Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

MagicIRL · 06-08-2014 03:58PM

weisses wrote: »

De Jong Going to United .... Hope so

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2014/08/06/5013879/manchester-united-make-8m-move-for-de-jong?ICID=HP_HN_1

Goal understands.

Goal understands.

Goal understands.

Goal understands.

weisses · 06-08-2014 04:00PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Goal understands.

Goal understands.

Goal understands.

Goal understands.

But do you ?

Coat22 · 06-08-2014 04:05PM

weisses wrote: »

De Jong Going to United ?.... Hope so

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2014/08/06/5013879/manchester-united-make-8m-move-for-de-jong?ICID=HP_HN_1

Would do for now

Pro. F · 06-08-2014 04:05PM

TheDoc wrote: »

That boy has a lot to learn about speaking publicly. Seems to throw petrol to the flame every time he speaks.

He's actually been pretty pathetic again this
pre-season, I'm not sure what games people were watching saying he was really impressive with Fletcher.

He's really in last chance saloon

I wouldn't say he has been particularly pathetic or really impressive on the tour. He's had some poor play, just like Fletcher and to a far lesser extent Hererra, and he's had some good play. Nothing to get worked up about either way for pre-season games.

Antibac · 06-08-2014 04:07PM

Coat22 wrote: »

Would do for now

Would be a good option until Strootman(if we are in for him)is fit and then a good squad option for the next few years

Pro. F · 06-08-2014 04:08PM

Do you yearn for transfer news even when there's nothing happening?
Are you worried about the season ahead for your team?
Goal is here for you. Goal understands.

weisses · 06-08-2014 04:15PM

Article from June

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nigel-de-jong-would-perfect-7308162

Can fully understand LvG wants a player like de Jong when you look at how United played the last couple of matches

Adamocovic · 06-08-2014 04:23PM

Wow long day, had a glance and doesn't seem I missed much today, just more transfer speculation.

Hopefully we hear what the plan is before the end of the week, in terms to which players are leaving. Surely he will bring in another CB and I imagine it might depend on who goes to what other position he will bring someone in to.

Also Phil Neville joining MoTD. Does this mean he won't be involved with United at all next season? Remember VG said he would find a place for him and Scholes?

Tippex · 06-08-2014 04:27PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Wow long day, had a glance and doesn't seem I missed much today, just more transfer speculation.

Hopefully we hear what the plan is before the end of the week, in terms to which players are leaving. Surely he will bring in another CB and I imagine it might depend on who goes to what other position he will bring someone in to.

Also Phil Neville joining MoTD. Does this mean he won't be involved with United at all next season? Remember VG said he would find a place for him and Scholes?

He already confirmed today on twitter that he is no longer involved

Pro. F · 06-08-2014 04:27PM

weisses wrote: »

Article from June

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nigel-de-jong-would-perfect-7308162

Can fully understand LvG wants a player like de Jong when you look at how United played the last couple of matches

The lack of protection for the three centre-backs is a big problem at the moment all right. I would much rather the coaching staff fixed the team shape for when they're defending rather than resort to playing a DCM.

At the moment it is far too common a sight to see all five defenders sitting back in a line when defending and the two CMs being swamped and dragged around the place. Players from the back 5 are supposed to be stepping up to fill the gaps in midfield, but there is an awful lot of hesitancy in the defending at the moment.

It could just be down to it still being a new system and the defence not being settled yet. Hopefully that's what it is. If LVG buys a DCM but keeps the back line defending the same way then I wouldn't be filled with confidence.

TheDoc · 06-08-2014 04:29PM

Pro. F wrote: »

The lack of protection for the three centre-backs is a big problem at the moment all right. I would much rather the coaching staff fixed the team shape for when they're defending rather than resort to playing a DCM.

At the moment it is far too common a sight to see all five defenders sitting back in a line when defending and the two CMs being swamped and dragged around the place. Players from the back 5 are supposed to be stepping up to fill the gaps in midfield, but there is an awful lot of hesitancy in the defending at the moment.

It could just be down to it still being a new system and the defence not being settled yet. Hopefully that's what it is. If LVG buys a DCM but keeps the back line defending the same way then I wouldn't be filled with confidence.

Can only imagine that is the case. I can't see us letting the midfield get constantly over run, and just sitting on the 18 yard line hopnig for the best with a bank of five.

Adamocovic · 06-08-2014 04:30PM

Tippex wrote: »

He already confirmed today on twitter that he is no longer involved

Just saw there! I think no one at this stage was wondering if he was going to be involved in coaching the team but from what VG said it sounded like he would have some role with the club.

Like a media role or with the youths. Who knows maybe he was even offered something but decided to turn it down and take the MoTD gig.

TheDoc · 06-08-2014 04:32PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Just saw there! I think no one at this stage was wondering if he was going to be involved in coaching the team but from what VG said it sounded like he would have some role with the club.

Like a media role or with the youths. Who knows maybe he was even offered something but decided to turn it down and take the MoTD gig.

Probably store manager of the superstore. Sure what does six league titles mean anyway

Adamcp898 · 06-08-2014 04:56PM

TheDoc wrote: »

That boy has a lot to learn about speaking publicly. Seems to throw petrol to the flame every time he speaks.

He's actually been pretty pathetic again this
pre-season, I'm not sure what games people were watching saying he was really impressive with Fletcher.

