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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,941 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Any transfer action at this stage I will take. The more I think of Woodie mouthing off a few weeks back when nowt was in the pipeline the more angry I get. You can only say 'watch this space' when fcuking something is about to happen, not as an interview soundbite.

    This is what I am afraid of - that we will end up buying more bang average players, just adding numbers, not quality.

    We need signings, but they also need to be the right signings. I don't want another Fellaini.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭Your Airbag


    If Louis Van Gaal has assessed the squad and concluded that the only player we need is Vermalen, then we are royally f..ked.


    He has made some strange calls in this transfer window. I hope he knows what he is doing but the point I'm making is people seem to be laying all the blame with Wooward when he is just following LVG's intructions.

    LVG doesn't seem like the type who would keep quite if Woodward was making a balls of multiple bids, he would come out and say "I have asked for players but it has not happened and I am not happy". The papers knew of our bids last summer, they are a lot quiter this summer because the enquires are not happening. These are LVGs calls. Woodward can clearly enquire and make bids, he can also get deals done quickly.

    The reason its not happening or as quick as we want is down to LVG not Woodward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Who would people like Van Gaal replaced with?

    Since a bunch of people seem not to think he's doing a good job already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Who would people like Van Gaal replaced with?

    Since a bunch of people seem not to think he's doing a good job already.

    I hear David Moyes is available


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭WillyWonka


    Not sure if this is obvious but match is available to stream from MUTV for €1.99

    http://unitedlive.manutd.com/watch-09-08-2014/register


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭Your Airbag


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Who would people like Van Gaal replaced with?

    Since a bunch of people seem not to think he's doing a good job already.


    This is a post intent on winding people up. Just because you critisise a cerain factor of a mangers work doesn't mean you think he is'nt good enough.

    Like any other manager LVG isn't flawless.

    He has done a great job with getting the players on his side and implementing a new system and getting the team playing decent football. He is a very confident and decisive man and I'm delighted he is our manager.

    His transfer activity has been odd. There is nothing wrong with saying that.

    The positives far outwiegh that one negative and you will always have negatives because football managers are humans just like the rest of us.

    I don't recall anyone saying he isn't good enough. Who exactly are you referring to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,941 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Who would people like Van Gaal replaced with?

    Since a bunch of people seem not to think he's doing a good job already.

    I want woodward replaced, not LVG.

    My personal belief is that LVG has asked for a number of players - Hummels, Vermaelen, Vidal, Cuadrado, Di Maria, likely some others too like Blind, and that Woodward has failed to sign any of them. I don't actually believe LVG is till trying to decide if we need signings, i think much of what he has said in this regard has simply been lying to the media, keeping his opinions to himself and United.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    This is a post intent on winding people up. Just because you critisise a cerain factor of a mangers work doesn't mean you think he is'nt good enough.

    Like any other manager LVG isn't flawless.

    He has done a great job with getting the players on his side and implementing a new system and getting the team playing decent football. He is a very confident and decisive man and I'm delighted he is our manager.

    His transfer activity has been odd. There is nothing wrong with saying that.

    The positives far outwiegh that one negative and you will always have negatives because football managers are humans just like the rest of us.

    I don't recall anyone saying he isn't good enough. Who exactly are you referring to?

    Breath:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    This is a post intent on winding people up.

    A keane2097 post? Never! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Sky Sports News just said they are investigating some big name transfers at Manchester United.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    The only manager currently in the game a step up from Van Gaal is Mourinho.

    Pep, Ancelotti, Klopp like Van Gaal all have question marks about them. Van Gaal isn't flawless but for the moment I am just glad we have him and not Moyes or Giggs as it could have been.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    A keane2097 post? Never! :D

    How dare you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Sky Sports News just said they are investigating some big name transfers at Manchester United.

    As in why we paid €7M for Bebe or €27M for Fellani???

    Jim White got his Sherlock Holmes hat on and hearing about a big unveiling before kick off on Saturday not realising it’s a Nike sponsored Rory McIlroy show?

    We live in hope young pipe – we live in hope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    I want woodward replaced, not LVG.

    My personal belief is that LVG has asked for a number of players - Hummels, Vermaelen, Vidal, Cuadrado, Di Maria, likely some others too like Blind, and that Woodward has failed to sign any of them. I don't actually believe LVG is till trying to decide if we need signings, i think much of what he has said in this regard has simply been lying to the media, keeping his opinions to himself and United.

    Sweet Jesus.

    The manager who openly criticised:
    - A £27m signings fitness
    - The training ground
    - The commercial side of United
    - The pre-season tour plans

    Is lying to protect Woodward? Righteo so.
    FutureGuy wrote: »
    For me, we had 5 critical pieces of business to attend to before the start if the new season.

