Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Hank Scorpio · 16-08-2014 03:04PM

RVN10 wrote: »

Am I the only one who thought januazji was absolutely awful , wake up lads will ye

He did great beating players but kept shooting from impossible angles, bit greedy but he did add that urgency that led to Rooney's goal

MagicMarker · 16-08-2014 03:05PM

Montroseee wrote: »

DO you not think that Januzaj is actually better than Ronaldo was at 19? I certainly do.

He most definitely is not.

irishfeen · 16-08-2014 03:05PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Of all the players i be blaming it would not be Younger lads anyway.

These performances are the fault of no players at United - some lack quality because they are past it and some because they are just average players. The world class players have to accommodate this lack of quality and work harder in winning the ball back, defending and helping out the rest. These results are as a direct result of the clubs inability to sign world class players window after window like City, Chelsea, Barca, Real etc.

We are in big trouble for the second year running, Champions League will be a great season at this point.

irishfeen · 16-08-2014 03:05PM

Duplicate Post.

Panthro · 16-08-2014 03:07PM

First game of the season lads, relax let ye.
See how they fare next week.

RVN10 · 16-08-2014 03:09PM

Good thing we have an easy run first few games..... oh wait

RobertKK · 16-08-2014 03:09PM

Remember that disaster season where we started with a 3-1 defeat to Aston Villa...or Arsenal's disaster season last year where they lost their opening match 3-1 to Villa too.
Losing first match = disaster...

But what comes after might not be.

How Soon Is Now · 16-08-2014 03:10PM

From what ive been reading Rio having a good debut for QPR today.

Still think he had another year or two in him with United. His experience alone would of been massive to us.

Just jinxed him haha.

Larry Wildman · 16-08-2014 03:11PM

Panthro wrote: »

First game of the season lads, relax let ye.
See how they fare next week.

We're Manchester United, not Cardiff City. Those 3 points could be the difference between 4th and 5th.

We're a shambles and in worse shape than 12 months ago.

yermandan · 16-08-2014 03:12PM

I was delighted with Blackett and all of the younger lads. It will improve, but not without selling and buying

PhlegmyMoses · 16-08-2014 03:12PM

Montroseee wrote: »

DO you not think that Januzaj is actually better than Ronaldo was at 19? I certainly do.

Nah, I think time and what he eventually became has improved people's opinions of Ronaldo as a young lad but he was still better than Januzaj.

There are similarities between the two. Ronaldo was a bright spot in a transitional phase for United and Januzaj is in that situation now. Ronaldo was infuriating with his end-product, same as Januzaj at times.

But Ronaldo has become one of the best players ever. Don't really like talking about Januzaj in the same sentence as it's an unfair comparison.

irishfeen · 16-08-2014 03:16PM

Panthro wrote: »

First game of the season lads, relax let ye.
See how they fare next week.

To be honest even you having to say that is worrying - this is Manchester United...

RobertKK · 16-08-2014 03:20PM

Reminds me of Arsenal last year and the doom in the Arsenal thread after match day 1.

MisterAnarchy · 16-08-2014 03:22PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Remember that disaster season where we started with a 3-1 defeat to Aston Villa...
Losing first match = disaster...

The problem isnt just losing ,its the fact that the team has hardly any decent players and created hardly any chances .

Not one of the current squad would get into the first 11 of the 95-96 season .
Schmeichel
Gary Neville Bruce Pallister Irwin
Beckham Keane Scholes/Butt Giggs/Sharpe
Cantona Cole

Pro. F · 16-08-2014 03:27PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The problem isnt just losing ,its the fact that the team has hardly any decent players and created hardly any chances .

Not one of the current squad would get into the first 11 of the 95-96 season .
Schmeichel
Gary Neville Bruce Pallister Irwin
Beckham Keane Scholes/Butt Giggs/Sharpe
Cantona Cole

That is a particularly stupid statement.

J. Marston · 16-08-2014 03:27PM

Subtle, David. Real subtle.

https://vine.co/v/M3mW53YM7hB

Watch him get sacked now.

TheTownie wrote: »

LVG post match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBhIRvj9YYI

Lets enjoy being able to post youtube videos while it lasts. :rolleyes:

What's that mean? Boards isn't banning Youtube vids, are they?!

Nailz · 16-08-2014 03:29PM

I remember a few seasons ago we only picked up 2 points from our opening 3 games, including a loss to a poor City team. What season was that?? Oh yeah, 07/08...

MisterAnarchy · 16-08-2014 03:29PM

Pro. F wrote: »

That is a particularly stupid statement.

Since when are you a moderator ,you do not own this forum lad.

Adamocovic · 16-08-2014 03:30PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The problem isnt just losing ,its the fact that the team has hardly any decent players and created hardly any chances .

