Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

CSF · 25-08-2014 02:36PM

Christy Browne wrote: »

Saying almost all is a bit of a stretch, I can think of Lallana and maybe Shaw this summer? The only reason the add-ons are included by jornalists is to make the price seem massive and sell papers, when in reality the fee is actually fairly spot on for one of the best players in Europe last year.

The journalist technique is used for most transfers. I can't have this notion that he was one of the best players in Europe last year (no way was he in the top 10)

Christy Browne · 25-08-2014 02:40PM

CSF wrote: »

The journalist technique is used for most transfers. I can't have this notion that he was one of the best players in Europe last year (no way was he in the top 10)

You're surely joking? Arguably Madrid's second if not third best player last year, was absolutely crucial in them winning the Champions League. He's easily top 10, and I'd be saying the same if he was joining Liverpool or Accrington Stanley. I'd like to see your top 10 so.

Skylinehead · 25-08-2014 02:45PM

Christy Browne wrote: »

You're surely joking? Arguably Madrid's second if not third best player last year, was absolutely crucial in them winning the Champions League. He's easily top 10, and I'd be saying the same if he was joining Liverpool or Accrington Stanley. I'd like to see your top 10 so.

Certainly not second best, that accolade belongs to Luka Modric.

Soups123 · 25-08-2014 02:48PM

Would agree was definately in the top 10 players of last season. Theres no definative list but he is definately top 3 for RM last season

Agent Coulson · 25-08-2014 02:53PM

He was one of the top ten players in Europe last season but I would put him in the 5-10 area.

Still not worth that price but football has gone crazy that way.

Blatter · 25-08-2014 03:04PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

Certainly not second best, that accolade belongs to Luka Modric.

It was a close run thing between him and Di Maria imo. A lot of Madrid fans will tell you Di Maria was their most important player behind Ronaldo in the last few months of the season.

CSF · 25-08-2014 03:17PM

With the amount of quality Atleti/Bayern players last season I don't see how people are reaching that conclusion

Soups123 · 25-08-2014 03:36PM

Question, for English teams is Friday or Sunday D day?

With FA offices closed on the weekend I assume all transfers have to be in by 12am FRiday??

CSF · 25-08-2014 03:36PM

Soups123 wrote: »

Question, for English teams is Friday or Sunday D day?

With FA offices closed on the weekend I assume all transfers have to be in by 12am FRiday??

Monday.

Soups123 · 25-08-2014 03:37PM

CSF wrote: »

Monday.

So Monday 12am will be cut off?

CSF · 25-08-2014 03:39PM

Soups123 wrote: »

So Monday 12am will be cut off?

Well the minute that Monday becomes Tuesday. I've never fully understood whether that's Monday or Tuesday 12 am

Christy Browne · 25-08-2014 03:42PM

CSF wrote: »

With the amount of quality Atleti/Bayern players last season I don't see how people are reaching that conclusion

He was one of the stars of the team that destroyed Bayern in the semi final and won the Champions League, that's how

Crash Bang Wall · 25-08-2014 03:42PM

I think its 11pm Mon night

KERSPLAT! · 25-08-2014 03:44PM

Isn't it 11pm on Monday?

edit, missed the above post

CSF · 25-08-2014 03:45PM

Christy Browne wrote: »

He was one of the stars of the team that destroyed Bayern in the semi final and won the Champions League, that's how

Better throw Ramos in there too then, on that ridiculous logic.

Christy Browne · 25-08-2014 03:47PM

CSF wrote: »

Better throw Ramos in there too then, on that ridiculous logic.

Don't get me wrong I'm not basing it on one match, just if you can't see how people think one of the best players in the best team is one of the best players in the world then you're the one with ridiculous logic

kevinroche3333 · 25-08-2014 03:48PM

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9439415/transfer-news-real-madrid-winger-angel-di-maria-set-for-manchester-united-medical

Is it me or is 80million euro outrageous money?!?!?! I dont doubt the quality of Di Maria for a moment, but really? 80million euro?!?!

Soups123 · 25-08-2014 03:49PM

kevinroche3333 wrote: »

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9439415/transfer-news-real-madrid-winger-angel-di-maria-set-for-manchester-united-medical

Is it me or is 80million euro outrageous money?!?!?! I dont doubt the quality of Di Maria for a moment, but really? 80million euro?!?!

Have you read the last 20 pages?

CSF · 25-08-2014 03:51PM

Christy Browne wrote: »

Don't get me wrong I'm not basing it on one match, just if you can't see how people think one of the best players in the best team is one of the best players in the world then you're the one with ridiculous logic

But he isn't one of the best players at Real, that's why he is surplus to requirements. He had a very very good spell last season. I don't disagree with that. But not a hope in hell is he in the best 5 Real players. If he was he wouldn't be leaving.

kevinroche3333 · 25-08-2014 03:53PM

Soups123 wrote: »

Have you read the last 20 pages?

I have and still haven't got my head around it!! Maybe being an Arsenal fan and a tight fecker myself explains why i can't believe it!

Christy Browne · 25-08-2014 03:54PM

CSF wrote: »

But he isn't one of the best players at Real, that's why he is surplus to requirements. He had a very very good spell last season. I don't disagree with that. But not a hope in hell is he in the best 5 Real players. If he was he wouldn't be leaving.

You obviously haven't seen the massive outcry from fans about him leaving and reportedly also, players. There is only one man in Madrid who wants Di Maria to leave and that's Florentino Perez, who unfortunately for Madrid calls the shots. He clearly haven't watched much of them if you don't think he was in their top 5 players last year, absolutely ludicrous statement.

zarquon · 25-08-2014 03:55PM

It's excessive but transfers have undergone serious inflation lately and Di Maria was one of the top players in Europe last season. Anyone that followed La Liga or watched the CL would attest to this. Ancelloti didn't want him to go but Perez forced him out for financial reasons.