    1) Bring in a top manager
    2) Pick the confidence of the players off the floor
    3) Sign a first team LB
    4) Sign a first team CM
    5) Sign an experienced CB

    We have ticked off the first 4 very quickly. We are certainly looking at CBs and we are certainly in for Vidal based on actual quotes from the player and Juve staff.

    It's funny, last year we were all hoping that United would just shut up and do the transfers in the quiet. We have that at the moment but people are now upset that there is no news. We can't have it both ways.

    If we sign no one else until Christmas, then so be it. I think we have the players, the manager and the mentality to be challenging at Christmas when we could strengthen significantly. Well be winning a few games 3-2 but sure at least it'll be exciting :-D

    I'm actually delighted that Van Gaal is taking his sweet time. I'm be more annoyed if he came in and splurged 100m on players when someone in the squad could flourish under him.

    Quoting this, just to balance out the absolute non-sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Sky Sports News just said they are investigating some big name transfers at Manchester United.

    They won't find anything.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    This places goes around in circles.

    Im sure some arguements just get copied and pasted from 3 days ago.

    Ye must be awful boring people bleating on about the same thing again and again and again.


    Its a top tier football club/business. We have no idea what happens there no more than what happens in an office in a tesco.


    We get it, we need signings. Bitching about it isnt going to change it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    I want woodward replaced, not LVG.

    My personal belief is that LVG has asked for a number of players - Hummels, Vermaelen, Vidal, Cuadrado, Di Maria, likely some others too like Blind, and that Woodward has failed to sign any of them. I don't actually believe LVG is till trying to decide if we need signings, i think much of what he has said in this regard has simply been lying to the media, keeping his opinions to himself and United.

    You want Woodward, the CEO of a multi million pound corporation, replaced based on a load of stuff you made up in your head?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    I want woodward replaced, not LVG.

    My personal belief is that LVG has asked for a number of players - Hummels, Vermaelen, Vidal, Cuadrado, Di Maria, likely some others too like Blind, and that Woodward has failed to sign any of them. I don't actually believe LVG is till trying to decide if we need signings, i think much of what he has said in this regard has simply been lying to the media, keeping his opinions to himself and United.

    20 days left in the transfer window.....

    Nothing indicating that something wont happen before then. I'd imagine Woodward has learned lessons from last year.

    A hunt looks on for a CB anyway. With no definitive information it's pointless speculating, we can say what we think in terms of the squad, but it might be totally of centre with LVG's thinking. I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks he can mount a title challenge with the squad, and central midfielders he has. We are completely forgetting the utter arrogance of this man when it comes to moulding and developing players.

    Of course the possability might arrive that we reach deadline day passing with no new signings, and I'd say the best place to make "accurate" comment on that decision would be November/December and see how we lie.

    Another entirely equal opportunity is that some new signings do arrive in the next 20 days. I'd be happier with the club focusing on key, well thought of purchases, rather then sporadically buying on a whim to "appease" some restless fans. Who when we accept it, have **** all clue about football at that level in fariness, as much as we don't like to admit it.

    Wouldn't be suprised if a utility player, or ovious improvement/bargain arrives, and then LVG takes the first half of the season to assess. He might feel what he has can achieve, but if it doesn't, no problem, make singings in January. We arn't being phased by any players being cup tied, and there will be benefit of seeing how somoene has started the season.

    Looking at Strootman here specifically.

    We've spent circa £30 on a LB that is "one for the future" but in reality needs to hit the ground running, now.

    We spent another circa £30m on a Central Midfielder where questions will linger for a good while, despite the impressive start. But hardly a heavy hitter of European football.

    I sincerely doubt money, or penny pinching will be an issue this summer, as opposed to last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭Your Airbag


    I want woodward replaced, not LVG.

    My personal belief is that LVG has asked for a number of players - Hummels, Vermaelen, Vidal, Cuadrado, Di Maria, likely some others too like Blind, and that Woodward has failed to sign any of them. I don't actually believe LVG is till trying to decide if we need signings, i think much of what he has said in this regard has simply been lying to the media, keeping his opinions to himself and United.


    Thats the key phrase in your post. Belief could be swapped for opinion, grudge etc etc

    Now we have a situation where Woodward can't even bid for Hummels, Vermaelen, Vidal, Cuadrado, Di Maria????

    Putting in a bid is the easy part, he done that last summer and the press reported it. If those players were bid for we would have heard about it. No bids means LVG hasn't asked for them, yet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    ericzeking wrote: »
    You want Woodward, the CEO of a multi million pound corporation, replaced based on a load of stuff you made up in your head?

