok until he loses IF he loses the dressingroom. How long that is away we will see. 3-4 more depressing performances and results from now who knows. He's earned a little time from last season. But its been a grim campaign so far.

Agent Coulson · 01-11-2014 04:57PM

Rodgers tactics and in game mangement have been bad for a lot of last season as well but that was covered up by goals and exciting play none of which have been present this season.

He needs to take a step back and look at what is happening or it will cost him his job in the long term

Nerdlingr · 01-11-2014 04:58PM

Demosthenese wrote: »

In fairness there's another 9 outfielders with no desire standing around him ... i do think our Vice-Captain out lazied him today though.

How many times have we seen him do well as a sub one week, get a start the next week and then do nothing with the opportunity. Midfield has crap today but countinho's inconsistent performances are nothing new. He was doing the same last year. Not taking this game as a once off but as a general observation on a player with great potential but not enough regular end product.

Soft Falling Rain · 01-11-2014 05:00PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

There are no absolutes. We've been achieving results far better than our performance levels thus far this season. If the latter doesn't improve and the former regresses towards it things could get very grim quicker than you'd imagine.

What's very grim? I'd be happy with still being in with a shout for top 4 come april. That's the minimum.

I personally underestimated Luis 's influence on the team, I thought we'd survive. But it's clear now the team is bereft of not even leadership, but balls. There's no one there now that makes the opposition fear.

I still look back to that interview Balo's agent did when he signed, where he said Balo had to get away from Milan because he couldn't handle the pressure of being expected to be leader. Wtf where we doing replacing Luis with that? And I'm not giving Balo stick there, I'm just asking what was the 'commitee' thinking when they thought he could replace Suarez's general influence over the team!!

01-11-2014 05:04PM

Sacking a manager now would set us back a good few years again. It would be ridiculous.

Fromvert · 01-11-2014 05:04PM

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

I'm just asking what was the 'commitee' thinking when they thought he could replace Suarez's general influence over the team!!

That's the thing from what we've been told, they weren't because they were naive in believing Suarez was 100% staying and had no plan to replace him if/when he left and bought Balotelli because 'he was the best available option'.

That's a shocking way of planning.

careca · 01-11-2014 05:09PM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

This thread is more painful than that match was. Rodgers out?!? Get a ****ing grip lads.

So how much money do you think he should get for the Jan transfer window? 100m, 50m??

Heard ****e again during the week about some sheikh coming in again. If he did would you trust Rodgers with a huge transfer kitty.
Said it before and I continue to say it, jury out on every single one of them and I include Lallana in that.

As for Borini - he bought him and said he would score goals for us - didn't. He tried to sell him twice now - ie doesn't rate him at all - now he is first choice sub when we are needing a goal. 10 yards out can't hit the target :eek:

LuckyLloyd · 01-11-2014 05:10PM

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

What's very grim? I'd be happy with still being in with a shout for top 4 come april. That's the minimum.

I personally underestimated Luis 's influence on the team, I thought we'd survive. But it's clear now the team is bereft of not even leadership, but balls. There's no one there now that makes the opposition fear.

I still look back to that interview Balo's agent did when he signed, where he said Balo had to get away from Milan because he couldn't handle the pressure of being expected to be leader. Wtf where we doing replacing Luis with that? And I'm not giving Balo stick there, I'm just asking what was the 'commitee' thinking when they thought he could replace Suarez's general influence over the team!!

Top 4 could be realistically beyond us on Christmas Day.

rossie1977 · 01-11-2014 05:14PM

when avb was sacked by spurs last year they sat 7th in the table 8 points off the top, 27 points from 16 games.

liverpool currently lie 7th in the table 9 points off the top (likely 12 by this evening), 14 points from 10 games

T-K-O · 01-11-2014 05:17PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

when avb was sacked by spurs last year they sat 7th in the table 8 points off the top, 27 points from 16 games.

liverpool currently lie 7th in the table 9 points off the top (likely 12 by this evening), 14 points from 10 games

Spurs is the marker now, really.

Agent Coulson · 01-11-2014 05:17PM

Brendan Rodgers has spend £212m since he becamce Liverpool manager 28 months ago to say he is working on a limited budget and has to buy moneyball players is a joke.

£202m spent on 20 players (plus another £10m on loan deals.) to go along with crazy excluding players bad tactics etc are reason why I am worried.

I think he is a good man manager for a certain type of player, This being a younger player who needs confidence.

I am not sure he has been great with older experienced pro's.

hefferboi · 01-11-2014 05:20PM

Oh my god....

Stewart downing just got an assist with his right foot!

Turtyturd · 01-11-2014 05:20PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Rodgers tactics and in game mangement have been bad for a lot of last season as well but that was covered up by goals and exciting play none of which have been present this season.

He needs to take a step back and look at what is happening or it will cost him his job in the long term

For all the criticism I have of him this wouldn't be one. Thought he did fairly well at it last season, this season it's gone to sh*t though.

shamrock55 · 01-11-2014 05:21PM

We will all be singing rodgers praises again this time next wk after he has just mastermindedtwo great victories over madrid and chelsea

Lord Trollington · 01-11-2014 05:21PM

Absolute pathetic performance by Liverpool.

Questions has to be asked of BR. Not saying he should be sacked but surely a rational debste can b had about him.

We never once looked like winning that game today.

As it stands Gerrard wouldn be getting a new contract if I were making decisions at LFC.

Lord Trollington · 01-11-2014 05:22PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

We will all be singing rodgers praises again this time next wk after he has just mastermindedtwo great victories over madrid and chelsea

We will be staring at 3 defeats in a row tomorrow week

Soft Falling Rain · 01-11-2014 05:22PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Top 4 could be realistically beyond us on Christmas Day.

Doubtful though you surely agree.

Harry Palmr · 01-11-2014 05:27PM

The only good news is everyone is officially a bit crap right now. The worry is that sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much is now being hung on the shoulders of one player. January is going to need a ready made striker, there is always someone out there (if that wasn't the case Suarez wouldn't have joined nor would Sturridge)

4-2-3-1 DOES NOT WORK 4-3-3 isn't great either.

hefferboi · 01-11-2014 05:31PM

Downing just SCORED with his right foot!!

What a legend.

klose · 01-11-2014 05:33PM

Bournemouth play brighton at 5.15 on sky. Teixiera starts, good opportunity to see our next league cup opponents too.

Utopia Parkway · 01-11-2014 05:34PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

As it stands Gerrard wouldn be getting a new contract if I were making decisions at LFC.

Probably our best player today not that it was saying much.

shamrock55 · 01-11-2014 05:35PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Absolute pathetic performance by Liverpool.

Questions has to be asked of BR. Not saying he should be sacked but surely a rational debste can b had about him.

We never once looked like winning that game today.

As it stands Gerrard wouldn be getting a new contract if I were making decisions at LFC.

If thats the case neither would the rest because he was by far our best player today ffs lets all thank the lord your not makind decisions

Harry Palmr · 01-11-2014 05:35PM

Real Madrid are taking the piss, playing nearly their best 11 against Granada CF, they know they can put out the second string for Liverpool.

Napoli beat Roma 2-0 stand by for the bring back Rafa campaign.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

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