Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

The Iceland Volcano Thread

18788909293115

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Ash cloud gfs ensemble trajectories if a strong eruption where to occur.


    10349006_1552587308297698_2707589435324134795_n.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭tphase


    modelled plume distribution here

    (hypothetical of course....)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    According to Jón Frímann, Icelandic news are reporting that the caldera might be lowering. A caldera collapsing event would be a huge eruption.

    We'll just have to wait and see. This could go on for quite a while yet before anything happens (if at all).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭rickdangerouss


    According to Jón Frímann, Icelandic news are reporting that the caldera might be lowering. A caldera collapsing event would be a huge eruption.

    We'll just have to wait and see. This could go on for quite a while yet before anything happens (if at all).


    I would be very surprise if that is taking place, however small. Maybe the translation from Icelandic to English has another meaning?

    It had a 1477 Feb VEI 6 caldera event then. It is still rebuilding the caldera now.

    http://skemman.is/stream/get/1946/5993/17169/1/BAOphd.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    I would be very surprise if that is taking place, however small. Maybe the translation from Icelandic to English has another meaning?

    It had a 1477 Feb VEI 6 caldera event then. It is still rebuilding the caldera now.

    http://skemman.is/stream/get/1946/5993/17169/1/BAOphd.pdf

    Nah it's not a translation issue, he's clear about it on his blog. But whether this actually happens or not is another story completely...
    What this means in terms of an eruption I do not know, what I do know is that this type of event if it happens are never small and the following eruption might be huge.

    http://www.jonfr.com/volcano/?p=4744

    There was around 600 years between the two last large eruptions there. Around 530 years since the last one, so it's within a realistic timeframe for another large eruption, but you could also say that in 50 or 100 years time so who knows...Personally I don't feel that anything dramatic is going to be very soon, but that's just a gut feeling without any science.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭rickdangerouss


    Agree with you Maquiladora, so far no Big EQ's above 5km. Found another point of view to the Jon's source.
    His source is possibly the following from Mbl.is today at 15.46, roughly translated:

    Earthquakes today are in the caldera itself and probably indicative of the caldera lowering, according to analyst at Meteorological Institute.

    “We interpret it so that these strong earthquakes today are primarily linked to a possible settlement in the caldera itself. There has been a change in pressure in the region and magma is moving and what we see now is probably the caldera adapting to these changes, “says Sara Barsotti, Specialist in volcanic hazards with IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭diceyd


    is this the same one that erupted in 2010 or is it the bigger one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    Its a different volcano in fact I think its the largest one in iceland....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭morticia2


    http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/articles/nr/2947

    Here's the latest from IMO itself. They suggest the magma is forming a long 25km dyke intrusion in the direction of Dyngjokull and is moving away from Bardarbunga caldera. They are not sure if it will erupt at all, but the seismic activity is still pretty constant. I wonder if a fissure eruption is a possibility here?

    Diceyd, they thought Katla was going to erupt after Eyjafjallajokull as the magma chambers may be linked to some degree. So far, that hasn't happened, and Katla seems quiet. It's overdue for an eruption, though, as is Hekla. Could be an interesting few years ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,627 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Nice article from Met Eireann on it published this evening....
    Activity at Bárðarbunga Volcano
    21 August 2014
    Activity at Bárðarbunga Volcano

    Iceland is the most seismically active country in Europe, bisected by the mid-Atlantic ridge, which is a divergent feature separating the Eurasian and the North American tectonic plates. Earthquakes and volcanic activity are a constant feature of Icelandic life. The most significant recent volcanic eruptions were those of Eyjafjallajökull in April 2010, which produced an ash cloud that closed down much of Europe’s airspace for a number of days, and Grimsvötn in May 2011, the ash from which was also disruptive of air traffic, but to a much lesser extent. Grimsvötn lies under the thick ice of Europe’s largest glacier, Vatnajökull, and it is another volcano under the same ice sheet, called Bárðarbunga, which has shown significant activity in recent days and has put the aviation authorities of Europe into a state of alert.

    Since Saturday August 16th some thousands of earthquakes have been detected at Bárðarbunga by the earthquake monitoring network of the Icelandic Met Office (IMO), and the earthquakes continue to occur at an approximate rate of 1000/day (see the webpage at http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/ for more detail and the latest reports). Most of these earthquakes measure between 1 and 2 on the Richter Scale, but there have been a few exceeding 3 and one tremor recorded at 4.5. The Richter Scale is logarithmic, meaning that a tremor measuring 4 is ten times more powerful than a tremor recorded as 3. As of Thursday August 21st there have been no signs of magma migrating towards the surface, which would be a necessary precursor to an eruption, but nevertheless the IMO has issued an Orange-level aviation warning due to the increased risk. As the volcano is situated beneath an ice cap, an eruption could result in an ash plume which may have consequences for both aviation and health.

