Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 mod warning linked in OP 26/07

K-9 · 21-07-2014 01:22AM

whatawaster wrote: »

Coutinho for me is undroppable based on end of season form. When we really needed it, he and Sterling stepped up

That was the encouraging thing towards the end of last season, when Sturridge and even the Suarez goals dried up a bit.

i heart chewy louie wrote: »

This Origi guy doesn't score a lot of goals for a striker.

7 goals from 45 career matches. I'd manage that.

This gets said every season after the first few signings and never materialises.

Well his first season, he looked not bad for his age in the WC, plus its a long term thing, ideally be a squad player season after next.

As for the squad, we never had this much De Niro to spend before. We could end up spending more than Rodgers has had in his time here, in one Summer.

Morzadec wrote: »

Well we dont have Suarez anymore, so I imagine at the moment we're looking at one of Lallana or Coutinho to join Sturridge and Sterling in the front 3 and the other to accompany Henderson in midfield.

I imagine Lazar will begin his Liverpool career from the bench

I do think we'll be starting with most of the regulars last season and easing the new signings in as much as possible, makes sense.

K-9 · 21-07-2014 01:25AM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

if only

I left Lambert out the last day, even more unforgiveable, I'm not used to having to list attacking options.

dogbert27 · 21-07-2014 01:25AM

Kerrigooney wrote: »

He'd never join us. His life wouldn't be worth living in Liverpool.

Unless he said "it was always my dream to one day play for a big club!" I don't see why.
Obviously he'd get some stick but Everton are not going to crack the top four.
He'd get CL football straight away by joining this summer and I'm sure if Kenwright was offered 20 million for a player he paid half a million for he'd bite your hand off!!!

Kingdom · 21-07-2014 01:41AM

dogbert27 wrote: »

I'm sure if Kenwright was offered 20 million for a player he paid half a million for he'd bite your hand off!!!

50k or 70k depending on who you listen to.

Calvin · 21-07-2014 01:44AM

Di Maria looks set for PSG..would it be worth it to throw a bid at Lucas Moura or Lavezzi?

witnessrenegade · 21-07-2014 02:51AM

So 3 more players to come in, still none of them are really getting me excited, it can't be that hard to convince one top class player to come to us, we're in the CL, and came second last year, maybe im being too greedy but id love another great player to come in and take that number 7 shirt, if Sterling keeps his form up it's his for the taking

Vicxas · 21-07-2014 06:57AM

witnessrenegade wrote: »

So 3 more players to come in, still none of them are really getting me excited, it can't be that hard to convince one top class player to come to us, we're in the CL, and came second last year, maybe im being too greedy but id love another great player to come in and take that number 7 shirt, if Sterling keeps his form up it's his for the taking

Possibly Rodgers wants to get the squad players in before he makes the "Big" signing.

Well, I hope so....

whatawaster · 21-07-2014 07:37AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah he improved incredibly.

Who would you drop then if Lallana comes in?

Or more importantly who will Rodgers drop?

He would be a rotation player for me. As our squad currently stands:

Easier home matches

Gerrard

Henderson

Sterling---Coutinho----Markovic

Sturridge

For trickier games

Gerrard

Allen----

Henderson

Sterling----Sturridge----Coutinho

Those would be my default lineups.
Obviously we have Remy, Markovic, Lallana, Lambert, Can and others who could potentially come in.

Devilman40k · 21-07-2014 09:07AM

I think a lot of people might be surprised by Lallana. He's not coming to Anfield to make up the numbers, I can see him starting a number of games in midfield alongside Henderson and Gerrard, giving us extra pace and running.

Vicxas · 21-07-2014 09:10AM

Devilman40k wrote: »

I think a lot of people might be surprised by Lallana. He's not coming to Anfield to make up the numbers, I can see him starting a number of games in midfield alongside Henderson and Gerrard, giving us extra pace and running.

I think it'll be a Lallana - Henderson - Gerrard - Markovic for the most part.

Luckycharms_74 · 21-07-2014 09:15AM

marno21 wrote: »

BREAKING: Daniel Agger has put his house up for sale, fueling spectulation he is about to leave #LFC

Any source for that because Agger was quoted a few days saying this

Agger: My restaurants were sold four years ago and I’ll be surprised and very sad if anyone has put my house up for sale.”

slingerz · 21-07-2014 09:47AM

Devilman40k wrote: »

I think a lot of people might be surprised by Lallana. He's not coming to Anfield to make up the numbers, I can see him starting a number of games in midfield alongside Henderson and Gerrard, giving us extra pace and running.

Lallana will be coming in as a first team starter. If anything it'll be Coutinho that will miss out. There is already speculation linking Coutinho with a move away sure

Knex* · 21-07-2014 09:53AM

Have we finished buying Southampton yet?

atilladehun · 21-07-2014 10:00AM

Ah we can't sell Coutinho. He's deadly.

ThunbergsAreGo · 21-07-2014 10:00AM

Surely Allen is the one to miss out?

Not sold on him at all, 15m players should stand out more agsint weaker opposition than he does. Hes a "fine" player, no more no less

whatawaster · 21-07-2014 10:02AM

slingerz wrote: »

Lallana will be coming in as a first team starter. If anything it'll be Coutinho that will miss out. There is already speculation linking Coutinho with a move away sure

Speculation where?

