Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Manutd_4life · 17-08-2014 06:48PM

Been out all day today. What did I miss (transfer news, quotes from players, team news, etc)

Blatter · 17-08-2014 06:49PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

havent seen any replays of the game and i didnt get a proper look at the goal, but could De gea have dont better for it?

I wouldn't say so, there was a few players in his way and it was hit with a fair bit of pace from quite close in. He could have kept it out but it would have been luck more than anything.

J. Marston · 17-08-2014 06:53PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Ladyman has his say..

"Interest."

It's August 17th and apparently we're only at the interest stage. At least we're past the monitoring stage. Who knows, maybe in another 6-8 months we might actually prepare a bid or make an enquiry.

Copper_pipe · 17-08-2014 06:55PM

Indykaila says Benatia to Bayern is a done deal, Sky say hes off to United. Its Jim White vs an ITK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlrrUgMqPP8

Manutd_4life · 17-08-2014 06:55PM

J. Marston wrote: »

"Interest."

It's August 17th and apparently we're only at the interest stage. At least we're past the monitoring stage. Who knows, maybe in another 6-8 months we might actually prepare a bid or make an enquiry.

Only 6-8 months!!! I'd say at least 2-3 more transfer windows

twam2008 · 17-08-2014 06:56PM

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Indykaila says Benatia to Bayern is a done deal, Sky say hes off to United. Its Jim White vs an ITK

He's coming to us then

kippy · 17-08-2014 06:58PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Yes beause but laughing at the rubbish you posted, and it was rubbish, means Pro F is trying to say everything is fine :rolleyes:

Thats some great logic youve got going there

You were calling other fans outside the Stretford end muppets before, you were banging on with some other condescending crap about being a better fan because you go to more matches and others could afford it if they were more dedicated or something equaly stupid in that vein before.

We ofter hear about how you and the good ol'boys in the stretty are loyal and clapped Moyes all the way and other stories about being asked to leave the stretty when you failed to appreciate Vidics loyalty.

Now your Derek Acorah. Its all in your head and its an see thorugh agenda.

Often you try to come accross as some sort of real voice of the fans or senior all knowing supporter on here and its cringe worthy.

The only impression I get from those posts you make is that the Stretty is packed with pathetic knuckle dragging middle aged men who use football for a gang mentality because they are that sad.

Youve just defined your standard (75 odd percent) regular match going fan at pretty much any club in England.

billyhead · 17-08-2014 06:58PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I have major reservations about Giggs being involved, to be honest. I've voiced them here before and got attacked for it. And I get called a conspiracy theorist for a certain belief that I have.
On Giggs, I'll just say this, if I was manager I wouldn't want someone who is after my job and is mates with lots of the players as part of my immediate staff.

listen, it appears Tom Cleverley is getting a new contract. Something stinks with that. Who is the one giving the green light for such a contract? The lad had been dirt for two years. Had a rubbish pre-season. So how does he get a new deal?
Is LVG really sanctioning that? Honest question to everyone: who is giving this lad a new deal?
LVG? Woodward?

Fergie...?

True. No doubt about it Giggs was a fantastic player and servant for Man Utd and will go down as one of our greatest but he should have walked away after last season and tried a managerial job somewhere else to gain his stripes. Last season aswell he was too matey with the players who were rubbish and as far as I am aware he was one of the pivotal figures in the behind the scenes uprising to get rid of Moyes. Rio was the other senior player. He stabbed Moyes in the back (nasty piece of work)

DM_7 · 17-08-2014 07:01PM

Jesus has no tears left now lads

This thread has become everything we used to laugh at. I am laughing now at some of the mad theories.

At least it will be closed soon.

United need some new, better players, Van Gaal agrees, he needs time to get his systems and ideas to work. Senior staff like Woodward need to step it up and get what he needs and wants.

I want a new thread, this one is broken...

Larry Wildman · 17-08-2014 07:04PM

How good is Benatia?

I haven't seen enough of him.

redbaron_99 · 17-08-2014 07:07PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

Jesus has no tears left now lads

This thread has become everything we used to laugh at. I am laughing now at some of the mad theories.

At least it will be closed soon.

United need some new, better players, Van Gaal agrees, he needs time to get his systems and ideas to work. Senior staff like Woodward need to step it us and get what he needs and wants.

I want a new thread, this one is broken...

United need some new, better players - yes, we all agree. The club has two weeks left to get them for this season.

Van Gaal agrees - he says so, but we're still not getting players in.

He needs time to get his systems and ideas to work - totally agree. he'll need months to do this.

Senior staff like Woodward need to step up - no sh*t. :pac:

Saw a list of the board of directors earlier. It's almost entirely populated with Glazers. There's like a dozen of them there. I wonder if this actually causes a problem? These people are blood suckers, they're family (argue over the colour of sh*te) and wouldn't know much about "soccer". Can't really see them being very decisive in terms of the transfer market.

Quandary · 17-08-2014 07:09PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

How good is Benatia?

I haven't seen enough of him.

