GW8 Captain Poll

JR6 · 16-10-2014 12:05PM

Falcao

Di Maria all the way.

Lemlin · 16-10-2014 02:43PM

Cesc Fabregas

FHFC wrote: »

In the past 3 seasons Aguero has faced Spurs 5 times. In those 5 games City scored 16 goals, Aguero scored 5 or maybe 6 of them (it was monday when i looked this up) including 4 in the last 3.

That's my captain for sure.

I was contemplating Aguero but I'm doing fairly well (61k) and near the top of most of my leagues so I don't think I need to risk it.

Costa plays Palace away and is owned by 67% of managers, most of whom it appears from polls will be captaining him.

Aguero is owned by only 12.8% so just having him if he has a good week should make a difference.

iroced · 16-10-2014 03:13PM

Cesc Fabregas

Costa is the obvious safe a priori choice.

That said I have to admit that FHFC stats re Aguero vs Spurs are tempting and give me the will to "misterprodstonise" it for once

(yeah not that I want to twist the knife but after your last GW gamble/madness/balls of steel decision :pac:, I think by now you do deserve your own verb in the english language

).

I may not be ready for it yet though...

FHFC · 16-10-2014 03:17PM

Danny Welbeck

Lemlin wrote: »

I was contemplating Aguero but I'm doing fairly well (61k) and near the top of most of my leagues so I don't think I need to risk it.

Costa plays Palace away and is owned by 67% of managers, most of whom it appears from polls will be captaining him.

Aguero is owned by only 12.8% so just having him if he has a good week should make a difference.

Sitting at around 400k so it may be worth the risk in my case. The one thing that worries me is that it's the early game.

Lemlin · 16-10-2014 03:30PM

Cesc Fabregas

FHFC wrote: »

Sitting at around 400k so it may be worth the risk in my case. The one thing that worries me is that it's the early game.

Slow and steady my friend. This time last year I was sitting at 600k or something. Now is not the time to panic.

Small gains each week are all you need to make. Then you'll have the odd bumper week where everything goes right that will really pull you up.

FHFC · 16-10-2014 03:42PM

Danny Welbeck

Lemlin wrote: »

I was contemplating Aguero but I'm doing fairly well (61k) and near the top of most of my leagues so I don't think I need to risk it.

Costa plays Palace away and is owned by 67% of managers, most of whom it appears from polls will be captaining him.

Aguero is owned by only 12.8% so just having him if he has a good week should make a difference.

Sitting at around 400k so it may be worth the risk in my case. The one thing that worries me is that it's the early game.

Mr.Prodston · 16-10-2014 03:45PM

Danny Welbeck

I don't see Aguero as a gamble though, perhaps that's fundamentally where I fall down in the game? I usually know that some of the things I've done historically were risky but I just don't see it with Aguero this week.

I'm not saying Costa wouldn't do well but I think Aguero is capable/likely to do just as well with the added potential for outdoing Costa

iroced · 16-10-2014 03:57PM

Cesc Fabregas

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I don't see Aguero as a gamble though, perhaps that's fundamentally where I fall down in the game? I usually know that some of the things I've done historically were risky but I just don't see it with Aguero this week.

I'm not saying Costa wouldn't do well but I think Aguero is capable/likely to do just as well with the added potential for outdoing Costa

The bold part made me :pac:.

No seriously. He's not a gamble. But he's coming back from an Asian Tour (Brazil in Beijing and Kong-Kong) and he plays the early game on Saturday. His ownership is fairly low (~13%).
On the other hand, Costa played twice in Europe relatively close by (Slovakia & Luxembourg), he finally scored for La Roja (which probably was a huge relief for him), and is owned by about 67% of managers.
FF-related captain polls (FFS, fiso forum, here) show a large majority of Costa captainers.

So, all this combined makes Aguero (C) a more riskier decision than Costa (C)

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Mr.Prodston · 16-10-2014 04:03PM

Danny Welbeck

iroced wrote: »

The bold part made me :pac:.

No seriously. He's not a gamble. But he went to play in Brasil and now is travelling back from Hong-Kong and he plays the early game on Saturday. His ownership is fairly low (~13%).
On the other hand, Costa played twice in Europe relatively close by (Slovakia & Luxembourg), he finally scored for La Roja (which probably was a huge relief for him), and is owned by about 67% of managers.
FF-related captain polls (FFS, tfpl, here) show a large majority of Costa captainers.

So, all this combined makes Aguero (C) a more riskier decision than Costa (C) .