Unless it's anywhere reputable, it's hardly worth comment.

They can't all be starters. Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana, Markovic, Remy will all have some claim to a first XI berth, but for me Lallana has to earn that spot.

Alonso77 · 21-07-2014 10:02AM

atilladehun wrote: »

Ah we can't sell Coutinho. He's deadly.

:eek:We're selling Coutinho!?! Not the first thing I needed to hear on a Monday morning, ffs!

slingerz · 21-07-2014 10:04AM

whatawaster wrote: »

Speculation where?

Unless it's anywhere reputable, it's hardly worth comment.

They can't all be starters. Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana, Markovic, Remy will all have some claim to a first XI berth, but for me Lallana has to earn that spot.

The first team starters are for me the guys who would be picked to play in the biggest games.

The front 6 would be Gerrard, Henderson, Lallana, Sterling, Sturridge and Markovic IMO

I'm sure that Coutinho will feature in a large number of games either as a starter or from the bench, similar to Remy, Allen, Can and Lambert.

MD1990 · 21-07-2014 10:06AM

i heart chewy louie wrote: »

Look I'm writing him off and that is that Utopia Parkway.
Ibe will amount to not much either.

James isn't a striker. 9/40 is a good/excellent return from a midfielder, 7/45 for a striker?

Origi played LW for Lille last season.

murpho999 · 21-07-2014 10:08AM

People keep going on about the first 11 but surely it's different with CL games this season.

Squad needed to be built up for extra games and the likes of Coutinho, Henderson, Can and Lallana are just not going to play every game.

So many people on here seem to think we just need 11 players and when a player is brought in it means someone has to go.

Boom_Bap · 21-07-2014 10:15AM

murpho999 wrote: »

People keep going on about the first 11 but surely it's different with CL games this season.

Squad needed to be built up for extra games and the likes of Coutinho, Henderson, Can and Lallana are just not going to play every game.

So many people on here seem to think we just need 11 players and when a player is brought in it means someone has to go.

Our team we field in the Carling Cup (or whatever its called this year) should be a mix of 1st eleven, squad and maybe 1 or 2 youth/reserve players. In recent years its been mainly youth/reserve and first eleven because there hasn't really been a squad.
There are plenty of games for everyone.

I also think that each week there will be a different team sheet depending on who we are playing.

retalivity · 21-07-2014 10:17AM

Douglas Costa, anyone?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/21/shakhtar-donetsk-players-missing-douglas-costa

5live · 21-07-2014 10:19AM

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Any source for that because Agger was quoted a few days saying this

The best poster to ask about any move away by Agger is Aggeristheman:pac:

Vicxas · 21-07-2014 10:23AM

retalivity wrote: »

Douglas Costa, anyone?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/21/shakhtar-donetsk-players-missing-douglas-costa

Is that Diego's twin brother?

rob316 · 21-07-2014 10:24AM

slingerz wrote: »

Lallana will be coming in as a first team starter. If anything it'll be Coutinho that will miss out. There is already speculation linking Coutinho with a move away sure

Coutinho!! The lad is going to be an absolute superstar in a couple of years he will be one of the top players in the league. No way would we sell him.

tritium · 21-07-2014 10:24AM

slingerz wrote: »

The first team starters are for me the guys who would be picked to play in the biggest games.

The front 6 would be Gerrard, Henderson, Lallana, Sterling, Sturridge and Markovic IMO

I'm sure that Coutinho will feature in a large number of games either as a starter or from the bench, similar to Remy, Allen, Can and Lambert.

Not sure I'd be so quick to put Coutinho behind a new signing with zero premiership experience. Exciting as Markovic is it will take him a while to get up to speed. I suspect we'll actually be doing a 6from 8 system for that front 6 for the most part, depending on if we get a marquee name or not.

Kess73 · 21-07-2014 10:26AM

Seems to be a bit of talk over the Lovern fee.

Lot of European outlets are reporting that it is a 20m (circa 16m pound) euro bid that was accepted by Southampton rather than the £20m figure that many British journos are saying.

Francie Barrett · 21-07-2014 10:28AM

slingerz wrote: »

it'll be Coutinho that will miss out. There is already speculation linking Coutinho with a move away sure

Coutinho is going absolutely nowhere this Summer.

googled eyes · 21-07-2014 10:29AM

Ian Ayre using Jedi mind tricks to get them to agree to €20m

rob316 · 21-07-2014 10:34AM

Kess73 wrote: »

Seems to be a bit of talk over the Lovern fee.

Lot of European outlets are reporting that it is a 20m (circa 16m pound) euro bid that was accepted by Southampton rather than the £20m figure that many British journos are saying.

Unless there is a set release clause I always take a reported fee with a pinch of salt. Take a big fee and knock £5m off it to the real figure is how I look at it. Lallana cost £16m as Bournemouth received £4m exactly 25%, but you will still hear he cost £20m. Henderson cost £16m from Sunderland, you always hear he cost £20m, the same now with Lovren.

We all love a bargain but if the player is a success the fee is irrelevant.

Lets be honest while Madrid can buy a Toni Kroos for £20m the rest of us have to pay the real inflated market prices, £20m really doesn't get you much these days.

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