Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 mod warning linked in OP 26/07

punk_one82 · 22-07-2014 12:32PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Looksl like we are in for Atletico's young RB Manquillo .

Seen him a few times for Spain & Atleti. Very attacking RB who looked a very good prospect but is very inexperienced.

Hopefully that's a loan with an option to buy.

El Inho · 22-07-2014 12:38PM

[quote="Francie Barrett;91383437". What becomes of Coutinho in that case?[/quote]

I have a capable understudy

El Inho · 22-07-2014 12:46PM

Awkward transfer photo of the year award.

garra · 22-07-2014 12:47PM

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

Isco vs Sterling and Coutinho
Not a huge upgrade but would add a LOT of depth to the squad

How can anyone take these stats seriously when Sterling has a 100% shot accuracy rating and Isco has completed 100% of his passes? Load of cobblers that.

Kirby · 22-07-2014 12:49PM

daithijjj wrote: »

When you see the figures for tv rights money we miss out on so much money, that if we were playing in La Liga for example, would be worth just under 75m per season. Thats why FFP is a myth, it only vaguely applies to ring fenced associations.

Edit, thats 75m per season more than we get currently.

Not sure how you figure that. Nobody outside madrid and barca makes serious money off tv deals in spain. They have the monopoly and they know it. They take a massive chunk of the available money.

None of the also rans have it nearly as well in spain as the also rans in england. The spanish equivalent of aston villa would be getting a pittance compared to villa are.

delw · 22-07-2014 12:54PM

So we apparently looking at Isco & Manquillo on loan while we sit on a pile of cash,keeping it for a rainy day are we

Underpaid Mike · 22-07-2014 12:59PM

delw wrote: »

So we apparently looking at Isco & Manquillo on loan while we sit on a pile of cash,keeping it for a rainy day are we

I think we are saving up to buy Southampton FC.
Save us a fortune in the long term at this rate

Raif Severance · 22-07-2014 01:00PM

delw wrote: »

So we apparently looking at Isco & Manquillo on loan while we sit on a pile of cash,keeping it for a rainy day are we

Nope.

We're actually buying Southampton.

EDIT: Damn you, Underpaid Mike!

Underpaid Mike · 22-07-2014 01:02PM

Raif Severance wrote: »

Nope.

We're actually buying Southampton.

EDIT: Damn you, Underpaid Mike!

Haha great minds think alike!

*The fools seldom differ part of that saying obviously doesnt apply to us!

rob316 · 22-07-2014 01:13PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Looksl like we are in for Atletico's young RB Manquillo .

Seen him a few times for Spain & Atleti. Very attacking RB who looked a very good prospect but is very inexperienced.

Anyone over johnson. This kid couldn't be worse.

redbaron_99 · 22-07-2014 01:17PM

delw wrote: »

So we apparently looking at Isco & Manquillo on loan while we sit on a pile of cash,keeping it for a rainy day are we

Was the Suarez paid up front or in installments?

Underpaid Mike · 22-07-2014 01:20PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Was the Suarez paid up front or in installments?

Apparently the bulk of the cash will be up front

AS reports that Liverpool will only receive about £54million of the Suarez fee up front.

mormank · 22-07-2014 01:20PM

Kirby wrote: »

Not sure how you figure that. Nobody outside madrid and barca makes serious money off tv deals in spain. They have the monopoly and they know it. They take a massive chunk of the available money.

None of the also rans have it nearly as well in spain as the also rans in england. The spanish equivalent of aston villa would be getting a pittance compared to villa are.

It's crazy that they get away with that tbh. It gives them such an advantage over other top European clubs. An unfair one imo.

mormank · 22-07-2014 01:23PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Was the Suarez paid up front or in installments?

I think 'The Suarez' will be paid weekly or monthly until his time at Barca ends.

Knex* · 22-07-2014 01:24PM

"Will only receive about £54million".

Only.

Jaysus.

mormank · 22-07-2014 01:26PM

Knex. wrote: »

"Will only receive about £54million".

Only.

Jaysus.

Yup, but judging off previous reports of Barca's transfer dealings who knows when we will be seeing the last 21mill or whatever it is.

rob316 · 22-07-2014 01:30PM

mormank wrote: »

Yup, but judging off previous reports of Barca's transfer dealings who knows when we will be seeing the last 21mill or whatever it is.

Guess is we will never see it we will be offered some fringe player to settle it. We did well to get 54m upfront, real are paying spurs for bale in 20m installments.

Underpaid Mike · 22-07-2014 01:31PM

mormank wrote: »

Yup, but judging off previous reports of Barca's transfer dealings who knows when we will be seeing the last 21mill or whatever it is.

