Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

Andersonisgod · 02-09-2014 10:19AM

CSF wrote: »

Thought Costa was fairly poor until Falcao left myself.

What? His role was to give Falcao freedom, to take all the attention away from Falcao to allow him to thrive, to occupy defenders. I suspect Falcao would be the first to tell you how good Costa was in that role. Of course Falcao moved on, Costa became the main man, the rest is history.

K-9 · 02-09-2014 10:20AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Falcao could be third choice at United for all we know and he only cost £6m if Lambert cost £4m.

But RVP is out so that's part of the reasoning of buying him. And those prices obviously aren't in anyway comparable!

greendom · 02-09-2014 10:20AM

Andersonisgod wrote: »

What? His role was to give Falcao freedom, to take all the attention away from Falcao to allow him to thrive, to occupy defenders. I suspect Falcao would be the first to tell you how good Costa was in that role. Of course Falcao moved on, Costa became the main man, the rest is history.

The rest is history ? Slightly hyperbolic don't you think

Will I Amnt · 02-09-2014 10:21AM

K-9 wrote: »

But RVP is out so that's part of the reasoning of buying him. And those prices obviously aren't in anyway comparable!

Is RvP out? You know more than me so...

x43r0 · 02-09-2014 10:22AM

Gavlor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jav_moreno_/status/506706464220909568

Andersonisgod · 02-09-2014 10:22AM

greendom wrote: »

The rest is history ? Slightly hyperbolic don't you think

Not really. He powered Atletico to a La Liga title, breaking the Barcelona/Real Madrid duopoly in dramatic fashion and he was the main man in Atletico's run to the Champions League final. A season that will go down in history among the best Atletico have had.

SherlockWatson · 02-09-2014 10:23AM

K-9 wrote: »

But RVP is out so that's part of the reasoning of buying him. And those prices obviously aren't in anyway comparable!

Of course the prices are comparable.

gandalf · 02-09-2014 10:24AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Is RvP out? You know more than me so...

He allegedly needs knee surgery.

http://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2014/9/1/6092501/robin-van-persie-to-undergo-knee-surgery-reports

K-9 · 02-09-2014 10:24AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Is RvP out? You know more than me so...

According to a poster on here he was!

K-9 · 02-09-2014 10:25AM

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Of course the prices are comparable.

Okay, go on, £6 Million for Falcao to £4 Million for Lambert, compare them.

Harry Palmr · 02-09-2014 10:25AM

SherlockWatson wrote: »

You're dodging the question, would you have taken Falcao instead of balotelli AND(I'll make it bigger for you K-9) Lambert?

Shur Balotelli is on 200K a week.(If were just making up wage figures like you are for Falcao)

No I wouldn't. And I'm not making up wages. Falcao is being paid 346k a week and that's from the pro-Utd hack Mark Ogden so I trust him! Balo took a wage cut to join Liverpool.

SherlockWatson · 02-09-2014 10:25AM

K-9 wrote: »

According to a poster on here he was!

It seems obvious you have reading and comprehension problems so don't worry, it's not your fault

Will I Amnt · 02-09-2014 10:26AM

K-9 wrote: »

According to a poster on here he was!

And you use posters on here to back up your points?

Darkglasses · 02-09-2014 10:27AM

klose wrote: »

Surprised city let negredo go, ageuro and jovetic are fond of the treatment table leaving only dzecko as their only striker who you would rely on being fit for the rest of the season

Not as surprised as me! Puts a bit of a sour note on our transfer window for me. It's almost certain that one of Aguero or Jovetic will be out for a month if they have to play every week til January. In that case we'll start having some academy players on the bench like Iheanacho or Pozo. Not entirely a bad thing but I really think you need 4 strikers if you're competing in all 4 competitions.

SherlockWatson · 02-09-2014 10:29AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

No I wouldn't. And I'm not making up wages. Falcao is being paid 346k a week and that's from the pro-Utd hack Mark Ogden so I trust him! Balo took a wage cut to join Liverpool.

You wouldn't take Falcao over Balotelli and Lambert?

Ok so, I'm done here, I'll leave ye pool fans obsessing as usual, enjoy

RayCun · 02-09-2014 10:29AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

No I wouldn't. And I'm not making up wages. Falcao is being paid 346k a week and that's from the pro-Utd hack Mark Ogden so I trust him! Balo took a wage cut to join Liverpool.