We'll see plenty of him soon on Tuesday/Wednesday nights for Bayern :pac:

TheDoc · 17-08-2014 07:09PM

I would think Bentia will be Bayern bound.

Blind and Rojo looks like our business. And I think we will wait until January and go after Strootman. Someone clever might put something in place in advance with Roma.

Something needs to happen in the next two weeks. For real.

kryogen · 17-08-2014 07:11PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

1.We're a rabble and a shambles.

2.One has to ask whether Van Gaal's time as an international manager means that he's not up to speed on transfer targets.

3.Yesterday was shameful and Van Gaal's "24 hour" comments were naive in the extreme.

4.Let's hope that this guy isn't actually worse than Moyes. He was sacked by Bayern and failed spectacularly with Holland during the 2002 World Cup qualification series.

5.Is Van Gaal doesn't think that we need at least three players, he's a fool.

1. No we're not.
2. After asking, one should then slap oneself for asking stupid questions
3. Yesterday was disappointing. LVG 24hour comment was accurate actually
4. I can't be arsed responding to that ****e.
5. Typo's in sentences insulting others intelligence makes for fun moments.

brinty · 17-08-2014 07:13PM

Copper_pipe wrote: »

The Ice bucket challenge will be hitting posters in this thread soon :pac::pac:

I challenge the following posters to do it
Bangkok
Larry Wildman
Copper_pipe
The_Kew_Tour
Maximus Alexander
MagicIRL

homerjay2005 · 17-08-2014 07:16PM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Does anyone have a list of all the players united tried to sign this summer?

Really hard to say for sure as their could be some players we went for that never made it to public spectrum.

Vermaelen - widely accepted we went for him, he chose Barcelona.
Rojo - widely accepted we have bid for him - he probably will sign.

after that, nothing else is guaranteed to be correct though some links carry more weight than others.

Vidal - the link is there, i think he will sign (though who would blame him if he didnt)
Di Maria - just paper talk at moment, nothing to confirm it.
Benatia - just paper talk at moment, nothing to confirm it.

Kroos & Fabregas - press says LVG didnt want them - reality could be he didnt want us and we never went for him once LVG took over.

Headshot wrote: »

You should all face it that we arent going to get any considerable players in now. Utd are a bit of a joke in transfer windows. .

this cannot be allowed to happen and it wont happen....while Moyes allowed it, LVG wont.

theres at least 2 signings coming, i refuse to belief that the club will allow this mess to continue, its gone too far now and heads will roll if the players dont come in.

A stage will come when we will have to throw serious money at a player (like Arsenal did with Ozil last year) and while ive always been opposed to overspending, im finally going to join those who dont have a problem with it, as we dont have a choice now. of course if its a Cavani for £50m it would be madness, but a Vidal or a Di Maria is needed.

as TSC said earlier, we are desperate now. the players need lifting, as do our fans.

kryogen · 17-08-2014 07:16PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I have major reservations about Giggs being involved, to be honest. I've voiced them here before and got attacked for it. And I get called a conspiracy theorist for a certain belief that I have.
On Giggs, I'll just say this, if I was manager I wouldn't want someone who is after my job and is mates with lots of the players as part of my immediate staff.

listen, it appears Tom Cleverley is getting a new contract. Something stinks with that. Who is the one giving the green light for such a contract? The lad had been dirt for two years. Had a rubbish pre-season. So how does he get a new deal?
Is LVG really sanctioning that? Honest question to everyone: who is giving this lad a new deal?
LVG? Woodward?

Fergie...?

Woodward will be giving him the new deal, acting on behalf of the club, sanctioned by Louis Van Gaal.

Why? Few reasons I suppose, if you do want to sell him next year or whatever it makes sense to have him on a longer contract to maximise value, he is handy to have for the homegrown requirements, he is happy to be a squad player and should actually be ok to come in a do a job now and then.

billyhead · 17-08-2014 07:17PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

United need some new, better players - yes, we all agree. The club has two weeks left to get them for this season.

Van Gaal agrees - he says so, but we're still not getting players in.

He needs time to get his systems and ideas to work - totally agree. he'll need months to do this.

Senior staff like Woodward need to step up - no sh*t. :pac:

Saw a list of the board of directors earlier. It's almost entirely populated with Glazers. There's like a dozen of them there. I wonder if this actually causes a problem? These people are blood suckers, they're family (argue over the colour of sh*te) and wouldn't know much about "soccer". Can't really see them being very decisive in terms of the transfer market.