You could also argue that Costa will now be playing 3 games in a week which is meant to be a sign of the Apocalypse :pac: While Aguero plays against Spurs at home in a relatively big game but has previous good memories/form of/in the fixture. He's a professional who is used to travelling and didn't even play in Hong Kong so effectively went on a little holiday

You make good points though to be fair

iroced · 16-10-2014 04:14PM

Cesc Fabregas

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

You could also argue that Costa will now be playing 3 games in a week which is meant to be a sign of the Apocalypse :pac: While Aguero plays against Spurs at home in a relatively big game but has previous good memories/form of/in the fixture. He's a professional who is used to travelling and didn't even play in Hong Kong so effectively went on a little holiday

Aaaah will you stop ?! :pac:. I'm being misterprodstonised by the misterprodstoniser-in-chief

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To be honest the main thing that's putting me off the Argentine is the huuuuuuge ownership of Costa. For the 4 years I'm playing the game I don't think there was ever such a high ownership.

LostArt · 16-10-2014 04:21PM

Danny Welbeck

Going with Costa. Don't have the balls for Aguero or Wellbeck

Mr.Prodston · 16-10-2014 04:32PM

Danny Welbeck

iroced wrote: »

Aaaah will you stop ?! :pac:. I'm being misterprodstonised by the misterprodstoniser-in-chief .

To be honest the main thing that's putting me off the Argentine is the huuuuuuge ownership of Costa. For the 4 years I'm playing the game I don't think there was ever such a high ownership.

The ownership is the elephant in the room alright but that works both ways

Iused2likebusts · 16-10-2014 04:39PM

Danny Welbeck

I'm happy to pick who I feel is my best option this week and for me it's Aguero. I wouldn't pay too much heed to ownership.

SlickRic · 16-10-2014 04:44PM

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

You could also argue that Costa will now be playing 3 games in a week which is meant to be a sign of the Apocalypse :pac: While Aguero plays against Spurs at home in a relatively big game but has previous good memories/form of/in the fixture. He's a professional who is used to travelling and didn't even play in Hong Kong so effectively went on a little holiday

You make good points though to be fair

the bold part is very important. any doubts anyone has as to whether Aguero will play at the weekend after the international break are now pretty much gone.

it's very much 50/50 for me as to whether I go Costa or Aguero.

Wombatman · 16-10-2014 05:05PM

Poll needs more Tadic

The Wild Bunch · 16-10-2014 05:08PM

Alexis Sanchez

Golden Rule is never choose an Away captain

CSF · 16-10-2014 05:13PM

Alexis Sanchez

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Golden Rule is never choose an Away captain

Suarez last season says different. Granted Costa is not Suarez.

hurlingman97 · 16-10-2014 05:14PM

Cesc Fabregas

Always captain Suarez Costa;)

Damnit CSF you bet me to it

FutureGuy · 16-10-2014 05:14PM

Cesc Fabregas

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Golden Rule is never choose an Away captain

Hmmmmmm I would argue that point had I time today.

FHFC · 16-10-2014 05:24PM

Danny Welbeck

iroced wrote: »

The bold part made me :pac:.

No seriously. He's not a gamble. But he went to play in Brasil and now is travelling back from Hong-Kong

He didn't go to Brazil. That match was in Beijing.

He sat on the bench lunchtime Tuesday gmt, I'd guess he'd have been home Wed night at the latest.

Think the travel thing is being overplayed a bit, but Pellegrinis comments tomorrow will be worth watching. Thankfully he's usually fairly forthcoming and if jet lag is an issue he'll probably refer to it.

As I said I'd be more worried about the early kick off curse than the travelling.

Lemlin · 16-10-2014 07:32PM

Cesc Fabregas

The Wild Bunch wrote: »

Golden Rule is never choose an Away captain

Costa scored two away against Everton and took three bonus in that game. 12 points.

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I'm happy to pick who I feel is my best option this week and for me it's Aguero. I wouldn't pay too much heed to ownership.

I disagree. As I said above, Aguero is only owned by 12% so just having him is a decent differential.

Costa has 65% ownership and the majority are captaining him. If he has a better week than Aguero, you are going to lose alot of ground.

Iused2likebusts · 16-10-2014 08:26PM

Danny Welbeck

Lemlin wrote: »

Costa scored two away against Everton and took three bonus in that game. 12 points.

I disagree. As I said above, Aguero is only owned by 12% so just having him is a decent differential.

Costa has 65% ownership and the majority are captaining him. If he has a better week than Aguero, you are going to lose alot of ground.

I get the logic but I still feel you have to go with who you think is the best option sure didn't you go with Aguero yourself last gameweek when he had an even smaller ownership granted the poll on here for captaincy was a lot closer than it is this week.