    Yes, this has been the woodward out sides arguement for the last 3 weeks.


    Its ridiculous and I believe they look immature.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Lads, with the official stream, does anyone know if it works on iPads and thus also on Airplay?

    Would love to get it on my TV tonight rather than my laptop. Anyone use an AppleTV with the other games?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    This places goes around in circles.

    Im sure some arguements just get copied and pasted from 3 days ago.

    Ye must be awful boring people bleating on about the same thing again and again and again.


    Its a top tier football club/business. We have no idea what happens there no more than what happens in an office in a tesco.


    We get it, we need signings. Bitching about it isnt going to change it.

    This is just typical fan talk in fairness, happens in every sport, where we discuss and debate, and at times row furiously over points that in reality we have absolutely no comprehension or understanding off.

    We've had weeks of "Vidal" talk, and yet we have absolutely no indication if the club have had any genuine interest, at all, nor do we have any indication that we are even looking for a CM.

    The only confirmation we have that is definitive, is that some players are being told they can leave as they are not required, and that we are looking for a new CB.

    But this isn't some stunning new revelation, and part of the joys of being a fan. We all have our opinions and thoughts on how this should work or that should work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    This places goes around in circles.

    Im sure some arguements just get copied and pasted from 3 days ago.

    Ye must be awful boring people bleating on about the same thing again and again and again.


    Its a top tier football club/business. We have no idea what happens there no more than what happens in an office in a tesco.


    We get it, we need signings. Bitching about it isnt going to change it.

    Its kinda the point of the thread though – transfer “rumours” – if we actually had a bug in Woodwards office it would be entitled “probable transfer transactions” but I hear your point – I’m extermely bored BTW – have nothing to do in work and at least posting on here gives the impression I’m doing something.

    I actually dread the first week in September when the window is closed, the moaning is done and I need to find sometihng else to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭twam2008


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Lads, with the official stream, does anyone know if it works on iPads and thus also on Airplay?

    Would love to get it on my TV tonight rather than my laptop. Anyone use an AppleTV with the other games?

    Yeah, I'm using an older macbook air though that doesn't have airplay, so I use a an app called air parrot instead, that works fine for me and as far as I'm aware it's pretty much an airplay clone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,060 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Lads, with the official stream, does anyone know if it works on iPads and thus also on Airplay?

    Would love to get it on my TV tonight rather than my laptop. Anyone use an AppleTV with the other games?

    Yep it does. Used it that way for the games in the States.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Coat22 wrote: »
    Its kinda the point of the thread though – transfer “rumours” – if we actually had a bug in Woodwards office it would be entitled “probable transfer transactions” but I hear your point – I’m extermely bored BTW – have nothing to do in work and at least posting on here gives the impression I’m doing something.

    I actually dread the first week in September when the window is closed, the moaning is done and I need to find sometihng else to do.

    Ya I know its the point of the thread and discussing them is fine but some posters are just getting militant about everything and making this place painful with phrases like

    ''As I have said before''

    ''I ve already covered this point but ill say it again while you bleach out your eyes''


    Rumours are good but you need a dose of realism with them as well, do people think we arent trying to get players. its annoying and I know I can stay out and not read the thread for a few days or hours but then its even worse as you skim through and need to check if you have moved on to the next page.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Coat22 wrote: »
    Its kinda the point of the thread though – transfer “rumours” – if we actually had a bug in Woodwards office it would be entitled “probable transfer transactions” but I hear your point – I’m extermely bored BTW – have nothing to do in work and at least posting on here gives the impression I’m doing something.

    I actually dread the first week in September when the window is closed, the moaning is done and I need to find sometihng else to do.

    Don't worry there'll still be plenty of moaning come September :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Crimson King


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Lads, with the official stream, does anyone know if it works on iPads and thus also on Airplay?

    Would love to get it on my TV tonight rather than my laptop. Anyone use an AppleTV with the other games?

    I know Sky disabled Airplay last season for iPads, the Sky Go app does not work unless you buy a third party app.

    If you have a PC, laptop or Macbook you could stream it on there and use an App called 'Air Parrot' which works with Apple TV. All depends on what devices you are using etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    I get a great kick out of the thread...I had a read there last night before going to bed....my girlfriend asked me what I was laughing at, I told her that lads were going all mental about Uniteds lack of transfers....fellas surely park all this stuff when they go back to reality??

    Do lads go around the place on a daily basis banging doors and scowling at people in a rage because of Ed Woodward??!!!!!!

    Surely not? :cool:


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