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Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,546 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I assume we demanded a no compete clause when we loaned him.

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  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    @GFN_France
    RMC: Javier Manquillo likes Arsenal (loan offer w/ option) and Marseille, but Liverpool are negotiating with him today. #OM #LFC #AFC

    Atleti youngster, plays RB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭Underpaid Mike


    Looks like Shaqiri is definitely gone now. Has agreed terms with Roma, a pity

    http://talksport.com/football/reports-roma-agree-personal-terms-liverpool-target-140718102508


    Goal.com saying we are now linked with Isco. Super player but first it was reus, then vidal then pogba and now Isco ? Silly season in full swing
    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2557/news/2014/07/18/4966949/liverpool-on-isco-alert


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭Underpaid Mike


    Echo have a decent profile of Remy. Little more excited about him after reading this

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reds-analysis-remy-would-provide-7453520
    Brendan Rodgers is armed with £75m - and he’s not afraid to use it.

    The Reds boss has confirmed the club’s four signings this summer were independent to Luis Suarez’s departure to Barcelona, meaning the money raised by the Uruguayan’s sale can be reinvested in the squad.

    Liverpool want another striker after bringing Rickie Lambert to the club, with Loic Remy the latest player to be targeted after initial interest in Wilfried Bony ended.

    The French international, who has an £8million release clause in his contract at Queens Park Rangers, scored 14 goals on loan at Newcastle United last season.

    *READ: Rodgers plans to spend more as interest in Remy emerges

    Initial reaction ranges from bemusement to indifference.

    After Liverpool finished second and qualified for the Champions League, there was an expectation that it would prove a game changer in the transfer market; the bright lights of Anfield on a Tuesday or Wednesday night would see the world’s best dance beneath them.

    Momentarily ignoring that the Reds have signed two England internationals, a Germany Under-21 international and one of the most respected youngsters in European football – somewhat challenging the perception of the summer so far – Remy would bring goals, both scoring them and creating them, to the side.

    The 27-year-old notched 14 goals in just 26 appearances, and was a big positive in a Newcastle season which had few of them.

    His direct running, pace and finishing ability would appear to make him – at £8million, at least – a smart target, especially given it has been proven in the Premier League since his arrival in January 2013.

    Bought by QPR in an attempt to salvage their Premier League status, Remy bagged six goals in just 14 appearances, including a brilliant effort in the relegation six-pointer with Wigan. Receiving the ball on the counter attack, 25 yards from goal, he generated awesome pace and swerve on the ball to lash it past the goalkeeper.

    QPR went down, but his performances saw him stay in the top flight with the Toon; he repaid their faith handsomely with goals of all sorts – close-range headers, curlers from outside the area and individual skill in crowded penalty areas.

    The inclination is that Remy plays a similar style to Daniel Sturridge – quick, skilful and revelling in grabbing goals.

    A cursory glance would support that. Remy scored a goal every 150 minutes, while Sturridge was more frequent with a goal every 108 minutes – but the excellence of Sturridge should not detract from the Frenchman’s own efforts, whose goal-to-game ratio was only bettered by Suarez, Sturridge, Sergio Aguero, Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie.

    Their performances were similar in other aspects, too. Their shots per game average is near identical, while Remy created an average of 1.2 chances a game to Sturridge’s one. Their successful dribbles average – Remy 1.1, Sturridge 1.3 – was also close, while their shot accuracy of 49% is the same.

    Sturridge is more clinical in front of goal, converting nearly 25% of his chances compared to Remy’s 21.5% hit-rate (excluding blocked shots) – but again, this should not disparage Remy’s work. His form in finding the net was better than Philippe Coutinho (7%) and Suarez (20.4%), as well as Rickie Lambert's season at Southampton (16%), but admittedly worse than Raheem Sterling (27%).

    There would be other benefits in pursuing Remy. He has more Champions League experience than most of the Reds squad having taken part in two full campaigns with Marseille, including games against Bayern Munich, Inter Milan and Borussia Dortmund. Remy would score both home and away against the Bundesliga champions as Marseille did the double over them.

