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Brown Bomber · 08-09-2014 10:37PM #1

2 Muslim extremists beheads someone in Woolwich. The world stands still. The media is swamped with wall-to-wall coverage of the brutal attack.

Yesterday a Zionist Jew beheads a woman in Rome. As far as I can tell there is not a single mainstream report in English. What is going on?

http://www.thelocal.it/20140826/man-who-beheaded-maid-wanted-to-fight-hamas

Federico Leonelli, 35, was shot outside a gated house in Rome on Sunday morning, after allegedly beheading 38-year-old Oksana Martseniuk.
Homeowner Giovanni Ciallella has now said that his guest Leonelli was obsessed with “the military world” and wanted to fight in Gaza alongside the Israeli army.

“He told me that he had met a rabbi in Rome and was ready to join the Israeli army against Hamas and terrorists armed with missiles,” Ciallella told La Repubblica.

Leonelli had been an atheist when the pair worked together in the IT sector a decade ago, although had recently discovered his Jewish heritage and immersed himself in religious texts.

“He started to study the Torah, the Talmud and once he stopped to speak about the Old Testament with me.

“Then he searched on the internet and saw dozens and dozens of videos. At night he watched films by rabbis at full volume which informed him of what was happening in the Gaza strip,” Ciallella said.

Leonelli had twice been denied a visa to travel to Israel and wanted to take the issue up with the consulate in Rome, to “sign up at any cost”, his host added.

Nodin · 08-09-2014 10:39PM

Jew Bashing time, is it?

My name is URL · 08-09-2014 10:40PM

Lunatics gonna loon

I agree that too much emphasis on religion was put on the guys that killed the man in London, though

KeithM89 · 08-09-2014 10:40PM

Apparently yesterday was August 26th.

The Purveyor of Truth · 08-09-2014 10:41PM

Trick question. You don't bury survivors.

eviltwin · 08-09-2014 10:41PM

Are we supposed to report on every murder in every city now?

Nodin · 08-09-2014 10:41PM

KeithM89 wrote: »

Apparently yesterday was August 26th.

Italy are behind us, time wise.

kneemos · 08-09-2014 10:43PM

Sounds like a run of the mill headbanger.Where as the Woolwich murders were political,plus they had pictures.

The Backwards Man · 08-09-2014 10:43PM

I know I'm not the smartest biscuit in the tin but isn't that article in English?

Awkward Badger · 08-09-2014 10:44PM

Zionist Jews don't usually behead people generally speaking. They tend to just slaughter Palestinians with American weaponry. Muslim extremists though like to chop off the heads of Westerners to get attention from Western Media.

There is no real mystery.

Brown Bomber · 08-09-2014 10:44PM

Nodin wrote: »

Jew Bashing time, is it?

Eh??? No. Can you point to any "Jew Bashing"? Better yet can you actually respond to the OP?

endacl · 08-09-2014 10:46PM

^^

Could not have out it better. A Zionist Jew doing it is like a Mormon doing it. Most likely a once of, as opposed to a fetish supported by a medieval text.

eviltwin · 08-09-2014 10:46PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Eh??? No. Can you point to any "Jew Bashing"? Better yet can you actually respond to the OP?

why is the fact he's jewish even relevant then?

Brown Bomber · 08-09-2014 10:46PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Lunatics gonna loon

I agree, though I don't recall this argument being put forward with any frequency or conviction with Woolwich. I am trying to establish what the difference is, and if there is none, or it is minimal why it treated differently.

Brown Bomber · 08-09-2014 10:47PM

eviltwin wrote: »

why is the fact he's jewish even relevant then?

It's as relevant as the Woolwich attackers being Muslim. Or do disagree?

Nodin · 08-09-2014 10:48PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Eh??? No. Can you point to any "Jew Bashing"? Better yet can you actually respond to the OP?

"Zionist jew"? You couldn't be more obvious about your agenda if you tried. And there's your previous comments on Jews over the years to provide context, if that wasn't enough.

He's a nut. He beheaded somebody because he's a nut. That's the crude short version of it, no mystery at all.

Billy86 · 08-09-2014 10:50PM

endacl wrote: »

^^

Could not have out it better. A Zionist Jew doing it is like a Mormon doing it. Most likely a once of, as opposed to a fetish supported by a medieval text.

