Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

RobertKK · 14-07-2014 12:34PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Is there a reason people don't give Richard Arnold any credit for these commercial deals??

I'd imagine he plays a pretty big role given hes commercial director.

He deserves credit but Ed is the man who holds the ultimate responsibility at United.

Spazdarn · 14-07-2014 12:34PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Edinson Cavani rumoured to be looking for a move to the premier league.

I can see United signing him for one reason - to replace Rooney. Otherwise it doesn't make sense. United are current favourites to sign him.

No need for him really, it's spending a huge amount of money replacing a player in and around the same age

TheDoc · 14-07-2014 12:34PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Edinson Cavani rumoured to be looking for a move to the premier league.

I can see United signing him for one reason - to replace Rooney. Otherwise it doesn't make sense. United are current favourites to sign him.

LVG could be taking a tac from Fergies book, address weak points in squad by singing MOAR STRIKERS!

Lord TSC · 14-07-2014 12:34PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Edinson Cavani rumoured to be looking for a move to the premier league.

I can see United signing him for one reason - to replace Rooney. Otherwise it doesn't make sense. United are current favourites to sign him.

It really is the only reason I'd see us approaching him. I don't see why if he's put out at PSG by playing second fiddle to Ibra and being played out of position, he'd be overly keen to join us and compete with Rooney AND RVP. And we know RVP isn't going anywhere...

Mr_Red · 14-07-2014 12:35PM

Van Gaal excited by United challenge

Louis van Gaal is relishing the opportunity to manage Manchester United after leading the Netherlands to third place at this summer’s FIFA World Cup in Brazil.
Despite guiding his side to a comfortable 3-0 win over the hosts on Saturday, the 62-year-old Dutchman is refusing to go on holiday and will have just two days off at home before officially taking charge of the Reds this week.

Van Gaal will spend time with his players at the Aon Training Complex before jetting off to California to begin the club’s Tour 2014, presented by Aon. While this might appear a tight schedule, the boss insists he can’t wait for the challenge to begin.

“That is no problem for me, I don't need a holiday,” van Gaal said. “It's great to have such an exciting challenge. To work daily with young people is something that I don't need time off to rest for.

“I'm looking forward to it. I've only met two people from the daily management at the club - the chief scout and the chief executive officer. And I've met two of the owners. It's time that I get to know more people at the club.

“I hope the group in Manchester will become like this [Netherlands] one. We have to sing from the same hymn sheet. I hope at Manchester United I can do my best. I will do my best. Whether that's enough for the fans I will wait and see, but I genuinely hope that will be the case.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Jul/Louis-van-Gaal-relishing-chance-to-manage-United.aspx

Vic Vinegar · 14-07-2014 12:36PM

Andy Green, the usually negative financial type guy had this to say

Andy Green ‏@andersred 12m

Debt story pretty much over at @ManUtd now. Annual interest bill c. £20m.

Andy Green ‏@andersred 12m

Debt clearly held back transfer spending up until last year = legacy of weak, ageing squad whilst others strengthened.

Good times ahead!

Lord TSC · 14-07-2014 12:37PM

“I hope the group in Manchester will become like this [Netherlands] one. We have to sing from the same hymn sheet. I hope at Manchester United I can do my best. I will do my best. Whether that's enough for the fans I will wait and see, but I genuinely hope that will be the case.”

Maximus Alexander · 14-07-2014 12:38PM

Mr_Red wrote: »

Van Gaal excited by United challenge

...

“I hope the group in Manchester will become like this [Netherlands] one. We have to sing from the same hymn sheet. I hope at Manchester United I can do my best. I will do my best. Whether that's enough for the fans I will wait and see, but I genuinely hope that will be the case.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Jul/Louis-van-Gaal-relishing-chance-to-manage-United.aspx

Daggers out lads, it's Moyes MkII.

:pac:

Edit: AH FECK OFF TSC! :P

RobertKK · 14-07-2014 12:39PM

TheDoc wrote: »

LVG could be taking a tac from Fergies book, address weak points in squad by singing MOAR STRIKERS!

He can play wide too, would be an expensive replacement for Young :P

TheTownie · 14-07-2014 12:39PM

RobertKK wrote: »

He deserves credit but Ed is the man who holds the ultimate responsibility at United.

Maybe my memory is fooling me but were we not jizzing ourselves over woodward and his commercial deals when he was commercial director so it would make sense that we show some love for Richard Arnold too.

Doesn't really matter whos the biggest influence on these deals anyway, just passing comment.

Doris300 · 14-07-2014 12:39PM

Looks like Vidal is finally going to be confirmed

brinty · 14-07-2014 12:40PM

FutureGuy wrote: »

MUFC are not signing Vidal. It is not imminent.

Keep saying it FutureGuy, you know the drill
same applies for hummels and di Maria

redbaron_99 · 14-07-2014 12:41PM

Doris300 wrote: »

Looks like Vidal is finally going to be confirmed

Eh?

RobertKK · 14-07-2014 12:42PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Maybe my memory is fooling me but were we not jizzing ourselves over woodward and his commercial deals when he was commercial director so it would make sense that we show some love for Richard Arnold too.

Doesn't really matter whos the biggest influence on these deals anyway, just passing comment.