Not one of the current squad would get into the first 11 of the 95-96 season .
Schmeichel
Gary Neville Bruce Pallister Irwin
Beckham Keane Scholes/Butt Giggs/Sharpe
Cantona Cole

Im not trying to take anything away from that opinion but why compare the team to that of 95-96? You're comparing a team what was one of our most successful to a team just off the back of our worst every Premiership finish.

Most of the players on that team today have the ability to be part of a side that can do well in the league, and have shown so before.

It was a flat performance but one poor game doesn't mean it will be a poor season.

Hank Scorpio · 16-08-2014 03:31PM

Nailz wrote: »

I remember a few seasons ago we only picked up 2 points from our opening 3 games, including a loss to a poor City team. What season was that?? Oh yeah, 07/08...

The starting 11 today would resemble a league cup lineout in that 07/08 squad, if even that

JRant · 16-08-2014 03:32PM

I really think we are close to having a very exciting side.

Unfortunately close is just not good enough. A couple of midfield signings would make all the difference IMO.

They said you couldn't win anything with kids but you'll definitely not win with Fletcher starting in MF. He is far to one paced to be playing for a top side. Not sure he'd be starting for any of the teams that finished above us last season.

Incredibly we are one of the richest clubs in the world and yet have such a poor midfield. Look at City, Arsenal, Bayern, Real, Barca's midfield and then look at ours. They need to start addressing this area immediately or it's going to be a very long road back.

Pro. F · 16-08-2014 03:32PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Since when are you a moderator ,you do not own this forum lad.

What are you talking about lad? Since when do you have to be a moderator to criticise what somebody says lad?

TheTownie · 16-08-2014 03:33PM

J. Marston wrote: »

What's that mean? Boards isn't banning Youtube vids, are they?!

No but I never thought a few seconds worth of poor quality gifs and vines would be banned so anything is possible after that imo, despite what they say about it.

Adamocovic · 16-08-2014 03:34PM

Before we start going onto the whole starting 11 not having the quality again I'm just going to point out the fact, David De Gea, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Ashley Young, Darren Fletcher, Hernandez, and Rooney all have been part of a Premiership winning side.

Lets be honest, we can't use "poor players" as an excuse. It was just a poor performance. Sure it wasn't ideal with injuries but still, very flat pedestrian display. And no real conviction in front of goal.

JRant · 16-08-2014 03:35PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Reminds me of Arsenal last year and the doom in the Arsenal thread after match day 1.

Very true but Arsenal still had Ramsey after that defeat. We have Fletcher and TC23.

Nailz · 16-08-2014 03:35PM

nuxxx wrote: »

The starting 11 today would resemble a league cup lineout in that 07/08 squad, if even that

I agree, but my point is that seeing people lose the plot after the very first game of the season – a season in which we also have a new manager and when we're trying to settle into a system none of the players apart from an injured van Persie have never played with before – is just a bit daft, with 2/3 new first team quality players I am positive this will be a good season for United, in relativity.

MisterAnarchy · 16-08-2014 03:35PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Im not trying to take anything away from that opinion but why compare the team to that of 95-96? You're comparing a team what was one of our most successful to a team just off the back of our worst every Premiership finish.

95-96 was the season that Utd lost their opening game 3-1 away to Aston Villa as referenced by

Remember that disaster season where we started with a 3-1 defeat to Aston Villa...
Losing first match = disaster...

Big difference in quality of that side and this side

bucketybuck · 16-08-2014 03:37PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Reminds me of Arsenal last year and the doom in the Arsenal thread after match day 1.

Nailz wrote: »

I remember a few seasons ago we only picked up 2 points from our opening 3 games, including a loss to a poor City team. What season was that?? Oh yeah, 07/08...

Posts like this are incredibly myopic. This isn't just a bad day at the office, a poor performance from a quality group of players. The result isn't even important, whats important is that it showed once again all the problems that we knew existed, it reinforced all the serious issues that were obvious to even the most blinkered fans.

Posts like those above almost suggest that this group of players are going to waltz out next time and play like the champions of old. They simply aren't, they can't, this squad failed all last season and they are just going to fail again, major changes were needed and unfortunately they are still needed.

MANUTD99 · 16-08-2014 03:38PM

Nailz wrote: »

I remember a few seasons ago we only picked up 2 points from our opening 3 games, including a loss to a poor City team. What season was that?? Oh yeah, 07/08...

Give me a break trying to defend the nonsense that has gone on again this transfer window.

Look at the squad we had the season you quoted

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%9308_Manchester_United_F.C._season#In

We have a shocking squad of players. There is simply no defending it at this stage. This game today is not going to give Van Gaal the bright light to buy players. He like everybody else knows we need lots of players. Its above him that is lacking bringing the quality in

Adamocovic · 16-08-2014 03:38PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

95-96 was the season that Utd lost their opening game 3-1 away to Aston Villa as referenced by

Apologies didn't see the reference. Thought you were just picking out how the players aren't up to standard!

Still think it's a bit too early to predict a bad season.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

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