With the striker’s salary of £190,000 a week being paid by United the agreement was set to cost the club at least £16m...As Falcao’s salary is tax-free at Monaco and United denied they were matching his net take-home of £10m a year,

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/02/radamel-falcao-joins-manchester-united-loan

and Ogden has changed his tune from last night
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11069084/Radamel-Falcao-completes-loan-move-to-Manchester-United-in-transfer-worth-up-to-20-million-for-one-season.html

it is understood that he will exceed club captain Wayne Rooney as Old Trafford’s top earner with a wage in the region of £265,000-a-week.

so about 13m - if United pay his salary for all 12 months

PhlegmyMoses · 02-09-2014 10:29AM

gandalf wrote: »

The big question is, what happens if Falcao gets a knock on that knee?

Jesus ****ing Christ.

And we could all die today and all. Some miserable sods in here today.

TheCitizen · 02-09-2014 10:29AM

What's the story with all the loan deals, some of them involving big clubs, rivals in the same competitions, loaning to each other?

Ed Winchester · 02-09-2014 10:31AM

TheCitizen wrote: »

What's the story with all the loan deals, some of them involving big clubs, rivals in the same competitions, loaning to each other?

Loophole in FFP

K-9 · 02-09-2014 10:31AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

And you use posters on here to back up your points?

Hmmmmm, not really. If he's not injured, grand, no big deal!

Harry Palmr · 02-09-2014 10:32AM

RayCun wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/02/radamel-falcao-joins-manchester-united-loan

Well someone is right and someone is wrong, or maybe both are wrong

It usually takes until the next set of financials is published to see what players really cost.

edit just seen your update.

02-09-2014 10:32AM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

No, Woodward has done an incredible job to minimise financial impact. Posted this elsewhere, feel free to source your own wage numbers if you think you can get more accurate versions. Transfer fees were around 160m less whatever was sold, which wasn't much, maybe 30m.

Vidic, Evra, Rio ~ 350k.
Kagawa ~ 80k
Welbeck ~ 80k
Hernandez ~ 90k
Giggs ~ 70K
Zaha ~ 50k
Bebe ~ 30k
Buttner ~ 30k
Macheda ~ 20k

So around 700-800k (those figures are taken from the best sources I could find so it's why I'm giving 100k differential) wiped off the weekly wage bill. I think Woodward and co have done a good job here to offset the incoming transfers. If Falcao is on 350k, Di Maria 250k, and Shaw 120k, that still means United's wage bill hasn't really grown much. Maybe by 150k-200k p/w or so, which isn't awful.

If Utd get top 4 this season it shouldn't be a problem. However failure to do so and the sponsorship cash will fall I'd imagine?

K-9 · 02-09-2014 10:33AM

K-9 wrote: »

Okay, go on, £6 Million for Falcao to £4 Million for Lambert, compare them.

SherlockWatson wrote: »

It seems obvious you have reading and comprehension problems so don't worry, it's not your fault

SherlockWatson wrote: »

You wouldn't take Falcao over Balotelli and Lambert?

Ok so, I'm done here, I'll leave ye pool fans obsessing as usual, enjoy

Ah darn, I was waiting for the comparison from the mighty one.

02-09-2014 10:35AM

Knock knock

02-09-2014 10:37AM

Pretty funny comparing Lambert to Falcao alright!

3rd choice player v one of the best strikers in the world.

The logic of Facebookers eh

Harry Palmr · 02-09-2014 10:37AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Knock knock

(I'll bite)

Whos' there?

02-09-2014 10:37AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

(I'll bite)

Whos' there?

Falcao's knees.

/coat

Agent Coulson · 02-09-2014 10:41AM

Nike this season and Adidas from next will love the new Galactico United with these transfers.

PhlegmyMoses · 02-09-2014 10:42AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

If Utd get top 4 this season it shouldn't be a problem. However failure to do so and the sponsorship cash will fall I'd imagine?

That's not the point you made. The inference was that this spending coupled with not getting Top 4 would be a disaster. I don't think the spend from a wage perspective is obscene, given what they have wiped off it.

The Adidas deal, if the media is to believed, has some penalties for not getting into the CL, but it would still be the biggest deal in football if they are invoked.

I don't think we'll get Top 4 this year, but it won't be a disaster financially. If we don't get it we probably won't see another summer like this next year, though.

SherlockWatson · 02-09-2014 10:43AM

K-9 wrote: »

Ah darn, I was waiting for the comparison from the mighty one.

I decided I couldn't be arsed dealing with you, as your intentions were clear when you came in spouting nonsense and insults, and decided not to respond when pointed out you had assumed incorrectly.

And that other chap thinks Balotelli is a better striker than Falcao apparently so he's not worth my time.

Enjoy the day.

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