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Minister wants An Post to be allowed access Sky and UPC subscription data

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  • #62
    tinz18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭tinz18


    Thanks Fred, was wondering for a while about that.


  • #63
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    tinz18 wrote: »
    What happens in the scenarios where the name(s) on the Sky account has left their rented accommodation and moved elsewhere? I've seen cases where I've moved into the house and the UPC/Sky account is in someones name that hasn't lived there for years as they were still in contract when moving out and couldn't switch the account name to some of the other tenants who remained?

    They would send letters to that person at the address they no longer live at leading to a summons which won't get answered unless everything is being passed along.

    Assuming it does get to the account owner then he doesn't live there so is not liable.


  • #64
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #65
    Onthe3rdDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    Also having a sky account doesn't actually mean you have a TV or receiving equipment on the premises. If you choose to set up an account, sky will keep that account active for as long as you pay them. They couldn't care less if you have your equipment on/off, or in the bin.

    So having a Sky account only technically means you've a sky account, not the receiving apparatus on the property the account is registered to.


  • #66
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #67
    Onthe3rdDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    So basically the only way to make any extra money from this is to change the licence legislation to say that if you have a SKY account you must have a TV licence. That's not going to be happening.

    I doubt if any of this will actually happen anyway. It's a smokescreen so that we will forget about the other proposal of communication fee for every house. All they're thinking about at this stage is reelection, better not to rock the boat until after the middle of next year.


  • #68
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    When you started your contract, you needed a TV licence which lastas a year. Therefore, the TV licence continues to the time when you stop paying Sky.

    However, the legislation concerning TV licences does appear a little porous in my view. If you move house, you take the licence with you, but you do not need to inform an Post, so an inspection at your new address is faced with a genuine licence, but your old address is not inspected because it is listed as having a licence.

    As is said above, the law needs updating. Having a contract for supply of a TV service should require that you have a TV licence. The law might as well require Sky and UPC to collect it and report that they have. FTA viewers are treated as now.


  • #69
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #70
    sausagekayak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭sausagekayak


    Got an interesting one today.

    A letter arrived into my apartment. The heading was "Notice of Legal Proceedings". It was addressed to my name and not "the occupier". In the letter it states that the tv inspector called to my apt and interviewed someone who identified themselves as a casual visitor and confirmed that there was a TV on the premises.

    First thing is that they used my English name, I changed my name to Irish about 3 years ago and the only place I have it in English is with UPC and the banks.
    Secondly, no one I know who is a casual visitor to my apartment was interviewed.

    I know this is BS, but they have my name now, weather it be in English or Irish i think is irrelevant.

    So I guess I should pay up!

    I just cant understand how they got my English name or my name full stop. Maybe they when routing though the mailboxes downstairs and say a bank statement sent to me or something.

    Anyone in the same situation?


  • #71
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    sausagekayak wrote: »
    Got an interesting one today.

    A letter arrived into my apartment. The heading was "Notice of Legal Proceedings". It was addressed to my name and not "the occupier". In the letter it states that the tv inspector called to my apt and interviewed someone who identified themselves as a casual visitor and confirmed that there was a TV on the premises.

    First thing is that they used my English name, I changed my name to Irish about 3 years ago and the only place I have it in English is with UPC and the banks.
    Secondly, no one I know who is a casual visitor to my apartment was interviewed.

    I know this is BS, but they have my name now, weather it be in English or Irish i think is irrelevant.

    So I guess I should pay up!

    I just cant understand how they got my English name or my name full stop. Maybe they when routing though the mailboxes downstairs and say a bank statement sent to me or something.

    Anyone in the same situation?

    Do you have bins outside? They got my housemate's name with that before.


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  • #72
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #73
    Onthe3rdDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Onthe3rdDay


    Neighbours can be a curse without even knowing it. When I was living with friends in Dublin in the nineties A TV licence inspector called to the house. We had a licence but he then engaged housemate1 in five minutes of conversation. He managed to get at least 3 names out of him. Luckily for the Neighbourhood we didn't know that many people around.

    When housemate1 came back to the table myself and housemate 2 Started to give out to him about the info he had given out. He held his ground (as he always does) and said your man at the door was just being friendly...


  • #74
    sausagekayak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭sausagekayak


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    we have communal bins and my neighbors don't know my name. I can only guess that the inspector got into our apartment block and checked a letter that was hanging out of the mail box.

    Anyway, Ill have to pay it now, along with the universal charge and water charges coming soon. We're all going to be skint!


  • #75
    mikeym
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Pure sneaky tactics from the inspectors.


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