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Has the internet changed since going mainstream?

  • 01-08-2014 05:26PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 75 ✭✭


    The internet has changed for the worse as it has become more mainstream, in my opinion. With the advent of Facebook, Youtube, and Twitter arrived a tidal wave of the general public who were until then unacquainted with the internet and its culture and etiquette. An “eternal September” if you will. It was previously the reserve of the nerds and the society’s outcasts. Allow me to elaborate with some examples.

    1. Days could pass between posts on a message board, meaning if you did make a post, it was well thought-out and meaningful. You looked forward to a response if you were the OP, in the hope that your query could be answered. These days, people fire-off hastily typed one-liners, often in a fit of anger or in a lame attempt to be funny. The quality of discussion has therefore dropped dramatically.

    2. The smaller number of members on particular forums back then meant that each person was more likely to get involved in the conversation and have their say. It’s analogous to having a chat with 3 friends over the dinner table compared to shouting in the middle of a crowd. The smaller communities were more intimate and you would gradually get to know the other members’ “personalities” and opinions. This acquaintance from a shared interest would often develop into friendship and you are less likely to be offensive or uncivil to a friend. Internet etiquette was therefore more adhered to.

    3. The communities were self-selecting. Unless you were really interested in aviation, for example, it was unlikely you would stumble across an aviation message board. These days we have “super-forums” that cover a wide range of interests, so if you join boards to discuss, let’s say, fashion, it won’t be long until you discover the other forums on travel, politics, languages etc. The increased accessibility of the individual forums leads to a more transient community and greater exposure to trolls. The loss of a sense of a stable community is regrettable.

    The veteran internet surfers displaced by the tidal wave of new users have no doubt migrated to more discreet communities and the dark web but it’s sad to a part of internet culture disappear.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    tldr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,486 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Internet Hipsters, bloody hell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    I miss slower internet, just too fast these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    4. its friday party on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Aka Ishur


    Op wears fedoras.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    I liked the internet before it was cool too


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    People on the internet were always angry. The rage factor used go through the roof playing online games circa 1996.its just there was much much less people online... Trolls always existed but now the scum of the earth and their mothers have Facebook pages where they can spout their ****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Porn is much quicker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Not being able to use the internet and have someone else on the phone at the same time.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    I miss the dial-up tone


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭hairybelly


    yeah probably

    (quality contribution)


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    truffle5 wrote: »
    The internet has changed for the worse as it has become more mainstream, in my opinion. With the advent of Facebook, Youtube, and Twitter arrived a tidal wave of the general public who were until then unacquainted with the internet and its culture and etiquette. An “eternal September” if you will. It was previously the reserve of the nerds and the society’s outcasts. Allow me to elaborate with some examples.

    1. Days could pass between posts on a message board, meaning if you did make a post, it was well thought-out and meaningful. You looked forward to a response if you were the OP, in the hope that your query could be answered. These days, people fire-off hastily typed one-liners, often in a fit of anger or in a lame attempt to be funny. The quality of discussion has therefore dropped dramatically.

    2. The smaller number of members on particular forums back then meant that each person was more likely to get involved in the conversation and have their say. It’s analogous to having a chat with 3 friends over the dinner table compared to shouting in the middle of a crowd. The smaller communities were more intimate and you would gradually get to know the other members’ “personalities” and opinions. This acquaintance from a shared interest would often develop into friendship and you are less likely to be offensive or uncivil to a friend. Internet etiquette was therefore more adhered to.

    3. The communities were self-selecting. Unless you were really interested in aviation, for example, it was unlikely you would stumble across an aviation message board. These days we have “super-forums” that cover a wide range of interests, so if you join boards to discuss, let’s say, fashion, it won’t be long until you discover the other forums on travel, politics, languages etc. The increased accessibility of the individual forums leads to a more transient community and greater exposure to trolls. The loss of a sense of a stable community is regrettable.

    The veteran internet surfers displaced by the tidal wave of new users have no doubt migrated to more discreet communities and the dark web but it’s sad to a part of internet culture disappear.

    Main stream? is the internet not about 20 years old


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,175 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    I used to have to wheel my whole desktop into the hallway plug out the phone and put the internet in and then wait painfully with cock in hand for an image on 'the hun' to load.

    So no it hasn't got worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭hairybelly


    xzanti wrote: »
    I miss the dial-up tone

    I dont, because it was impossible to sneak on the internet at night without my parents hearing an unmerciful racket coming from the room with the pc.
    I was caught rotten one night when I discovered that turning off the speakers didnt stop the sound


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    xzanti wrote: »
    I miss the dial-up tone



    Christ that gives me the shivers. £1 per hour we were paying at one point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Ruu wrote: »
    I miss slower internet, just too fast these days.

    Ah the auld internet and that noise it used to make:
    Pshhhkkkkkkrrrr​kakingkakingkakingtsh​chchchchchchchcch​*ding*ding*ding*

    The smell of a turf fire crackling away and the screams of horror as the postman arrived with the eircom bill so big it was delivered in a box!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Main stream? is the internet not about 20 years old

    Most would argue it was the advent and wide incorporation of the TCP/IP protocol that was the birth of the internet.

    "In 1982, the Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP) was standardized and the concept of a world-wide network of fully interconnected TCP/IP networks called the Internet was introduced."

    So - 32 years. I first used the internet whilst in university in 1988. It has changed quite a bit since. At first it was government and academics. Now, it's all you crazy bastards. So, no, nothing's changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,006 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    I remember when all this was fields...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭It BeeMee


    I remember when all this was fields...

    ... with only the Altavista mountain in the distance...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    Since the internet went mainstream in 1993 I think it has changed a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,006 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    I think it used to be much better to be honest. People were much more open and less guarded if you were engaging on a one to one level. A world of interesting strangers awaited you when you fired up MSChat and they were all quite pleasant,shy,interesting and usually intelligent people, because only a certain type of person got the internet back then.
    I still have most of the friends I made online 13-14 years ago as a teen.
    Actually chat and downloading mp3 were the only decent thing to do back then online as most sites were actually pretty rubbish. That has changed for the better at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    You've changed Internet; you used to be cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Remember youtube back when it first started? Full of porn it was, and all sorts of weird stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I think Bebo introduced a lot of idiots to the internet. And then Facebook brought the rest of them along. My heart sinks a little when I see laptops advertised as being "ideal for Facebook." Oh Icarus, fly not so near the sun, lest thy waxen wings doth melt.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    The Internet has definitely become dumber the more popular it has gotten.

    People spend far too much effort on nonsense like twitter and instagram that don't really seem to serve much of a purpose for anyone beyond celebrities who use them to sell whatever crap they currently have going.

    Things like Facebook that give everyone an outlet to post viral videos and photos that are clearly fake or full of empty sentiment are annoying.

    Popularity has increased the background noise level of the Internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    RayM wrote: »
    I think Bebo introduced a lot of idiots to the internet. And then Facebook brought the rest of them along. My heart sinks a little when I see laptops advertised as being "ideal for Facebook." Oh Icarus, fly not so near the sun, lest thy waxen wings doth melt.

    It was game over once the popular people arrived. "what's that you say? I should check out rosanna Davidsons Bebo page? RIP Internet".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    I'll tell you one thing, at least back then i didnt have these awful fetishes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Remember the days when everything you did wasn't everyone else's business...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    I liked the internet before it was cool.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    smash wrote: »
    Remember the days when everything you did wasn't everyone else's business...
    Those days can still be with us if people are smart enough.


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