I agree. The glazers are ruining this club. Look at the transactions on the transfer market since they took over the ownership. A massive decline in quality and don't say that Mata was a great buy. He has yet to prove his worth. Hes been as useful as a handbreak on a canoe so far. We need to put down a marker on the transfer market and sign world class players starting with Vidal or Di Maria to stop the rot. Were going backwards not forwards.
Players we've lost since 2009:
van der Sar
Neville
Evra
Hargreaves
Ferdinand
Brown
Ronaldo
Saha
Berbatov
Giggs
Vidic
Scholes
O'Shea
Silvestre
Pogba
Tevez
And obviously SAF

Players we've bought since 2009:
Valencia
Owen
Obertan
Smalling
Hernandez
Bebe
Lindegaard
Jones
Young
De Gea
Kagawa
Powell
van Persie
Buttner
Zaha
Fellaini
Mata
Shaw
Herrera

redbaron_99 · 17-08-2014 07:17PM

Saw a list of the board of directors earlier. It's almost entirely populated with Glazers. There's like a dozen of them there. I wonder if this actually causes a problem? These people are blood suckers, they're family (argue over the colour of sh*te) and wouldn't know much about "soccer". Can't really see them being very decisive in terms of the transfer market.

there were also stories doing the rounds a few months back that some members of the family wanted out, while others didn't. Would a conflict of this sort affect the club? You know, a transfer is proposed, most give the green light, but a handful who want the club sold, deliberately veto the transfer just to be awkward.

Blatter · 17-08-2014 07:19PM

Would strongly believe the club are trying for Di Maria. Daniel Taylor, Ladyman and someone from the BBC have all said it.

Larry Wildman · 17-08-2014 07:20PM

kryogen wrote: »

1. No we're not.
2. After asking, one should then slap oneself for asking stupid questions
3. Yesterday was disappointing. LVG 24hour comment was accurate actually
4. I can't be arsed responding to that ****e.
5. Typo's in sentences insulting others intelligence makes for fun moments.

- We are a shambles actually

- So your contention is that international manager stay as up to speed with club football as club managers? Right...

- You agree that "it takes 24 hours to sign a player"? Past experience with United and transfers would suggest otherwise.

- You choose to ignore the fact that Van Gaal was sacked...interesting.

- Grammar Nazism? How interesting...

kryogen · 17-08-2014 07:24PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

- We are a shambles actually

- So your contention is that international manager stay as up to speed with club football as club managers? Right...

- You agree that "it takes 24 hours to sign a player"? Past experience with United and transfers would suggest otherwise.

- You choose to ignore the fact that Van Gaal was sacked...interesting.

- Grammar Nazism? How interesting...

- No we are not

- That doesn't need to be my contention for you to be incorrect

- yes, a player can be signed in 24 hours. Shock. Horror.

- I choose not to my eyes bleed trying to word a response that would not result in being infracted. Mundane.

- Only when the irony is strong.

redbaron_99 · 17-08-2014 07:24PM

kryogen wrote: »

Woodward will be giving him the new deal, acting on behalf of the club, sanctioned by Louis Van Gaal.

Why? Few reasons I suppose, if you do want to sell him next year or whatever it makes sense to have him on a longer contract to maximise value, he is handy to have for the homegrown requirements, he is happy to be a squad player and should actually be ok to come in a do a job now and then.

In fairness, that's a good response.

Copper_pipe · 17-08-2014 07:26PM

brinty wrote: »

I challenge the following posters to do it
Bangkok
Larry Wildman
Copper_pipe
The_Kew_Tour
Maximus Alexander
MagicIRL

Heres my one

kryogen · 17-08-2014 07:26PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

In fairness, that's a good response.

Hey I am certainly no fan of his, but since he is there, and given the options we have right now I can understand him getting a new contract. Has it been confirmed? I was more put out by Valencia getting a new deal tbh

Headshot · 17-08-2014 07:26PM

Blatter wrote: »

Would strongly believe the club are trying for Di Maria. Daniel Taylor, Ladyman and someone from the BBC have all said it.

Tis be a mad signing say I

Great player but like most transfer windows we dont need this kind of player

TheTownie · 17-08-2014 07:29PM

Headshot wrote: »

Tis be a mad signing say I

Great player but like most transfer windows we dont need this kind of player

We do need that type of player but its not a priority. Should be going balls out for a cm and cb's, then sort out the wide positions.

Vic Vinegar · 17-08-2014 07:29PM

Headshot wrote: »

Tis be a mad signing say I

Great player but like most transfer windows we dont need this kind of player

Pace up front would be nice, no?

DM_7 · 17-08-2014 07:30PM

billyhead wrote: »

I agree. The glazers are ruining this club. Look at the transactions on the transfer market since they took over the ownership. A massive decline in quality and don't say that Mata was a great buy. He has yet to prove his worth. Hes been as useful as a handbreak on a canoe so far. We need to put down a marker on the transfer market and sign world class players starting with Vidal or Di Maria to stop the rot. Were going backwards not forwards.
Players we've lost since 2009

Your list only includes Ronaldo as a player who didn't retire, was out of contract or was sold for decent money. Then the list of players coming in show a high amount of money was spent.

It seems people will keep blaming the Glazers as if they don't allow money to be spent or they chose who to buy. They have allowed money to be spent and its certainly a case of the players fans wanting (retrospectively) not arriving rather than them not backing the manager(s).

Whatever restrictions exist on spending have not caused the loss to Swansea or last seasons mess. It may be why United don't have a squad like Real but its not why United were not in the top four last season.

RayCun · 17-08-2014 07:30PM

Headshot wrote: »

Tis be a mad signing say I

Great player but like most transfer windows we dont need this kind of player

Direct, pacy, a great out ball - yeah, we need a player like that

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