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Culchies and "the cure"

  • 04-08-2014 08:13PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭


    I've jus t got off the phone to my aunt from Dublin who lives in deepest darkest Cavan. She was telling me she burned her hand in work on Friday. Nothing that would require hospital, just some savlon and a small bandage.

    One of the girls she works with suggested that she should go up town to see some old woman who has "the cure". My aunt asked "what is the cure?".
    It was explained to her that this old lady licks your wound and says a prayer for you and the burn will heal, oh and you have to give her a small donation.

    So you pay someone to lick and open wound to heal it???
    She went on to explain to my aunt there are a few others in the village that have "the cure" for other illnesses/ailments all of whom you have to make a donation to for the privilege.

    This can't be true, are they really that mental in the country or is it just some snake oil scheme?

    Anyone else ever hear of someone with "the cure"?.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    But if you let someone from the country lick an open would, you could end up with rabies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    I might go see her have a problem in a delicate area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Havent experienced it personally but maybe I just avoid people that would believe such crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Lucifer MorningStar


    They have a few good songs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    To me the cure is day 2 on the beer to get over your hangover.

    It's the only cure to an ailment I care about anyway


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    It's seventh-son-of-a-seventh-son level of sh!te. Funny though. I've heard of others like mad auld wans who would bury a raw steak out the back to cure ringworm and the likes.

    joe stodge wrote: »
    So you pay someone to lick and open wound to heal it???

    What I do in Amsterdam on my holidays is nobody's business but my own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Are you not mixing up the cure and the plague?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    Couldn't she just go looking for compo instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    I might go see her have a problem in a delicate area.

    You'd have the "small donation" covered too...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Jesus, who knows where the auld ones tongue has been. (She could have been rimming her husband that morning, for all we know).

    Better get tetanus shot as well if you for this option.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Which reminds me

    I went to the doctor's office the other day and found out that

    my new doctor is a young female and drop-dead gorgeous!

    I was embarrassed, but she said, "Don't worry, I'm a

    Professional - I've seen it all before."



    Just tell me what's wrong and I'll "check it out."






    I said. "My wife thinks my Penis tastes funny."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I'm from "out in the country"can't say I've heard of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,674 ✭✭✭TheBody


    "Cures" are very common thing in the midlands. There are "cures" for a variety of ailments!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    joe stodge wrote: »
    So you pay someone to lick and open wound to heal it..

    But it wasn't an open wound, it was a simple burn that required no more than a bit of cream and a bandage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Bone setters are the best.

    Unqualified people cracking bones back into position, what could go wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    joe stodge wrote: »
    This can't be true, are they really that mental in the country or is it just some snake oil scheme?

    Hmm. Seems like Dublin has no shortage of reiki healing centres... Let us have our mad auld wans casting off demons!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭nuckeythompson


    Funnily enough I met an old man on the Meath Cavan border who had the cure. Had pretty bad steam burn on my wrist. Like a drunken fool I let him put his mouth on it.
    Ended up in hospital as it was 2nd degree burns and was seriously infected. Met the looney a while later and explained what I was told in the hospital and his reply was , I should have come back to him.

    Weird culchie **** alright and complete BS and had I not have gone to hospital it would have been very serious


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Did she use boiled 7-up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    What a strange thing to make up and post on an internet forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Did she use boiled 7-up?

    Flat 7-Up is the Irish Mammy elixir.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Chance The Rapper


    A family friend can cure thrush thrush with a kiss, I've seen it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Funnily enough I met an old man on the Meath Cavan border who had the cure. Had pretty bad steam burn on my wrist. Like a drunken fool I let him put his mouth on it.
    Ended up in hospital as it was 2nd degree burns and was seriously infected. Met the looney a while later and explained what I was told in the hospital and his reply was , I should have come back to him.

    Weird culchie **** alright and complete BS and had I not have gone to hospital it would have been very serious
    You forgot to bring the victim child


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Ruu wrote: »
    Flat 7-Up is the Irish Mammy elixir.
    And the old bottles of lucozade that had the yellow plastic wrapper on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Robert Smith?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    Have heard of the 'cure' - the one that cures burns is called a frogs lick in these parts - which means the curer licked a frog at some stage and got the power to cure scalds and minor burns -

    (I'm well aware of how ridiculous that sounds - but the placebo effect does work so I suppose if you believe it - who knows?)

    I only heard pf these cures when I moved rural - the cure where I come from normally involved a shot of whiskey the morning of a hangover. But still I find it charming that some people still have these odd superstitions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,833 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    I have a load of dock-leaves out the back, natures own savlon. They are yours for a small donation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Any seventh sons of a seventh son in the house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,674 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Cure of the burn and sprains would be very common.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-24165520
    27 September 2013 Last updated at 05:13 GMT Share this pagePrint
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    The cure and other miraculous tales of Ireland
    By Nuala McCann
    BBC News

    Mickey McGuigan, 73, is our guide in the world of miracles

    Mickey McGuigan lives with his brother in a forest swathed in the soft mist of ancient druid magic, somewhere near Forkhill in County Armagh.