If Lallana is worth £25m then Di Maria is easily worth 2 x Lallana. He is certainly also worth a stipend on top of the £40m paid for Ozil.

A lot of Di Maria bashing here from people that didn't watch him much last season. If he played, week in week out in the Premier League then people would be drooling over this signing.

This forum is seriously biased though, certain quarters drooling over balotelli and writing off Di Maria :eek:

Christy Browne wrote: »

You obviously haven't seen the massive outcry from fans about him leaving and reportedly also, players. There is only one man in Madrid who wants Di Maria to leave and that's Florentino Perez, who unfortunately for Madrid calls the shots. He clearly haven't watched much of them if you don't think he was in their top 5 players last year, absolutely ludicrous statement.

Agreed, a lot of Real fans are pissed off. Perez wanted Hames as his new galactico and there was no room for both him and Di Maria. I have 2 friends who are Real fans and they are really annoyed by this. Ancelloti also said he did not want Di Maria to go but the decision was not his.

It is also ludicrous to suggest that Di Maria was not in the top 5 real players last season. That's like suggesting that Suarez was not in the top 5 PL players last season :rolleyes:

Soups123 · 25-08-2014 03:57PM

CSF wrote: »

But he isn't one of the best players at Real, that's why he is surplus to requirements. He had a very very good spell last season. I don't disagree with that. But not a hope in hell is he in the best 5 Real players. If he was he wouldn't be leaving.

He is easily in the top 5 RM players over the past 2/3 seasons. He was superb last year. You can never rule the fact RM are looking to sell as any real indication of a player.

He was there 3/4 best player last season for sure, the fee is huge an a lot more than you would expect but the is definately a top quality player.

Perez just got the goat with him, its widely reported Ancelloti wanted to keep him

CSF · 25-08-2014 03:57PM

Christy Browne wrote: »

You obviously haven't seen the massive outcry from fans about him leaving and reportedly also, players. There is only one man in Madrid who wants Di Maria to leave and that's Florentino Perez, who unfortunately for Madrid calls the shots. He clearly haven't watched much of them if you don't think he was in their top 5 players last year, absolutely ludicrous statement.

I didn't say top 5 players last year. I said he's not in Real's 5 best players. There's a difference.

And the 'you clearly haven't watched much' line just makes people look like an idiot. I wouldn't be discussing this in such depth if I didn't watch Real nearly every week.

25-08-2014 03:58PM

CSF wrote: »

But he isn't one of the best players at Real, that's why he is surplus to requirements. He had a very very good spell last season. I don't disagree with that. But not a hope in hell is he in the best 5 Real players. If he was he wouldn't be leaving.

Jesus

5live · 25-08-2014 03:59PM

Christy Browne wrote: »

You obviously haven't seen the massive outcry from fans about him leaving and reportedly also, players. There is only one man in Madrid who wants Di Maria to leave and that's Florentino Perez, who unfortunately for Madrid calls the shots. He clearly haven't watched much of them if you don't think he was in their top 5 players last year, absolutely ludicrous statement.

Ahh i see, he has dropped from being their 2nd best player to being one of their top 5.

By morning he will barely make the match day squad:P

CSF · 25-08-2014 03:59PM

Soups123 wrote: »

He is easily in the top 5 RM players over the past 2/3 seasons. He was superb last year. You can never rule the fact RM are looking to sell as any real indication of a player.

He was there 3/4 best player last season for sure, the fee is huge an a lot more than you would expect but the is definately a top quality player.

Perez just got the goat with him, its widely reported Ancelloti wanted to keep him

To stretch out on this logic, how many Real players have left on gone on to be world class in recent times?

Robben strikes me as one, maybe you could say Higuain but I wouldn't go that far myself

Christy Browne · 25-08-2014 04:03PM

CSF wrote: »

I didn't say top 5 players last year. I said he's not in Real's 5 best players. There's a difference.

And the 'you clearly haven't watched much' line just makes people look like an idiot. I wouldn't be discussing this in such depth if I didn't watch Real nearly every week.

He has been in Madrid's top 5 players for around 3 years now, but really pushed on to another level last year. What else are you basing their best players on? 4 years ago? 5 years ago? Name your top 10 players in the world last year and we'll see.

CSF · 25-08-2014 04:06PM

Christy Browne wrote: »

He has been in Madrid's top 5 players for around 3 years now, but really pushed on to another level last year. What else are you basing their best players on? 4 years ago? 5 years ago? Name your top 10 players in the world last year and we'll see.

I don't think he has been in Real's top 5 players for that spell of time. I believe that your inclination to think so is due to the club he is joining now.

This is not a top 10 players in the world last year thread and I don't intend to take it in that direction. Rest assured it would be very full of Atleti and Bayern players though.

IrishIrish · 25-08-2014 04:06PM

CSF wrote: »

To stretch out on this logic, how many Real players have left on gone on to be world class in recent times?

Robben strikes me as one, maybe you could say Higuain but I wouldn't go that far myself

Well they haven't been selling world class players in recent years so would be pretty hard for players who have left to go on to be world class players

Higuain, Albiol and Callejon have all done very well at Napoli since they left. Sahin has maintained his level since going back to Dortmund. Ozil started well at Arsenal and you'd expect him to continue again this season. Garay was very good when he left for Benfica. Van Der Vaart did very well at spurs.

I actually can't think of many players who have left Real Madrid in recent years and not performed to a high level other than players who were always only bit part players to begin with.

Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

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