    He is not the perfect player, of course. Questions about his attitude arose towards the end of the season, with a strong belief he refused to play for Newcastle on the final day – poetically, against Liverpool - in fear of injuring himself ahead of the World Cup.

    Remy himself alluded to that, telling French publication L’Equipe: “The coach Alan Pardew understood my point of view. We had nothing to play for and I didn’t want to risk getting hurt again.”

    Pardew refuted the claims, naturally. “The reality was that Loic had sustained an ankle injury in our game against Cardiff the previous week.”

    His injury record was also of some concern for the Toon last season, starting just 24 games; niggles became knocks, and knocks became problems.

    On the pitch, he assisted just three goals last season compared to Sturridge’s seven, while his performances in the North East were a by-product of him being the focal point of attack – a luxury he would not be given at Anfield.

    Remy was also found offside more than once a game on average, something that would be detrimental to Liverpool’s fast, intelligent surges up the pitch.

    But it is those surges and that style of play which makes Remy a decent option up front. His movement, combined with finishing ability, could either ease the burden on Sturridge or even complement him – Remy’s best performances came in a two alongside Shola Ameobi, and Liverpool need squad depth ahead of a busy schedule.

    He also spent some time on the left wing for Newcastle, but with the options at the Reds’ disposal in the positions in attacking midfield, he is likeliest to feature up front.

    He would be no replacement for Suarez – but only a handful of players would be. Rodgers wants strikers and Rodgers wants goals.

    No surprise then, that Rodgers is interested in Remy. At £8million, it’s a relatively inexpensive gamble that may or may not pay off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Echo have a decent profile of Remy. Little more excited about him after reading this

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reds-analysis-remy-would-provide-7453520
    Brendan Rodgers is armed with £75m - and he’s not afraid to use it

    I must say I found the first line very funny!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭googled eyes


    Tusky wrote: »
    Spanish papers reporting a fresh bid for Moreno - €20m plus add ons and a friendly between the two clubs.

    Wasn't that what we originally offered before Ayre tried to play knifey spoony


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Wasn't that what we originally offered before Ayre tried to play knifey spoony

    His cunning plan worked though pay the original price but let them think they are screwing us by taking Aspas off our hands and getting the first offer as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    martyos121 wrote: »
    .

    I think subtlety is lost on you my friend. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,621 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    God, can we sign someone today please.


    I mean only 4 people so far.... who are we, spurs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,546 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    His cunning plan worked though pay the original price but let them think they are screwing us by taking Aspas off our hands and getting the first offer as well.

    As I understand it, it was either £20 million for Moreno, or £25 million and Aspas for Moreno.

    We really screwed them with the loan.
    Ian Ayre is a bloody genius.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    We should all just post pictures of ourselves leaning against a wall to ease the cravings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,546 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I think subtlety is lost on you my friend. :)

    Yeah, it probably is to be honest with you. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭Underpaid Mike


    Wasn't that what we originally offered before Ayre tried to play knifey spoony

    Think our initial bid was much lower with add ons which they were not interested in
    Hopefully this time we just throw the cash at them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,139 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78


    We should all just post pictures of ourselves leaning against a wall to ease the cravings

    This might keep us going for a bit....until Reus arrives


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,546 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    We should all just post pictures of ourselves leaning against a wall to ease the cravings

    It's not as easy as it looks, you know.
    There's a delicate science behind it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Chip Whitley


    Cartman78 wrote: »
    This might keep us going for a bit....until Reus arrives

    I prefer this myself.

    Mwah ha ha ha haaaaa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,621 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    I prefer this myself.

    Mwah ha ha ha haaaaa

    No, Noooooooooooooo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Chip Whitley


    Vicxas wrote: »
    No, Noooooooooooooo!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭El Inho


    How many of sturridges goals were the result of Suarez?
    This stat sums up his contribution to the team



    Suarez also won 5 penalties which are not included as assists

    I think its completely impossible to over estimate how important he is to Liverpool. He is double marked constantly which gives other players far more space leading to easier chances for other players.

    but how many goals and assists were game changers?

    he could win a game on his own, ill admit that. and he is a big loss. but im simply saying if he's a big a loss as some make him out to be, we may as well pack it in now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    I'm pretty sure winning a penalty counts as an assist unless the player takes it himself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭El Inho


    viper006 wrote: »
    Gotta wonder how many games you watched last season if you think this. His ability, will to win and contribution to our performances last season is hard to quantify he was just that important to us. There were many times last season we werent the best or under pressure but his magic got us over the line.