He's really in last chance saloon

That and, even if you did completely believe it, saying stuff that amounts to "Sure I don't need to change, its everyone else who does" isn't exactly indicative of the best attitude or mentality and I doubt anyone is viewing it as positive as it mustve sounded in Tom's mind.

v3ttel · 06-08-2014 04:58PM

TheDoc wrote: »

SOOO many people saying Scholes is a MUST have and keeper. For all anyone knows Scholes is rubbish when it comes to coaching, and can't convey a point.

I completely agree with your post. On the small part I've quoted above, I think it's because every time Scholes has sat down and talked, be it on TV, in an interview or on that blog, he has been insightful, honest and absolutely spot on. His knowledge of the game is second to none.

One thing that sticks out in my mind, before the City game last season, when he seen the team lineup, he seemed like he was an upset fan about how things were going. It was nice to see how much he cared and how he hated seeing players out of their best positions.

"I look at the lineup, with Mata and Welbeck out wide and I think 'blunt'"

bucketybuck · 06-08-2014 05:48PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I wouldn't say he has been particularly pathetic or really impressive on the tour. He's had some poor play, just like Fletcher and to a far lesser extent Hererra, and he's had some good play. Nothing to get worked up about either way for pre-season games.

But thats the Tom Cleverley story in a nutshell isn't it.

He had all the chances in the world last season and never particularly impressed, some poor play and some rare good play.

Here we are in pre-season with the new manager, now is the time to make an impression before LVG gets the checkbook out and what do we get from TC? Nothing particularly pathetic, nothing really impressive.

Thats him, thats all we are ever going to get from him, he is bog standard average and never will be anything more.

steoin · 06-08-2014 05:49PM

Just throwing an idea out there, how would people feel about using a 'Do no link' link for all transfer speculation links?

http://www.donotlink.com/

Vic Vinegar · 06-08-2014 05:53PM

steoin wrote: »

Just throwing an idea out there, how would people feel about using a 'Do no link' link for all transfer speculation links?

http://www.donotlink.com/

Pour quoi?

dahat · 06-08-2014 06:11PM

@MirrorDarren: Tottenham have had an offer accepted for PSV winger Memphis Depay. Nacer Chadli set to go the other way. More @mirrorfootball

Thought we might have shown some interest on him as he is well regarded. Good move for the player though.

Lord TSC · 06-08-2014 06:40PM

RE: Cleverly.

I get the feeling he is one of those players LVG has said he won't push out the door if they want want to leave, and hat he'll be happy enough. Wing 3rd, 4th or 5th choice.

If I were him, I would be wondering about trying to get a fresh start somewhere though...

How Soon Is Now · 06-08-2014 06:41PM

dahat wrote: »

@MirrorDarren: Tottenham have had an offer accepted for PSV winger Memphis Depay. Nacer Chadli set to go the other way. More @mirrorfootball

Thought we might have shown some interest on him as he is well regarded. Good move for the player though.

We could of killed two birds with one stone and got rid of Nani!!!

irishfeen · 06-08-2014 06:42PM

Totally off topic lads but I was re-watching Colm Murray's The Inside Track documentary ( http://vimeo.com/65896324 ) last night where he gave an insight into his battle with Motor Neurone Disease, the man knew he was going to die a horrible death but kept battling to the very end to try come up with a cure - absolute legend of a man.

I wonder could we donate the charity money from the United Fantasy Football tournament to The Irish Motor Neurone Disease Association?

hogandrew · 06-08-2014 06:47PM

What was it that van gaal called De jong during the world cup?

kryogen · 06-08-2014 06:50PM

hogandrew wrote: »

What was it that van gaal called De jong during the world cup?

Nigel

hogandrew · 06-08-2014 06:55PM

kryogen wrote: »

Nigel

Ha ye most likely. Something like his leader of .........

dahat · 06-08-2014 07:10PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

We could of killed two birds with one stone and got rid of Nani!!!

Like Fellaini his stock is pretty low right now, will be hard to shift for decent money imo.

Larry Wildman · 06-08-2014 07:15PM

dahat wrote: »

Like Fellaini his stock is pretty low right now, will be hard to shift for decent money imo.

If that £18m from Napoli for Fellaini is on the level, one of the Glazers should drive him to Naples themselves.

Jimmy Iovine · 06-08-2014 07:17PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Totally off topic lads but I was re-watching Colm Murray's The Inside Track documentary ( http://vimeo.com/65896324 ) last night where he gave an insight into his battle with Motor Neurone Disease, the man knew he was going to die a horrible death but kept battling to the very end to try come up with a cure - absolute legend of a man.

I wonder could we donate the charity money from the United Fantasy Football tournament to The Irish Motor Neurone Disease Association?

What a brilliant idea. My girlfriend's mum has recently been diagnosed with MND. I can't begin to think of the effect it's going to have on her entire family.

Anything and everything helps the cause.

Lord TSC · 06-08-2014 07:22PM

Sky understands Vermalean wants to stay in England and is his happy to choose us over Bacca.

irishfeen · 06-08-2014 07:23PM

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

What a brilliant idea. My girlfriend's mum has recently been diagnosed with MND. I can't begin to think of the effect it's going to have on her entire family.

Anything and everything helps the cause.

Absolutely horrible horrible disease - I'm all for giving it to them, we'll see what yermandan who's running it thinks.

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