Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Taok wrote: »

You should join kryogen in the not panicking camp, it's a far more enjoyable way to support United!

ive not seen one person on here panicking all summer. ive seen plenty of people discuss the current squad and say its not good enough to mount a league title push but perhaps get 4th (pretty much accepted by 90% of posters on here).

and i dont think posting about our players on an internet forum should be used in anyway shape or form when it comes to determining your support levels for the club.

The fee's for Young and Valencia were spot on tbf at least at the time.

There was a time where Valencia looked like a bargain at £16M.

kryogen wrote: »

I have seen some strange comments floating about like, "a week to go and nothing has happened"

For anyone who has missed the summers goings on and is under the impression the club has been totally dormant

Exactly. I've seen lots of "How can UTD let this happen again, we are going into another season without the proper tansfers bing made" and "why isn't Woody doing more" "Why isn't he bidding for x,y & z"

Well Woody & the people at UTD have been doing excatly the right thing. What Woodward did with Moyes is happening under LVG. He is letting the manager examine the squad and define the players he wants and this is the correct thing to do.

Moyes came in and made an early bid for Baines and Fellaini. Its a no brainer that we needed a LB and some more bodies in MF. After that he was assessing the squad most of the transfer window.

LVG has done the same, Shaw and Herrera were grenn lit by him as they were obvious signings the squad needed, even more so with Evra wanting out and Buttner plus Ando going. He said he'd then spend three weeks evaluating the squad before he decided whether we needed anyone or not and he's done exactly that. Vermalen was attempted after the three weeks ended but Wegner didn't want him staying in the EPL. There will be more attempts by LVG before the end of the window.

The club and Woody are doing exactly the right thing and letting LVG assess and decided what the squad needs. Do people want a Chelsea type situation with players being forced onto the manager? No, we are operating correctly.

Once LVG indicates he wants a player, UTD will pursue him.

And as for that addidas deal, even as enthusiastic as you were Kryogen I don't think you made a big enough deal about it.

Its quite simply the best deal in sports history and the universe

• Adidas pay Madrird 50m a year, we get 75m
• thats 750m over 10yrs or $1.2 billion if you prefer
• Forbes have Liverpool currently valued at £456m. Utds kit deal alone is worth £750m

So annually we have

£75m - Adidas kit manufacturer
£53m - Chevrolet kit sponsor
£20m - AON training kit sponsor
£148m a year from kits alone.
Sir Ed Woodward?








and some people still doubt him on here.

Jones and Valencia were bought at the going rate at the time.Also Utd had just sold their right winger for 75 million so Wigan were hardly going to let Valencia go for a small fee. Valencia had a very good first season and looked like he would develop into a 30 m plus player. Young had a year left on his contract so should have gone for much less. I think Liverpool were in the running which possibly pushed up the price. If Valencia repeated the form of his first season he would be fantastic as a wing back.

IT'S ALWAYS NEXT FRIDAY.

lordgoat wrote: »

Exactly, spend it all on high quality, not over spending on potential, we need first team players this window.

Chelsea & City are the only clubs who can really afford to always go for the 40m signing as opposed to the potential player. Any other club would soon be in financial trouble with that policy as they don't have billionaire owners.

There is no guarantee that the big money signing will be a success. If they flop, you are left with the same problems in the team but with a huge financial loss as well. Torres, Shevchenko, Denilson, Veron...the list goes on and on.

Clubs try to limit the risk by buying a number of relatively cheaper players with potential in the hope that they turn into 40m+ players. The only way of determining if you over spent on a player is with hindsight so the signings homer brought up are not going to look as good now if they are not a huge success. Nobody seems to brings up Rooney or Ronaldo in this discussion to show that this transfer policy works both ways.

py2006 wrote: »

So we have gone from talk of signing 5 or 6 players at the start of the summer to only getting 2 and the manager saying he is happy with the squad.

Does this mean players (yet again) unwilling to sign for Utd? Any top player at the top of his game at a top club will not be attracted to a side who won't be in Europe this season and the strong possibility of not qualifying for the following season.

Unless there is another 2 or 3 signings, big signings, I am starting to get a little concerned. We saw decent performances in the pre season games from average players (Young) but that is because they were playing for their future.

Highly doubt LVG is happy with the squad when he states he was looking for defender's also it is quite obvious we are pursing Vidal but a few hold ups around d his knee which is understandable.

Also we have rarely gone for the top tier of players in any transfer window, we have always operated at the 2nd tier so those reports of marquee players refusing to join us are wide of the mark imo.