    Its a huge blow to our starting 11 losing him.Felt like rodgers was on the cusp of something great with the team he was building and now we have taken a huge step back. Sturridge is a fantastic player no doubt but with his injury record and amount of games we have this season coming , it wouldnt be mad to assume hel miss a chunk of next season as well with his usual niggling injuries he picks up. Lambert, borini and remy/bony are not going to remotely be able to contribute as much. I dont expect BR to 75m on a striker but if we dont get a top quality replacement, its going to be hard to stay in top 4.

    The real kick in the sack however is that while we lose our best player, Barca funded the transfer by selling afew of their own.Arsenal get Sanchez and chelsea get Cesc , 2 very good additions of real quality that only makes them stronger. Theres a huge swing there no matter what way you look at it. Just wouldnt have imagined at the end of the season things would have played out so badly for us.

    Louvren, remy, moreno,davies, for another 50-60m only makes me even more concerned to be honest

    pretty much all of the games. if you focus upon the run into the end of the season, Suarez actually really let us down. now he didn't owe us anything, but my his own standards he was poor.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Bsz8kWQCIAAq3hO.jpg:large

    At least Zaq has soft hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Nuri Sahin wrote: »
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    At least Zaq has soft hands.

    He doesn't have a sleeve tattoo he was never going to fit in at Liverpool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,831 ✭✭✭brevity


    That Kate Cohen article has been viewed 31,649 times. If she's getting paid per view, we've made her a tidy profit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭El Inho


    Very interesting article here on Mingolet
    He made more individual errors leading to a goal than other goalie in the premier league last year
    5 goals is a lot of goals. Surpising because I thought he had a decent season
    https://www.bsports.com/extratime/201314-numbers-goalkeepers-cech-mannone-szczesny-mignolet#.U8kT1PldWGM

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    going to be interesting to see what happens with reina now. with the increase in money, maybe his wages are more managable. he's the ideal sweeper keeper, comfortable with the ball at his feet. something i never liked mingolet doing, though i do like him as a keeper.

    really like the idea of the two lads being in the squad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,546 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    He doesn't have a sleeve tattoo he was never going to fit in at Liverpool.

    Andriy+Voronin+Ukraine+v+Sweden+Group+UEFA+jKgaaJHQVoRl.jpg

    Where did it all go wrong for poor Voronin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Chip Whitley


    Aspas is very slight for a striker isn't he? Nothing wrong with that if he excelled in other areas like pace, skill or heading but I am honestly struggling to think of what he was good at exactly.

    Except corners of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    martyos121 wrote: »
    Andriy+Voronin+Ukraine+v+Sweden+Group+UEFA+jKgaaJHQVoRl.jpg

    Where did it all go wrong for poor Voronin?

    It was never right!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    brevity wrote: »
    That Kate Cohen article has been viewed 31,649 times. If she's getting paid per view, we've made her a tidy profit.

    Isn't she married to some Knex lad. Explains all the links though;-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭Underpaid Mike


    El Inho wrote: »
    pretty much all of the games. if you focus upon the run into the end of the season, Suarez actually really let us down. now he didn't owe us anything, but my his own standards he was poor.

    Suarez really let us down in the run in ?
    Last 8 games of the season Suarez ratings

    8.39
    7.62
    7.28
    8.72
    6.85
    7.83
    7.02
    For an average of 7.67

    The 6.85 was v Chelsea in the 2-0 loss which was still the third highest rated Liverpool player on the pitch.

    Not sure what standards you are looking for but if you are saying Suarez was poor then he must have been the greatest player of all time up until that point with those stats.

    By comparison these are sturridges last 8 games

    8.87
    7.92
    7.29
    6.69
    6.24
    5.07
    6.68
    6.83
    Average 6.95

    Which included a 5 game scoreless streak


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