Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Larry Wildman · 11-08-2014 08:59PM

http://www.prideofalleurope.com/2014/08/the-week-at-united-final-defeat-has-rodgers-talking-bobbins-while-united-fans-keep-watching-this-space/

An interesting read...

J. Marston · 11-08-2014 09:02PM

I was negative before it was cool.

DM_7 · 11-08-2014 09:03PM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

That attitude would have seen Ferguson shipped out in 1989.

Teams that haven't won the title or regularly challenge in 20 plus years would need more patience.

As it stands its one season without a league title so expectations are naturally higher at Manchester United now that they were in 89.

Larry Wildman · 11-08-2014 09:04PM

J. Marston wrote: »

I was negative before it was cool.

The problem is the squad - It's weaker than it was at the end of the season.

We need at least three players and the season starts in a little over 100 hours.

Seriously? FFS...

Oregano_State · 11-08-2014 09:07PM

I'm confident going into the season, despite being on the same page as most people as regards prospective signings. I believe we will get a CB in, after that who knows.

The reason's I'm hopeful are threefold:

1. I'm an optimist.
2. We have LVG, and LVG has a plan.
3. The performances in pre-season were that of a team that gave a sh1t, and that counts for quite a bit.

Also, on Young: he has always been a better player than what we've generally seen from him in a United shirt, I would not be at all surprised if he continued his good form in the season proper.

Larry Wildman · 11-08-2014 09:10PM

It appears that we did not bid for Cesc Fabregas. It appears that Khedira is available and we're not interested. It appears that we didn't pursue Toni Kroos.

What the f..k is going on?

DM_7 · 11-08-2014 09:11PM

“I have told the club I won’t do anything until I know the players here…………. I want to give all players the chance to show themselves under my guidance.”

Van Gall, These words were quoted in a piece on redmancunian today, not sure exactly where they are from. We might not like it but nif accurate it would explain only two signings. We are just going to have to deal with it and see what happens when football actually starts.

http://redmancunian.com/2014/08/11/louis-van-gaal-ed-woodward-lack-transfer-activity/

MagicIRL · 11-08-2014 09:11PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

It appears that we did not bid for Cesc Fabregas. It appears that Khedira is available and we're not interested. It appears that we didn't pursue Toni Kroos.

What the f..k is going on?

Surely you're calm - We're signing Vidal, right?

Larry Wildman · 11-08-2014 09:13PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Surely you're calm - We're signing Vidal, right?

We need more than Vidal.

Plus, have lessons not been learned vis a vis pursuing one transfer target?

What if there's a hitch (e.g. Vidal fails his medical because of his knee)?

LostBoy101 · 11-08-2014 09:15PM

I feel we are going to get a comfortable win tomorrow against Valencia and demolish Swansea.

DM_7 · 11-08-2014 09:18PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

We need more than Vidal.

Plus, have lessons not been learned vis a vis pursuing one transfer target?

What if there's a hitch (e.g. Vidal fails his medical because of his knee)?

I doubt the club is only looking at one target.

MagicMarker · 11-08-2014 09:18PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

But when I see posters thinking Young is just gonna turn messi esq it fills me with little dread.

Wtf? Has Homer hacked your account or something?

The_Kew_Tour · 11-08-2014 09:21PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Wtf? Has Homer hacked your account or something?

the kew is starting to get little on edge.

Larry Wildman · 11-08-2014 09:22PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

I doubt the club is only looking at one target.

I accept that a transfer can be drawn out.

But all of our transfers?

The season starts in a few days and we still have a load of business to do.

There is incompetence at play - Could be Woodward's, could be Van Gaal's.

This summer has been a joke - Signings this week are far too late.

TheTownie · 11-08-2014 09:22PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

“I have told the club I won’t do anything until I know the players here…………. I want to give all players the chance to show themselves under my guidance.”

Van Gall, These words were quoted in a piece on redmancunian today, not sure exactly where they are from. We might not like it but nif accurate it would explain only two signings. We are just going to have to deal with it and see what happens when football actually starts.

http://redmancunian.com/2014/08/11/louis-van-gaal-ed-woodward-lack-transfer-activity/

They're from his pre-match press conference against LA Galaxy.

DM_7 · 11-08-2014 09:25PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

But when I see posters thinking Young is just gonna turn messi esq it fills me with little dread.

Maybe I will be wrong. I hope so.

I think most people were happy Young looks like he has the skills or could be a good back up for the wing back positions. Thats about it, back up.