I agree with you, those are very valid points.

homerjay2005 · 14-07-2014 12:43PM

according to Andy Green, the new deals now see our debt levels reduced from 70% of profit, down to 15%.

that is incredibly good news and should once and for all shut the people up who have moaned about the glazers non stop for the last 10 years.

RobertKK wrote: »

Where are the people who wanted Ed Woodward gone?

this deal was being talked about for last 3 years, long before he took over the CE so your point is well, pointless.

i dont think anybody on here ever doubted his ability on the commercial side, its his football respect and experience that is the problem.

jonnyfingers · 14-07-2014 12:46PM

Have to say this picture on the Red Devils subreddit gave me a chuckle.

Regarding the need for an image to welcome LVG to Old Trafford, this was submitted by user SantagetoutClause!

Source

Vic Vinegar · 14-07-2014 12:48PM

Brilliant! ^^^^^

paulbok · 14-07-2014 12:58PM

ShaneU wrote: »

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Club-News/2014/Jul/Manchester-United-plc-reaches-agreement-with-adidas.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

"with adidas for a global technical sponsorship and dual branded licensing deal"

I wonder does the dual branding refer to the casual gear being a separate contract?

Rayne Wooney · 14-07-2014 12:59PM

jonnyfingers wrote: »

Have to say this picture on the Red Devils subreddit gave me a chuckle.

Regarding the need for an image to welcome LVG to Old Trafford, this was submitted by user SantagetoutClause!

Source

http://i.imgur.com/UYfq3aG.jpg

I've just projectile Capri Sun all over the seat in front of me on the bus, I'm lucky it's empty

Mitch Connor · 14-07-2014 12:59PM

paulbok wrote: »

"with adidas for a global technical sponsorship and dual branded licensing deal"

I wonder does the dual branding refer to the casual gear being a separate contract?

I would guess dual branding is Manchester United and adidas.

ceegee · 14-07-2014 01:00PM

paulbok wrote: »

"with adidas for a global technical sponsorship and dual branded licensing deal"

I wonder does the dual branding refer to the casual gear being a separate contract?

Think dual branding just means itll have both united and adidas logos on all the merch

FutureGuy · 14-07-2014 01:03PM

Ride me Ed!!!

homerjay2005 · 14-07-2014 01:07PM

will never come out of course, but i wonder just how much the sacking of Moyes and appointment of Van Gaal strengthened out hand in terms of negotiating the kit deal.

14-07-2014 01:07PM

What is James Ducker's reputation like lads? This is what he's said in a webchat...

James Ducker wrote:

I believe Van Gaal is planning on playing 4-3-3 primarily next season although it wouldn't surprise me if you saw 5-3-2 enlisted on occasion.

United want to keep Evra but his wife, Sandra, is desperate to leave Manchester - she has been for a good while - and the club don't want to stand in his way in that regard given what a good servant he has been. It's a real blow if you ask me - he's a big character with a lot of experience and would have helped Luke Shaw settle in. Part of the reason his decline was accelerated in recent years was because he was being asked to play a ridiculous number of games for a guy in his thirties who is all about bombing forward.

In terms of signings, I believe they want to sign another left back, a centre-half and at least one more midfielder plus maybe a winger-forward type.

I'm told Di Maria is on the radar but that there's been no contact with the player or Real Madrid, which would suggest there's one or two others that the club are pursuing first.

From what I was told last night, I think the Vidal rumours have taken on a life of their own. I don't believe United are actively pursuing him at this stage and although I'm not saying things won't change, it looks like Juventus are really trying to create a market for him, in much the same way as Benfica did with Nicolas Gaitan a couple of years back.

For the sake of the bit in bold, I hope he knows nothing!

markcahill1985 · 14-07-2014 01:16PM

stankratz wrote: »

What is James Ducker's reputation like lads? This is what he's said in a webchat...

For the sake of the bit in bold, I hope he knows nothing!

Unfortunatey hes prob the most reliable Utd journo, the only thing is the club are leaking les and less and he also said he didnt expect herrera rumours to be true.

redbaron_99 · 14-07-2014 01:17PM

stankratz wrote: »

What is James Ducker's reputation like lads? This is what he's said in a webchat...

For the sake of the bit in bold, I hope he knows nothing!

Ducker would be considered credible. As would Ogden.
Neither of them knew about the Herrera deal until it was almost complete. Or Shaw for that matter.

Lord TSC · 14-07-2014 01:19PM

stankratz wrote: »

What is James Ducker's reputation like lads? This is what he's said in a webchat...

For the sake of the bit in bold, I hope he knows nothing!

Would fit in with my own personal opinion of what's happening; it's a story the journalists are using to sell papers that might be true but as likely will see nothing come of them....

homerjay2005 · 14-07-2014 01:19PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Or Shaw for that matter.

????? Shaw was widely reported as done since about 6 weeks before the world cup.

redbaron_99 · 14-07-2014 01:22PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

????? Shaw was widely reported as done since about 6 weeks before the world cup.

!!!!!!! Most knew it would happen, but the timing of it was a surprise.

Mitch Connor · 14-07-2014 01:22PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

????? Shaw was widely reported as done since about 6 weeks before the world cup.

It was being reported during the world cup that the deal had stalled over price, and that we were looking elsewhere. Shaw wasn't seen as a done deal during the WC. The agreement, announcement and medical were all fairly out of the blue in the end.

Our interest in him, and agreement on his contract was well known - but that is different.

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