Lemlin · 16-10-2014 08:53PM

Cesc Fabregas

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I get the logic but I still feel you have to go with who you think is the best option sure didn't you go with Aguero yourself last gameweek when he had an even smaller ownership granted the poll on here for captaincy was a lot closer than it is this week.

Yep, and I spent the entire weekend biting my nails because I did! I now see that as an unnecessary risk that I shouldn't have taken.

I'd also point out that last GW I felt Aguero had a noticeably easier fixture. This GW I see very little between Palace away and Spurs home. Therefore letting the ownership percentages make the decision for me is the best way to go.

Costa's ownership is too high to risk not captaining him considering the start I've had. I'm performing fine so far this season. Slow and steady wins the race.

FHFC · 16-10-2014 08:57PM

Danny Welbeck

Lemlin wrote: »

Costa has 65% ownership and the majority are captaining him. If he has a better week than Aguero, you are going to lose alot of ground.

I totally get this logic too, and if I was sitting pretty in even the top 100k I'd probably play it safe for those reasons. But I also agree with Busts that sometimes you have to go with your gut. I think palace away will a low scoring game, while City Spurs is for years now a high scoring fixture, Aguero has been looking sharper and sharper and is due to score big some of these weeks.

Also looking at Poccetino's record against City last year MC put 4 past Southampton at the Ethiad, although only drew 1-1 away.

Costa is safer, Aguero potentially epic though. Risk and reward baby.

FHFC · 16-10-2014 09:00PM

Danny Welbeck

Aaaagghhh, just realised I swore to never pick same captain as Busts though after a few shared disasters so far.....dammit!

Lemlin · 16-10-2014 09:04PM

Cesc Fabregas

FHFC wrote: »

I think palace away will a low scoring game, while City Spurs is for years now a high scoring fixture,

Warnock has been in charge of Palace for 5 PL games. They have conceded 2 or more goals in 3 of those games.

The other two games were clean sheets against Leicester and Burnley (who never score!!). They were home games though.

Mr.Prodston · 16-10-2014 09:11PM

Danny Welbeck

Lemlin wrote: »

Yep, and I spent the entire weekend biting my nails because I did! I now see that as an unnecessary risk that I shouldn't have taken.

I'd also point out that last GW I felt Aguero had a noticeably easier fixture. This GW I see very little between Palace away and Spurs home. Therefore letting the ownership percentages make the decision for me is the best way to go.

Costa's ownership is too high to risk not captaining him considering the start I've had. I'm performing fine so far this season. Slow and steady wins the race.

Could you not argue that because you've had a good start you're in a better position to kick on? Obviously box smart with little risks unlike what I did last GW but that was nuts and the worst thing I'll do all season. (That's probably the argument to throw back at me though :pac:)

Slow and steady will probably get you into the top 10k with a ceiling of roughly 1k but a few decisions on weeks like this could see you a lot closer to actually winning the race. Or crashing and burning. Or having one of those high-scoring weeks.

I'm not actually arguing against your tactic as it's obviously very successful and makes a hell of a lot of sense. It's just a difference in styles at the end of the day I guess which makes this place so interesting

Iused2likebusts · 16-10-2014 09:45PM

Danny Welbeck

FHFC wrote: »

Aaaagghhh, just realised I swore to never pick same captain as Busts though after a few shared disasters so far.....dammit!

Yes I have had a few nightmare selections alright. I'd still prefer to take my chances and back my instinct I can't go much lower than my current position anyway. I prefer agueros fixture so I have to go with my gut if Costa runs amok so be it. If I change to costa now and Aguero runs amok I'd be devastated.

16-10-2014 09:59PM

Cesc Fabregas

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Slow and steady will probably get you into the top 10k with a ceiling of roughly 1k but a few decisions on weeks like this could see you a lot closer to actually winning the race. Or crashing and burning. Or having one of those high-scoring weeks.

That's my game plan most weeks, Señor P, but I have already stated in this forum that I am in unfamiliar territory with my decent start. I'd like to remain in contention for as long as possible, and the surefire way to not do that is by taking captaincy risks.

Actually, I just had a look at my team, and if i had captained Costa in every game so far I would be 28 pts better off. That would move me from 2.5k to 41st place overall!

The way I look at it, I took risks by putting the armband on ulloa and jelavic in the past few gws and got away with it. Safe and sound from now until Christmas, sounds like a plan.

Dr. Bre · 16-10-2014 10:07PM

Di Maria for me. sterling's too tired, Costa may finally come of the bench

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