Ah let them keep the 21m and we will take Pedro and Afellay instead

mormank · 22-07-2014 01:35PM

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

Ah let them keep the 21m and we will take Pedro and Afellay instead

Afellay is 28 now! I couldn't believe it when I looked him up yesterday whilst discussing potential transfers with friends. I'm not sure I would want him anymore. Looks like another career wasted by one of those two big Spanish clubs.

rob316 · 22-07-2014 01:52PM

Koeman, saying no fresh bid from us for Lovren. All the reliable lads are reporting we have had a bid accepted, is Koeman just posturing for the supporters and making it look like they are trying to keep Lovren?

On Lovren I'm not a fan of his conduct forcing the move out of Southampton after only a year there but I can see his point on them having zero ambition. The manager, Shaw, Lambert, Lallana and possibly Schneiderlin will have left.

Lovren, Lallana there stock may never be higher so to secure a move to a prestigious club like Liverpool and play in the CL is something they cant turn down as the opportunity may never present itself again.

K-9 · 22-07-2014 02:04PM

Charlie19 wrote: »

I totally agree with you on Johnson but there doesn't seem to be any smoke regarding a transfer out so I'd reckon Rodgers will keep him in the side and I'd be happy enough with Flannagin keeping his place on the left.

If we are buying only one FB I'd prefer a RB. If Enrique is fit and we've Flanagan as cover I'd be ok with that, RB we really don't have much options at all.

Turtyturd · 22-07-2014 02:11PM

mormank wrote: »

Yup, but judging off previous reports of Barca's transfer dealings who knows when we will be seeing the last 21mill or whatever it is.

It will be knocked off the fee next season when 'Louie' comes 'home'.

K-9 · 22-07-2014 02:12PM

garra wrote: »

How can anyone take these stats seriously when Sterling has a 100% shot accuracy rating and Isco has completed 100% of his passes? Load of cobblers that.

Yep, first thought for me too. Oddly there was comparison stats for Sterling a couple of days ago and his chance conversion rate was 26/27%, better than Suarez and a few other good quality comparisons.

The stats guys must be watching different matches to me! Must be he got better as the season went on. Funny how early impressions stick!

Kirby · 22-07-2014 02:14PM

K-9 wrote: »

Yep, first thought for me too. Oddly there was comparison stats for Sterling a couple of days ago and his chance conversion rate was 26/27%, better than Suarez and a few other good quality comparisons.

The stats guys must be watching different matches to me! Must be he got better as the season went on. Funny how early impressions stick!

The 100% stat was an error. It came up correct if you refreshed the page.

But I agree with you completely in principal. People shouldn't judge players by stats but by watching them play. You can manipulate numbers to back up any argument you care to make. Watching a player yourself is a much better indication.

K-9 · 22-07-2014 02:15PM

Knex. wrote: »

"Will only receive about £54million".

Only.

Jaysus.

That would mean the fee must be £75 Million or whatever. If it was €75 Million or £65 Million you wouldn't say we are only getting £54 Million up front.

Knex* · 22-07-2014 02:27PM

K-9 wrote: »

That would mean the fee must be £75 Million or whatever. If it was €75 Million or £65 Million you wouldn't say we are only getting £54 Million up front.

Yeah, definitely.

Still, I was more getting at the fact that someone put, "only getting", and followed it by a number as ridiculous as £54 million.

Washington Irving · 22-07-2014 02:27PM

K-9 wrote: »

That would mean the fee must be £75 Million or whatever. If it was €75 Million or £65 Million you wouldn't say we are only getting £54 Million up front.

Your sig needs editing. Might I suggest a nice Glen Johnson? Perhaps a Reus or di Maria in anticipation of their imminent arrivals?

Knex. wrote: »

Yeah, definitely.

Still, I was more getting at the fact that someone put, "only getting", and followed it by a number as ridiculous as £54 million.

Peasant.

22-07-2014 02:37PM

The latest on Manquillo, it's early days regarding the deal.

Given Glen Johnson's form for the last 2 years I'm probably more elated with this prospective transfer than all our other dealings so far

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/javier-manquillo-liverpool-fc-reds-7476406

Fescue · 22-07-2014 02:48PM

0028673 wrote: »

The latest on Manquillo, it's early days regarding the deal.

Given Glen Johnson's form for the last 2 years I'm probably more elated with this prospective transfer than all our other dealings so far

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/javier-manquillo-liverpool-fc-reds-7476406

I would imagine that's it for Martin Kelly.

Also likely to be the end of Wisdom at the club if they are pursuing someone younger and less experienced.

There are a lot of players facing the axe in the coming weeks.

Sir Gallagher · 22-07-2014 02:50PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Was the Suarez paid up front or in installments?

We are being paid in 625,000,000 packets of Banshee Bones, 10 by the week. Deal should be wrapped up in about a million years or so. Of course the whole landscape of football will have changed by then. Liverpool F.C will be renamed The Peoples Republic of Cabra, captained by none other than a humanoid created through advanced robotics and the DNA of Freddy Adu, who fortunately has ceased living by being encased in a giant globule of amber. His DNA will have been extracted, of course, using the same method as Richard Attenborough's character in Jurrasic Park.

If anyone tells you otherwise, they are a fibber.

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