Exactly. As someone said earlier, their extremely at elements are more fond of bombings and attempts at genocide.

All religions have dangerous nutmegs obviously, doesn't make any of the others any more justified or any less dangerous.

Brown Bomber · 08-09-2014 10:51PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I know I'm not the smartest biscuit in the tin but isn't that article in English?

Yes, but it is a web only site for ex pats in Italy.

dxhound2005 · 08-09-2014 10:51PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I agree, though I don't recall this argument being put forward with any frequency or conviction with Woolwich. I am trying to establish what the difference is, and if there is none, or it is minimal why it treated differently.

Tell me how much coverage the Italian media gave to the London murders.

Hotfail.com · 08-09-2014 10:52PM

Apt username, OP.

pablomakaveli · 08-09-2014 10:54PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I agree, though I don't recall this argument being put forward with any frequency or conviction with Woolwich. I am trying to establish what the difference is, and if there is none, or it is minimal why it treated differently.

This doesn't seem to be a politically motivated crime. Woolwich saw a soldier beheaded by Islamic extremists in full view of the public and was politically motivated.

This appears to be a gruesome murder with no apparent political motivation. Unfortunately horrible murders like this happen frequently enough, politically motivated murders less so.

It's not hard to see why Woolwich would have received more attention.

AnonoBoy · 08-09-2014 10:56PM

Crimes in England get more coverage in Ireland than crimes in Italy do generally.

Brown Bomber · 08-09-2014 10:57PM

endacl wrote: »

^^

Could not have out it better. A Zionist Jew doing it is like a Mormon doing it. Most likely a once of, as opposed to a fetish supported by a medieval text.

Is the Jewish Talmud medieval enough for you?

When the Mishnah on today's daf (=page) discusses how hereg - death by sword - is carried out, two opinions are offered. The Tanna Kamma (=first) suggests that the Jewish court would sever the head of the condemned man just as is done by the non-Jewish authorities. Rabbi Yehudah argued that the proper way to carry out this death penalty was by having the condemned man place his head on a table, where his head would be chopped off with a kufitz - a large knife. According to the Mishnah, Rabbi Yehudah was told that this could not be the method used, since this is the most revolting of any possible means of death.
http://www.steinsaltz.org/learning.php?pg=Daf_Yomi&articleId=1911

My name is URL · 08-09-2014 10:59PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I agree, though I don't recall this argument being put forward with any frequency or conviction with Woolwich. I am trying to establish what the difference is, and if there is none, or it is minimal why it treated differently.

It's treated differently because there's enough people that buy into the whole anti-Islam, 'all muslims are evil' thing, and a media that's more than willing to package stories in a way that supports their prejudices.

It doesn't follow that the media should cater for everyone's prejudices to keep things fair or balanced.. they shouldn't be catering to anyone's in the first place.

Nodin · 08-09-2014 11:00PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Is the Jewish Talmud medieval enough for you?

Can I point to any "Jew Bashing" asks he. Hilarious.

Hootanany · 08-09-2014 11:03PM

Nodin wrote: »

"Zionist jew"? You couldn't be more obvious about your agenda if you tried. And there's your previous comments on Jews over the years to provide context, if that wasn't enough.

He's a nut. He beheaded somebody because he's a nut. That's the crude short version of it, no mystery at all.

But what if he was Muslim what would your view be then?

Brown Bomber · 08-09-2014 11:04PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Tell me how much coverage the Italian media gave to the London murders.

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Nodin · 08-09-2014 11:05PM

Hootanany wrote: »

But what if he was Muslim what would your view be then?

In the exact same context? He'd be a nut.

Nodin · 08-09-2014 11:06PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

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Why do you think that is?

Brown Bomber · 08-09-2014 11:08PM

Nodin wrote: »

Can I point to any "Jew Bashing" asks he. Hilarious.

Do you find the word "Jewish" offensive? Is that the source of your confusion???

Nodin · 08-09-2014 11:09PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Do you find the word "Jewish" offensive? Is that the source of your confusion???

O I'm not confused at all, nor is anyone else at this stage.

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Why do you think that is?

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