Was anyone really suggesting he would be a key player (genuine queation, I may have missed it)

Mitch Connor · 11-08-2014 09:25PM

Whether it's Woodward or LVG to blame, it is an absolute disgrace to get this far into the window with the squad in this state. Problems are obvious and the lack of action to fix them is painful to see.

Based on the current squad, we won't make top 4 and we will suffer greatly long term as a result of that. We can't afford to miss top 4 this season but the club continues to gamble it's future ridiculously.

I had been enthusiastic regarding LVG, but he is looking as blind as fergie and moyes, or Woodward doesn't give a sh1t about the playing side.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-08-2014 09:28PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

I think most people were happy Young looks like he has the skills or could be a good back up for the wing back positions. Thats about it, back up.

Was anyone really suggesting he would be a key player (genuine queation, I may have missed it)

my post was bit ott tbf on Young, but at same time im worried that we are going to rely on players who have more questions then answered in past.

not just Young either.

Larry Wildman · 11-08-2014 09:29PM

Moyes was clearly out of his depth but surely he and/or his coaches had dossiers that could have been shared with Van Gaal (e.g. Cleverley is crap, etc)?

I accept that a man of Van Gaal's calibre may want to make up his own mind but with the World Cup tying him up until a few weeks ago, surely some form of compromise could have been reached?

twam2008 · 11-08-2014 09:29PM

The upcoming Adidas deal demands a certain amount of achievement, the money brought in from it will decrease depending on our champions league involvement, they'd be crazy to penny pinch with players. I am desperately hoping that a lot of behind the scenes, top secret negotiations are happening, if not, God help us all.

Ed The Equalizer · 11-08-2014 09:31PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

ive not seen one person on here panicking all summer.

Larry Wildman wrote: »

We need at least three players and the season starts in a little over 100 hours.

Seriously? FFS...

Larry Wildman wrote: »

What the f..k is going on?

It's happening

Larry Wildman · 11-08-2014 09:31PM

If we don't make signings, Woodward must go.

And by go, I mean be replaced on the transfer side of things but remain on the commercial side of things.

UnitedIrishman · 11-08-2014 09:31PM

There's times when this should really just be called the Manchester United Bitching/Whinging/Moaning Thread.

DM_7 · 11-08-2014 09:32PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

This summer has been a joke - Signings this week are far too late.

I think its best I don't get into a drawn out conversation with you on this topic.

I am still confused on how you said the other night that we should wait and see how the window turns out but yet its a joke of a summer, poor poor summer (said previously), a disgrace (said previously) and signings are too late this week.

I know not mutually exclusive etc, but its best I stay away from discussing as I think the more disappointing opinion put forward is how you really feel and I don't agree nor am I going to agree at this point. I have no interest in trying to change your mind.

Talib Fiasco · 11-08-2014 09:32PM

Quick question lads and apologies for invading but how will ye feel about the season and yer chances if ye do not sign anyone else? I think January's window will be a major one for ye but yeah the present.... If ye have to make do with the current players ye have what would be a realistic achievement for ye?

Larry Wildman · 11-08-2014 09:33PM

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

There's times when this should really just be called the Manchester United Bitching/Whinging/Moaning Thread.

There are just over 100 hours of the summer left and our squad is weaker than the one that ended last season.

We're right to moan.

It's a disgrace.

Ed The Equalizer · 11-08-2014 09:34PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Quick question lads and apologies for invading but how will ye feel about the season and yer chances if ye do not sign anyone else? I think January's window will be a major one for ye but yeah the present.... If ye have to make do with the current players ye have what would be a realistic achievement for ye?

A title challenge - we're in better shape than Liverpool were last year

Headshot · 11-08-2014 09:35PM

Pity I didnt take that bet for a 100 euro

Mitch Connor · 11-08-2014 09:36PM

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

There's times when this should really just be called the Manchester United Bitching/Whinging/Moaning Thread.

Or the man united pragmatic realistic non biased non rose tinted glasses non head in the sand thread.

Being pissed off with the utter inaction of united is completely reasonable. The season starts in 5 days and we have 3 senior centre backs to cover 3 positions, one left back, one right back and arguably between no and two reliable centre mids.

There is no way that isn't a disaster. There is no way that isn't a disgrace.

Saucy McKetchup · 11-08-2014 09:36PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

If we don't make signings, Woodward must go.

And by go, I mean be replaced on the transfer side of things but remain on the commercial side of things.

Are we not signing Vidal now?:pac:

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

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