    Wind forecast data supplied by Met Éireann are used as input to an air quality model developed by the Centre for Climate and Air Pollution Studies at NUI Galway. The ash forecasting system was developed by the Volcanic Ash Strategic Team funded by the European Space Agency. They have produced a simulation of a hypothetical eruption from Bárðarbunga which can be seen online at:
    http://www.macehead.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=129:spatialplume&catid=97:volcano&Itemid=83

    This simulation is updated every afternoon with the latest wind forecast data, and illustrates the track which an ash cloud might take should the volcano actually erupt. In the event of an eruption, this model will be used in conjunction with the official guidance from the Volcanic Ash Advisory Centre (VAAC) which is run by the UK Met Office on behalf of the World Meteorological Organisation.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    4.8 mag recently, depth 3.9 according to USGS in the area. Things hotting up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭g0g


    Interesting cloud simulation (for anyone who didn't click the link above!). Appears to auto-update.
    totalcolumn.gif
    Nice article from Met Eireann on it published this evening....
    Activity at Bárðarbunga Volcano
    21 August 2014
    Activity at Bárðarbunga Volcano

    Iceland is the most seismically active country in Europe, bisected by the mid-Atlantic ridge, which is a divergent feature separating the Eurasian and the North American tectonic plates. Earthquakes and volcanic activity are a constant feature of Icelandic life. The most significant recent volcanic eruptions were those of Eyjafjallajökull in April 2010, which produced an ash cloud that closed down much of Europe’s airspace for a number of days, and Grimsvötn in May 2011, the ash from which was also disruptive of air traffic, but to a much lesser extent. Grimsvötn lies under the thick ice of Europe’s largest glacier, Vatnajökull, and it is another volcano under the same ice sheet, called Bárðarbunga, which has shown significant activity in recent days and has put the aviation authorities of Europe into a state of alert.

    Since Saturday August 16th some thousands of earthquakes have been detected at Bárðarbunga by the earthquake monitoring network of the Icelandic Met Office (IMO), and the earthquakes continue to occur at an approximate rate of 1000/day (see the webpage at http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/ for more detail and the latest reports). Most of these earthquakes measure between 1 and 2 on the Richter Scale, but there have been a few exceeding 3 and one tremor recorded at 4.5. The Richter Scale is logarithmic, meaning that a tremor measuring 4 is ten times more powerful than a tremor recorded as 3. As of Thursday August 21st there have been no signs of magma migrating towards the surface, which would be a necessary precursor to an eruption, but nevertheless the IMO has issued an Orange-level aviation warning due to the increased risk. As the volcano is situated beneath an ice cap, an eruption could result in an ash plume which may have consequences for both aviation and health.

    Wind forecast data supplied by Met Éireann are used as input to an air quality model developed by the Centre for Climate and Air Pollution Studies at NUI Galway. The ash forecasting system was developed by the Volcanic Ash Strategic Team funded by the European Space Agency. They have produced a simulation of a hypothetical eruption from Bárðarbunga which can be seen online at:
    http://www.macehead.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=129:spatialplume&catid=97:volcano&Itemid=83

    This simulation is updated every afternoon with the latest wind forecast data, and illustrates the track which an ash cloud might take should the volcano actually erupt. In the event of an eruption, this model will be used in conjunction with the official guidance from the Volcanic Ash Advisory Centre (VAAC) which is run by the UK Met Office on behalf of the World Meteorological Organisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭pp_me


    I was watching the webcam and it just started shaking for 2-3 seconds and stopped. If that was an earthquake, that was pretty cool.

    EDIT: It just shook again.. maybe not earthquakes..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭pp_me


    If youre looking at that 3D view the webcam shakes when its updated.

    It shakes when its updated.. how bizzare!

    EDIT: There is a checkbox to stop the shake but it was only visible to me when my browser was fullscreen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    g0g wrote: »
    Interesting cloud simulation (for anyone who didn't click the link above!). Appears to auto-update.
    Any idea what level of ash is sufficient to ground flights?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭rickdangerouss


    Thursday 21.08.2014 23:50:20 64.620 -17.459 4.3 km 4.7 99.0 4.0 km SE of Bárðarbunga

    Strongest of the 6000+ Earth quakes, so far. Still no uplift in the GPS stations, apart from old grim.

    http://strokkur.raunvis.hi.is/~sigrun/GFUM.html

    http://strokkur.raunvis.hi.is/~sigrun/#VATN This link is for the Bárðarbunga GPS stations.

    That's what it look like when Grímsvotn erupted last time.


    The information below is 2+ days old.

