Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Here we go.... the betting talk again.

Nuts102 wrote: »

Anybody know what the story is with getting a ferry package over to a game. Got a birthday present for the Chelsea game bus, ferry, hotel and match tickets. Leaving home at half 3 so i presume the ferry from Dublin leaves about 7. I never got the ferry over before does anybody know how long it takes to get to Manchester. I am looking at buying two tickets to go to the Liverpool game at 3pm but don't want to buy tickets if encase i wouldn't make it on time.

Also can anybody clarify if you need a passport going on the ferry. My passport is out of date and want to make sure i need it for the ferry before i renew it.

I never get asked on the way over, but always on the way back home.

Twitter strikes again!

beakerjoe wrote: »

Like it was 2 weeks ago? :pac:

I think, and I might be wrong, but:

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I think, and I might be wrong, but:

I dunno, its Bangkok ... I assume hes always 100 percent serious unless he has a :pac: in his message....

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Vidal's agent is meeting Van Gaal today apparently.

The "betting discussion" has been put to bed alright. When bookies see an suspicious increase in volume on a specialised market, they suspend betting. Suspicious increases in volume usually mean that someone knows something. In other words, betting being suspended DOES mean something. Just because a deal does / doesn't happen, it doesn't mean that the betting patterns are irrelevant. Citing Sneijder etc is pointless unless you can demonstate that we weren't in for him at all. Admittedly, a small amount of money can change a market like this, but if betting has been suspended I'd like to think that it's because some guy in a private airport saw something and stuck £200 on in his local William Hill.

Is he yeah... :rolleyes:

kryogen wrote: »

When did Louis say that on record? Haven't seen it.

Verm was bid on so Van Gaal certainly thought he was up to our standards

“Van Gaal said Keane and fellow defender Tyler Blackett would grow better with experience.
“You saw them play today and they can do the job but not for a lot of matches – they can do it for one match.
“Maybe when you give them more matches, their experience shall increase.
“It’s the same for Tyler – he can also play at this level but can he play match after match? That is the question and I cannot answer that at the moment
“But today the penalty was not so smart. He (Keane) has to learn from these errors..””
He’s also on record as saying we need more defenders – so one would assume this is the priority for him.
In terms of Vermaelen I was talking about the opinions on this board – most seemed to think he was no better than what we had or that if he wasn’t good enough for Arsenal he wasn’t good enough for United. He’s good enough for Barcelona seemingly but don’t think Wenger would have let it happen anyway so moot point I guess.

Not sure if anyone read...but Vermaelen has broken down in his first training session with Barca. Right hamstring problem.

Was carrying a little niggly injury and obviously wanted to train with his new team. Out for a few weeks.

Bullet firmly dodged.

TheDoc wrote: »

Not sure if anyone read...but Vermaelen has broken down in his first training session with Barca. Right hamstring problem.

Was carrying a little niggly injury and obviously wanted to train with his new team. Out for a few weeks.

Bullet firmly dodged.

Lets hope lady luck continues to shine on us. Roll on Saturday

It really annoys me that we are less than a week before the premiership starts with arguably a weaker squad than this time last year.

Admittedly we've a better manager in place though, and with a relatively "easy" start to the campaign we should be ok, i hope then we'll see at least 3 more additions to the squad before the transfer window closes!

Vermaelens injury is something he picked up at the world cup.

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/detail/article/vermaelen-to-do-physiotherapy

Coat22 wrote: »

“Van Gaal said Keane and fellow defender Tyler Blackett would grow better with experience.
“You saw them play today and they can do the job but not for a lot of matches – they can do it for one match.
“Maybe when you give them more matches, their experience shall increase.
“It’s the same for Tyler – he can also play at this level but can he play match after match? That is the question and I cannot answer that at the moment
“But today the penalty was not so smart. He (Keane) has to learn from these errors..””
He’s also on record as saying we need more defenders – so one would assume this is the priority for him.
In terms of Vermaelen I was talking about the opinions on this board – most seemed to think he was no better than what we had or that if he wasn’t good enough for Arsenal he wasn’t good enough for United. He’s good enough for Barcelona seemingly but don’t think Wenger would have let it happen anyway so moot point I guess.

LVG has said alot of things so far - we need defenders and wingers being two of them, along of course with the broken squad thing and too many number 10's.

i guess the plan is for now to start the season with what we have and hopefully get players in before end of the month - risky, but it should be ok for now assuming we actually get these players.

the real worry though is that we failed with Vermaelen and Hummels and there is very little talk of anybody else being linked in terms of center halves. despite what people on here say, its very very rare for us to sign somebody without the press having it well in advance. Hernandez and Smalling are two of the only recent examples and perhaps buttner - everybody else was well documented in the papers so i would be concerned about our CB options at the moment from this respect though we appear to be working on other things outside of CB.

So this has gone up in Manchester. (Piccadilly area of the city centre to be exact)

StarshipPooper wrote: »

It's not really that bonkers, just longer term planning than some fans seem capable of. LvG has said he prefers a 433 with wingers a few times and it's rare a player of DiMaria's class becomes available. Yeah other areas are a priority right now but if we turn up our noses at him there's no guarantee we get the players we need anyway and then we have to hope another world class winger becomes available down the line.

Starting to come around to this way of thinking myself – we don’t need Di Maria as a priority but he would streghten the team and is available so lets get him if we can (seriously doubt we can).
I do hope he’s not being bought as a smokescreen to failing elsewhere. 2 CBs have got to be bought in the next 21 days – if we got these and Di Maria then we’d look good to challenge for 4th.

twam2008 wrote: »

I think that is why most people here didn't want Vermaelen, it was the injury risk as opposed to the players quality. Bullet well and truly dodged.

Vidic was also crocked for the last couple of seasons but most would still have had him this year. Varmaelen would definitely have been worth the risk IMO. Much better risk than heading into the season, playing 3 at the back and having 3 players to play there.