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Currency conversion

  • 27-07-2014 05:42PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭


    Hi,
    I usually buy on Amazon.co.uk....
    everytime I purchase, I pay .46 cent with PTSB aka..currency conversion fee

    Is there any way around this?

    seph


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,914 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Hi,
    I usually buy on Amazon.co.uk....
    everytime I purchase, I pay .46 cent with PTSB aka..currency conversion fee

    Is there any way around this?

    seph

    I assume you are paying in Sterling on a EUR PTSB card?

    When ordering of Amazon, they usually give you the choice of paying in Sterling or EUR,

    If you pay in GBP, you will (as you have found) pay a small fee to your card issuer for the currency conversion. The FX rate will be the PTSB rate.

    If you pay in EUR, Amazon will convert (at Amazon's Rates) to EUR, and you avoid the PTSB fee.

    But if the Amazon rate is worse than the PTSB rate, you might find that it was better to pay the PTSB fee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    you can pay amazon in euros. You wont pay that fee but you will have to accept the conversion rate used by amazon. which could be better or worse than what PTSB charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    thanks for the clarify....

    useful info....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    I assume you are paying in Sterling on a EUR PTSB card?

    When ordering of Amazon, they usually give you the choice of paying in Sterling or EUR,

    If you pay in GBP, you will (as you have found) pay a small fee to your card issuer for the currency conversion. The FX rate will be the PTSB rate.

    If you pay in EUR, Amazon will convert (at Amazon's Rates) to EUR, and you avoid the PTSB fee.

    But if the Amazon rate is worse than the PTSB rate, you might find that it was better to pay the PTSB fee.

    yeah you assumed correct, I paying in sterling with the PTSB card..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    so what would ye advise?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    can one check it there an then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    I checked it out....on a book example...

    if you pay in Euro, ie. use Amazon's currenncy converter...
    You pay over a euro more

    so better off with PTSB currency converter...and the .46 charge...

    some info on a blog:



    t’s hard to imagine buying almost anything online without at least paying Amazon a quick visit. They’re perhaps one of the greatest examples of a business that’s succeeded by looking after their customers. And for that we admire them greatly.

    But what about their currency converter? In recent times they’ve been banging the drum of international cross-border purchases, so what better than a built-in service for paying in foreign currencies? Sounds great, right? Well, let’s not be too hasty.
    We took a look at the pros and cons, and whether or not it will actually save you money.


    How it works

    If you live in France, say, and want to buy something from Amazon’s UK site using your debit or credit card, there are two options open to you. You can either pay the stated price in pounds sterling, or – if you’re with Visa or Mastercard – you can opt to activate the currency converter which will show you the price in euros, allowing you to pay that amount instead.

    As well as pounds and euros, there are a number of other currencies eligible for the service, including US and Australian dollars, Japanese yen and Swiss francs among others. That’s good news for millions of Amazon-addicts worldwide.


    Yes, it’s convenient…
    One of the advantages of the currency converter is the immediacy of information. If you don’t use it and you decide to pay inthe foreign currency (so if you’re in France and decide to use your euro-currency card to buy something in pounds from Amazon UK, for example), you’ll have to wait till you get your next bank or card statement to find out how much you’ve actually ended up paying in euros. That amount will be based on whatever the exchange rate happens to be at the time your order ships. And when we say "exchange rate", we mean the marked-up rate your bank or card provider is charging you, which may differ depending on who you’re with. This may also include a transaction fee.

    On the other hand, if you use the currency converter then you’ll immediately know how much you’ll be paying in your own local currency. You can even see exactly what exchange rate Amazon is using by clicking the helpfully-titled View Exchange Rate button. And if you need to refund the item, that exact exchange rate will be used – so there’s no danger of getting back a bit less than you paid for it if the rate has since changed. A nice touch, we think.


    …but you pay for the privilege.
    Putting the instant info and sheer convenience of the service to one side, will it actually leave you better off than paying in pounds? The short answer is, it depends, but most likely not. Amazon say you "may" pay less using their currency converter because they strive to provide a "competitive exchange rate". This may or may not be a better exchange rate than the one your bank or card provider would use if you chose not to use the Amazon currency converter. Clear as mud.

    Quite a few users have taken to message boards expressing dismay at how Amazon’s rates don’t match the more favourable exchange rates quoted elsewhere on the web. The fact is, the vast majority of organisations, from Amazon to your high street bank, don’t provide customers with the mid-market or "real" exchange rate used behind the scenes.

    Ultimately, though, it’s probably best not to expect too much in terms of exchange rate savings when it comes to the currency converter. Its real benefit lies in the way it tells you what you’ll be paying in your local currency at the moment of purchase, which is handy if you’re keeping a close eye on your exact daily outgoings. For that alone, it’s a pretty useful option to have. But for maximising the foreign currency you get for your local money, it’s no better than the old guard of banks & currency brokers we love to loath.


    By Taavet Hinrikus,

    TransferWise Co-Founder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,914 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    so what would ye advise?

    If you were making two separate purchases on the same day, you might choose to pay one on EUR and one in GBP, and when you get your statement, do the math and figure out which is best.

    I know my Bank (AIB) charges me about 3% for foreign transaction, so if I order from a site where I know their margin is 6 or 7% percent, I decline the offer to pay in my own currency.

    If I ever find a online store where the rate is better, I will post it.

    My experience of Amazon is that it is cheaper to pay in GBP and let the nice people in AIB convert it for me, there was a time when I spent a lot of money in the UK, and I did consider getting a GBP issued card for that, but never followed up on it, and now I do not spend much on GBP sites now. NationWide UK do not charge commission of FX transactions, so it could be used for GBP and EUR purchases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I have kept records several times, or the euro price offered and what was on my CC statement when I paid with sterling, it was always cheaper to select sterling, I am with BOI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,914 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    rubadub wrote: »
    I have kept records several times, or the euro price offered and what was on my CC statement when I paid with sterling, it was always cheaper to select sterling, I am with BOI.

    I have never actually found an on-line store which came anywhere near the rate offered by my CC. I even found savings on purchases on 4/5 euro.


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