    Possible model of the dike intrusion:

    Length of dike: 20 km

    Height of dike: 2,1 km

    Opening of dike: 1,6 m

    Depth to the dike: 3 km

    Volume of dike: 80-90 million cubic meters

    Strike = 47,51, dip 90 (predefined)

    Depth to Mogi source: 1 km

    Volume change of Mogi source:

    -10 til -30 million cubic meters

    http://earthice.hi.is/bardarbunga_new_map_gps_and_seismic_data- Link for the data above

    The MAR *Mid Atlantic Rift* basic picture, with some GP stations.

    island_gps_12en2.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭rickdangerouss


    pp_me wrote: »
    I was watching the webcam and it just started shaking for 2-3 seconds and stopped. If that was an earthquake, that was pretty cool.

    EDIT: It just shook again.. maybe not earthquakes..


    It can be an earthquake, but most of the time it is wind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭tphase


    g0g wrote: »
    Interesting cloud simulation (for anyone who didn't click the link above!). Appears to auto-update.

    it's a simulation of an ash plume not a cloud :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭pp_me


    3.5 quake a little over an hour ago same area but a little deeper than the 4.7 last night!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭g0g


    tphase wrote: »
    it's a simulation of an ash plume not a cloud :)
    Thanks Mr Pedantic! This is why I rarely post on the weather forum because I mostly get it wrong! :) Can it not be referred to as an "ash cloud"?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭rickdangerouss


    When 3 becomes 4... :D

    IMO underestimating magnitude earthquake early days of seismic cycle in Bárðarbunga. This was corrected yesterday and is now clear that the eruption is still more powerful than previously thought. "We were actually underestimate the size or the window as we looked at them was too short," says Kristin Vogfjörð, earthquake scientist and research director of the Icelandic Meteorological Office, in conversation with a newsroom of 365. "energy that earthquakes were sending out was not in the window that we were using. When we went to see it better then they expanded. It works because as they have suddenly expanded, but actually have tremors in recent days has been a little underestimated


    [URL=http://www.visir.is/skjalftar-i-bardarbungu-kerfisbundid-
    vanmetnir/article/2014140829697"]http://http://www.visir.is/skjalftar-i-bardarbungu-kerfisbundid-
    vanmetnir/article/2014140829697[/URL]

    Fréttastofa RÚV @RUVfrettir · 2 h

    #Bardarbunga Large crustal movements detected in relation to magma intrusion. http://www.ruv.is/frett/met-office-25-km-long-dyke-formed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Popoutman


    hmmm wrote: »
    Any idea what level of ash is sufficient to ground flights?

    > 4mg / m^3 (the second tier on the colour chart on that map, 2nd lightest grey)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_ash_and_aviation_safety
    To minimise further disruption that this and other volcanic eruptions could cause, the CAA created a new category of restricted airspace called a Time Limited Zone.[7] Airspace categorised as TLZ is similar to airspace under severe weather conditions, in that restrictions should be of a short duration. However, a key difference with TLZ airspace is that airlines must produce certificates of compliance for aircraft they want to enter these areas. Any airspace where ash density exceeds 4 mg per cubic metre is prohibited airspace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Big tremor spike. It's possible an eruption may be about to start, but too early to say yet. At the very least this is a new phase in activity.

    http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/oroi/dyn.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭rickdangerouss


    Possible red alert going to be issued via IMO , soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Possible red alert going to be issued via IMO , soon.

    They are holding at orange for now but that could change quickly. They are carrying out an observation flight over the area now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭rickdangerouss




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭rickdangerouss


    http://www.ruv.is/frett/litid-gos-hafid-i-dyngjujokli

    Small eruption has begun at the crack northeast of Bárðarbunga in Dyngjujökli, says Kristin Jonsdottir, with the Meteorological Institute. Air traffic over a wide area around Bárðarbunga has been banned: The IMO has amended its warning in red. Dyke is 25 km. lengthy and increased functionality has been there.

    Willow Reynisson Civil says neyðarstig be prepared. The event is a little unclear, but each of these changes. TF SIF is in flight and will be over the glacier. Is being closed canyon and waterfall region where tourists come away.

    You activate Coordinating Centre for Civil Protection. No evacuation will then find ourselves in Kelduhverfi or Öxarfjörður, according to Civil Defense. Broadcast live on Channel 2 People where is encouraged to remain alert and monitor the radio and switched on their mobile phones, says Willow.

    Kristin says that it can not rule out a larger eruption. Considerable divergence has been the past few days and it has appeared on GPS gauges. Every day, indicating that magma is flowing into the clip; potential to become a similar trend to that in the Krafla eruption, when many tens of miles aside and cracks opened up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    IMO believe a minor sub-glacial eruption has started under the ice. That does explain the big spike we saw a couple of hours ago. May or not reach the surface. That will depend on the thickness of the ice and the strength of the eruption. So far it seems to be quite small and the tremor is dropping, but it's early days.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I tried to check one of the webcams, but it's been flattened by the traffic. :o

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



Advertisement