    That was where filmmaker Daniel Vernon came upon him and learned about Ireland's miracle makers.

    In some parts of Ireland, if you have warts or backache or gout, you get what is known as "the cure".

    Someone will direct you to a man or a woman who has it.

    It is as common as going to see the doctor when you are ill.

    The cure is a secret prayer and a set of actions handed down through generations in families. There is a reverence about it. A person who has 'the cure' has a special gift.

    The idea fascinates Englishman Daniel almost as much as it fascinates Irishman Mickey. He is 73, a farmer and writer. He is a man in love with the land, with a face that has seen plenty and still wears the wonder of it all.

    His home is an old stone house in the back end of the woods. It is battered, crumbling, with windows on the brink of breaking.

    Perhaps Mickey himself is a relic of another life that is crumbling - one where the magic of a whispered prayer can rest easy alongside modern farming life, the old tractor tyre abandoned in the grass, a ragged curtain fluttering in the breeze of a farmhouse window and up to 100 channels on the HD television.

    But even though "the television man" has come to the woods outside Forkhill, Mickey has not forgotten the old ways.

    He hauls out a manual typewriter - £30 it cost him - and talks about the book he is writing about miracles.


    Eamon McDermott is asked to cure ringworm in cattle by spitting on them
    Mickey is the lynchpin for Daniel Vernon's documentary. The Miraculous Tales of Mickey McGuigan is about the people of the borderlands and the old Irish beliefs - including the belief that a cure will rid a person of warts, or the croup or backache or toothache with a bit of spittle, or a hand held on the spot and a prayer.

    "Seventy three years I've lived, through the bother of the north," said Mickey, "And my business is the miracle business."

    He mixes tales of the "bad article (person) of a witch" that would "take your head off in the woods", with tales of the time "the English Army came with their helicopters".

    He knows the people with the cure, he has them down in his book.

    "Eamon McDermott has a cure for the ringworm in cattle," he said. "He spits on it, makes the sign of the cross on the ground and off it goes, like a flash.

    "A woman with the shingles went to a man in Iniskeen. He went out and got clay that never saw sun and had no worms. He had to dig down for it. He put the clay on her head and told her to come back in three days. She got the cure,"

    He lists the old Irish traditions - stories that trip off his tongue as easily as a catechism. For believers, family position is important for the gift of the cure to pass down through generations.

    "If the seventh son of a seventh son is born in Ireland, you put a live worm in the heart of his hand and when the worm withers and dies, the child has the cure for everything - so the story goes," Mickey said.

    "People will come for miles to get a cure. Mary Brady has a cure for the colic: She's better than any doctor," he said.


    People travel to visit Mary Brady whom they believe has several 'cures'.
    Her cure involves a string to "release the knot in the stomach" and a prayer.

    In his documentary, Daniel Vernon also met Fr Noel Conlon, known as the healing priest who prays with people and offers them comfort. They come in their droves to see him.

    He captured the Reverend John Purcell on celluloid, an evangelical preacher, born an Irish traveller and raised a Catholic. He is the eldest of 19 brothers and sisters. He shares his gift of tongues. He can hold an audience in the palm of his hand. He has fire in his belly.

    Daniel Vernon's journey into the world of Irish cures is a magical one that is filmed with an artist's eye. His are portraits of a vanishing Ireland, a painting alight with country faces - farmers leaning over the gate at the mart - all dour faces and flat caps.

    A plaster statue of the Virgin Mary sits on a windowsill, her head has fallen off and lies beside her blue gown. There are weeds blowing in the soft breeze in the fields and snow piles up around a Celtic stone cross in an Irish graveyard .

    Daniel won a Bafta for his documentary, The Man who eats Badgers and other Strange Tales of Bodmin Moor.

    From the English moor to the wilds of south Armagh, he understands the connection that farmers have with the land. When he went on his travels along the Irish borderland, he ended up with a phonebook of names of all those people with cures. It spoke to his heart.


    Reverend John Purcell is the eldest of 19 brothers and sisters
    "I avoided those who were doing it for money," he said. "It is so rare to find something so purely altruistic.

    "A lot of people take on to perform a cure. It seems a really beautiful thing to give to a stranger, whether or not it works. Think of a gruff farmer who stops his day's work to take a phone call from a guy about his gout."

    But it was Mickey who brought this documentary film together who became our guide into this other world.

    "I hope I grow old like him with that feeling of contentment. He is happy with life, he does not want for anything," said Daniel.

    Would the documentary maker seek a cure?

    He has done and said it seemed to work. Like Mickey, he is on the fence on the issue... but believes the world is much richer place for people who have the cure.

    "They certainly comfort people. That is the most important thing.

    "If they are not taking money, what harm can it do? A lot of people are desperate for someone to put their arms around them and tell them it is going to be okay."




    Mad bastards, the lot of them


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Psssst - it will heal just as well without someone licking it. Possibly even better.


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